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Attended a CP party and didn't know it  

post #1 of 35
1/25/08 at 11:43pm
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A friend of mine had to take her vaxed 8-month-old to the ped today for a rash. I watched her two-year-old at her house with my 22-month-old DD along for the fun. The friend came home with the diagnosis of CP for the baby. I know the facts about CP and I was OK with it. (Geez, am I so old that I remember a time when people didn't worry about CP? It was a nuisance more than anything.)

My friend was at the ped's office (Kaiser) for much longer than I expected, and she explained why when she got home: Her ped is young and very new on the job and had never seen CP so he couldn't definitively diagnose it. It took three doctors examining the rash (a classic case which completely covers this little girl from head to toe) to confirm it was CP. Sheesh.

The score so far: Five kids in our playgroup, four completely vaxed, two of the vaxed have had either shingles or CP. Not a good batting average for the vax. ETA - I've been reminded that an 8-month-old hasn't had the varicella shot yet. Sorry for the error.

I came home and told my DH, who has a tendency to be a hypochondriac, and he started getting anxious for our DD. I calmed him down, he did some reading about CP on the Internet, and he's feeling better now. He asked if we had time to get our DD vaxed for CP now that she's been exposed and I told him no, then gave him the stats from our playgroup (above). He thought that was interesting.

Kristin
post #2 of 35
1/26/08 at 2:35am
CP is one vax that I am almost totally against (I have a friend who has a rare immune issue and her daughter is vaxed for it). I wished that someone on here could have their kid come hug mine and I guess I don't really need that as we are watching Levi for CP now. I'm a bit worried about Patrick (our 4 month old) getting it but I guess there' no perfect time.
post #3 of 35
1/26/08 at 7:01am
If your daughter should come down with it, would you consider passing it on? I've been searching for CP for my son for 10 years Not too much longer till he is old enough that it becomes a real concern if he doesn't get it.

I also have a 14 month old baby who I need to get infected (haha that sounds bad).

I'm not far from Sacramento, I'm near Colfax and very willing to travel for CP.

ETA: I'd also be very willing to invite your family up here if you'd like to spend a day in the mountains
post #4 of 35
1/26/08 at 2:22pm
if he was only 8 months old he would not have had the CP vax yet anyway, that isn't given until 12 months, so him beingvaxed has nothing to do with CP.

I can't believe it took 3 dr's to diagnosis it lol, as a daycare worker I can diagnosis CP, hand foot and mouth and a blister all from each other with only one sore lol and have 100% accuracy, maybe I should go into medicine.

hope your 22 gets it lol 3 out of 4 of mine have had it, just waiting until baby is a bit older before finding a pox party
post #5 of 35
1/26/08 at 6:27pm
i was told by my son's ped that the chix pox vax is really just a convience shot so parents wont have to miss work to stay home with a sick child. now that is a scary thought. lets poison our kids for convience. i'm all for a pox party and letting our immunes do what they were meant to do.
post #6 of 35
1/26/08 at 8:25pm
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Originally Posted by polishprinsezz View Post
i was told by my son's ped that the chix pox vax is really just a convience shot so parents wont have to miss work to stay home with a sick child. now that is a scary thought. lets poison our kids for convience. i'm all for a pox party and letting our immunes do what they were meant to do.
That's my understanding as well. Schools don't lose money from having kids miss school for it, and the considerations in the work force, you know

Like you said, yes let's inject poison into our kids' bloodstreams for the convenience of all
post #7 of 35
1/26/08 at 10:49pm
Wow. Is it really O.K for children at such a young age to have chicken pox? I always though grade school age was good.........

My son is 21 months and someone we know's children have it.... whatta ya think? I want to, but I guess I'm a smidge scared too.
post #8 of 35
1/26/08 at 11:18pm
My oldest daughter was 3 when she got it. The next two didn't catch it from her, somehow, but a while later they got it, they were respectively 21 months and 8 months old.

They were fine, I wasn't concerned. Those babies are 20, 18, and 16 years old now. That was when it was still normal to 'just get' CP, and you didn't really have the option of choosing what age your kids were when they did.

I tend to think that my baby is a good age to get it, at 14 months, because he will nurse for comfort. 21 months sounds even better to me, since they can verbally express their discomfort and you can reason with them a little more effectively, and maybe they won't scratch too much.

But it's up to you of course.
post #9 of 35
1/26/08 at 11:55pm
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Originally Posted by majorsky View Post
The score so far: Five kids in our playgroup, four completely vaxed, two of the vaxed have had either shingles or CP. Not a good batting average for the vax.

Kristin
Is there a smiley that shudders?? I had shingles when I was 7 mos prego with dd and it was the worst pain ever. I tear up at the thought of a child having to go through that sort of pain. It was way worse than labor pain and it lasted for 2 weeks straight. I wouldn't wish it on my very worst enemy. Of course I rubbed ds all over my blisters and he still didn't catch the pox.
post #10 of 35
1/27/08 at 2:50am
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Originally Posted by polishprinsezz View Post
i was told by my son's ped that the chix pox vax is really just a convience shot so parents wont have to miss work to stay home with a sick child. now that is a scary thought. lets poison our kids for convience. i'm all for a pox party and letting our immunes do what they were meant to do.
A SAHM that I know did it for that reason, convenience. My ds1 got cp when he was about 3 and my mom watched him while I was at work as she was not working herself at the time. When I told the sahm this, she replied, "must be nice to have someone watch your kid while they're sick". I was like WTF, you're a sahm, you're supposed to watch your kids when she's sick. I would have stayed home with my ds1 but he wasn't allowed back at daycare until he'd scabbed over and the cp was clearing up.
post #11 of 35
1/27/08 at 3:08am
My DD got chicken pox when she was just over a year. It was a mild case. The rash was only on her belly for the most part. She did just fine. My older child was more miserable but she had is ALL over and had strep too. About a year or so ago, I had DD#2 titered for it because a friend of mine is HIV+ and can't risk exposure since she's never had the cp. Even with DD's mild case, she is fully immune.
post #12 of 35
1/27/08 at 3:19am
It gets sold to the public policy people on the "avoid lost productivity line", but to parents with "cp can KILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
post #13 of 35
1/27/08 at 4:36am
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Originally Posted by Arwyn View Post
It gets sold to the public policy people on the "avoid lost productivity line", but to parents with "cp can KILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Exactly.



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post #14 of 35
1/27/08 at 4:42am
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Originally Posted by polishprinsezz View Post
i was told by my son's ped that the chix pox vax is really just a convience shot so parents wont have to miss work to stay home with a sick child. now that is a scary thought. lets poison our kids for convience. i'm all for a pox party and letting our immunes do what they were meant to do.
DOES NOT SURPRISE ME.

Also -- I say this on EVERY chicken pox thread -- it is NOT a big deal to most people. I have had it. I live to tell the tale. It was a PITA but we traveled and had a great time. I got to wear makeup. I got to have attention and warm baths. It itched a lot and it sucked in that respect. But it's not half as bad as Norwalk virus.
post #15 of 35
1/27/08 at 12:56pm
This reminds me of something I got in my e-mail the other day:

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Texas recorded a 41 percent increase in cases of chicken pox from 2005 to 2007, despite an eight-year-old requirement that children be vaccinated before they can enter kindergarten.
... officials said they will study the booster this spring to decide if it too should be required in schools and day care centers.
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vaccinated students who get chicken pox end up staying home the same number of days as they would have without the vaccine.
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“…But what we do know — what we are almost 100 percent certain — is that the solution to that is another dose of the vaccine."
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/5471556.html
post #16 of 35
1/27/08 at 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by amnesiac View Post
This reminds me of something I got in my e-mail the other day:


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/5471556.html
Don't schools loose/make money based on attendance? Therefore it's more than a convenience, it's a money maker for schools.
post #17 of 35
1/27/08 at 1:53pm
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Originally Posted by StayAtHomeMama21 View Post
Wow. Is it really O.K for children at such a young age to have chicken pox? I always though grade school age was good.........

My son is 21 months and someone we know's children have it.... whatta ya think? I want to, but I guess I'm a smidge scared too.
I was about 4, and my next younger sister is just over two years younger, when we both got it (from the neighbors, who were 3yo and 18 months). None of us even have any scars left (we kind of "outgrew" the few we had). I would be comfortable with my child catching it between 12 and 24 months. I would prefer they be a little bit older (4 to 6 yo), but with all the vaxxing going on, I would worry that it would be my last chance to catch wild CP.
post #18 of 35
1/27/08 at 1:57pm
Well, they are *almost* 100% certain, so let's inject the kids!
post #19 of 35
1/27/08 at 1:57pm
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Originally Posted by swellmomma View Post
if he was only 8 months old he would not have had the CP vax yet anyway, that isn't given until 12 months, so him beingvaxed has nothing to do with CP.
Ah yes, you're right! I apologize for getting the schedule wrong. I was thinking she'd had the shot by now. Oops.

Kristin
post #20 of 35
1/27/08 at 1:59pm
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Originally Posted by Shelsi View Post
Is there a smiley that shudders?? I had shingles when I was 7 mos prego with dd and it was the worst pain ever. I tear up at the thought of a child having to go through that sort of pain. It was way worse than labor pain and it lasted for 2 weeks straight. I wouldn't wish it on my very worst enemy. Of course I rubbed ds all over my blisters and he still didn't catch the pox.
I've read that shingles in children in not a big deal -- but as you know, it's awful in adults. The boy who had it had very few symptoms and a small rash that needed a few days to crust over.

Kristin
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