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post #41 of 752
Tigermiep...bummer!!!!

It's funny...some people have no trouble at all with OPK's and swear by them...so people...not so much. I was one of those people. It was just too damn stressful for me...and holding my pee for 4 hours!!! Yeah...right. That said...others don't like the monitor either. What works for one might not work for the other. But, if you wanna give it a try...I use the Clearblue Fertility Monitor. Now...you can probably get a good deal on ebay...but you won't get it in time to use this month if you don't get it now. You need to "initiate" the monitor within the first 5 days of your cycle. Since you feel like AF is right around the corner...a drugstore might be a better bet if you wanna use it right away. For me...the monitor is great. I have a window of time to press the button every morning...then I can forget about it the rest of the day. It tells me when to test...and tells me when my LH surge is close. Now, if you do buy one on ebay...I'm not too sure about buying a used one. The monitor tracks your cycle...and remembers it so it gets used to you and when to ask you to start POAS. So, if someone else has used the monitor before you...it could be real screwy the first month or so. So...if you can...spring for a new one just in case. Anyway...they're gonna set you back a bit though. I think I paid...maybe $180 for mine. Then the test sticks...about a 3 month supply...I wanna say $40. For me...it's peace of mind and low maintenance. Anyway...hope this helps and you find what you're looking for. I know there are other monitors that I believe work by saliva...I just have a POAS obsession...so this one works for me. Again...just my 2cents.
post #42 of 752
tiger- So sorry.

Another BFN for me today too (11DPO). My temp's still up though, and I had some minor cramping today, which I don't usually get in the days before AF. Cervix is still sititng really high, so who knows. :
post #43 of 752
Quasar...hang in there...your temp still looks really good!! And your cervix is still high...no reason to give up hope yet.
post #44 of 752
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Originally Posted by quasar View Post
Another BFN for me today too (11DPO). My temp's still up though, and I had some minor cramping today, which I don't usually get in the days before AF. Cervix is still sititng really high, so who knows. :
Hey quasar -- your chart looks like you had an implantation dip on day 9, which, if it is true, means that you should probably have a bfp on day 14. I definitely wouldn't be discouraged until then.

Good luck!
post #45 of 752
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Originally Posted by JenInMpls View Post
I think that knitting or other forms of handwork that create something for the baby is because you can work all of your energy, thoughts and hopes into the piece. Plus it gives you something to do! And with me it almost forces me into a meditative state because I have to sit still and be quiet while do it.
I totally agree. Knitting may be the closest thing I do to meditation. I really struggle to quiet my mind in general, but I am really able to focus on knitting and I really do feel like I have a lot invested in this little sweater. I am also surprised how quickly I have been able to pick it up. I am really not very good with my hands (query if there is a worse fate for a lesbian? ), but I find I am pretty good at it. It also keep s me from picking at my nails - yet another sign of my neuroses!

Bummer, Tiger. I hope you find a solution that works for you. This is definitely a process that makes it clear how unique we each are and that what works for some may not work for other. I have had pretty good luck with the opks, but I do think I've gotten a late positive at least once (and it was really frustrating).
post #46 of 752
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Originally Posted by Coco99 View Post
Hey all !

I have a question.... First, my situation... I am 60 hours past IUI, 3DPO (i think... when do you start counting?) and my ovulation was triggered by HCG shot 36 hours before IUI.

This morning I had cramps on my right side, the side from which the eeg came from... it was pretty intense and felt like bad ovulation cramps...

Has anyone had that before ? Of course I'm worried that it means it didnt work... or that something is wrong...



Oh and to the one who asked... we are also testing on Valentines day (which is also our 9th anniversary of meeting...). We were told to test 15 days after IUI.

Coco

PS: Thanks Frog for starting the thread !!
We are buddies! Our test date is Valentine's as well, and I am 3 DPO. Good luck!!!
post #47 of 752
OPK question for yall:

Does your OPK get progressively darker as you get closer to your surge or is there no noticeable change?
post #48 of 752
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Originally Posted by simplelah View Post
Does your OPK get progressively darker as you get closer to your surge or is there no noticeable change?
Mine get darker as I get closer to my surge.
post #49 of 752
LaH: mine do.

miep: sorry honey an ob told me that CM corresponds directly to estrogen. Perhaps you need to try something that supports your estrogen production? I have to do that too or I have ridiculously long cycles because it takes me 4-8 weeks to ovulate (like this last cycle where I ovulated on day 35). Red Clover Blossom is a good one, it is estrogenic. There is also a very nourishing Ayurvedic herb called Shatavari (Sha-TA-va-rie) that my herbalist just tracked down for me. It's estrogenic as well and good for women trying to conceive, pregnant and lactating. I came across it looking at milk supply herbs (it's a galactagogue as well). What I think sounds like the best aspect of shatavari is how you take it: you warm it in a cast iron pan with ghee, sucanat, saffron and cardamom for 10 minutes and then you drink 1 Tbsp of that mixture with warm milk 3x a day. all I would need to be complete after that is a nice nap with a purring cat. Anyway if you want to try the red clover blossom, let me know, I have a pound of them which when you consider dried flowers is an awful lot and you're welcome to share.

Do also know that even if you buy a fertility monitor new, they have a very high resale value on eBay. I bought mine for about $140 and sold it on eBay for $120.

love from the gimp (sigh)
post #50 of 752
MDC is driving me nuts the last few days. Right when I need it, I can barely keep a connection. :

I'm sorry Tiger...is it possible that you aren't actually ovulating? I know that in very few cases, women menstruate without ovulating.

3po here and I'm in trouble. My neck is out badly and creating a shocking headache. I went to the osteopath on friday who made it worse but I think she had to do that before it can get better. I'm going back tomorrow for more treatment. I've also developed this horrific rash on my neck and face that looks like measles but isn't. The pharmacist seems to think I'll be ok but to get to a Dr if it gets worse...eek - it's sooooooo itchy.

And my uterus is crampy.

The 2ww sucks.

Meanwhile, no, we haven't bought any baby stuff but as I was discussing with BurtsGirl a couple of weeks ago, there are some baby Converse that I am seriously coveting. (I'd love to post a link but I cannot find them anywhere online!) We've got xmas credit card debt to clear before we start buying anything though...but I sure would love to go crazy.
post #51 of 752
will catch up tomorrow after we get back from a little snowy vacation.

But, just wanted to request, Frog, that we get moved to waiting to O. Finally.

thanks and be well all,
megin
post #52 of 752
We have purchased a few things. When we were in the caribbean last spring we found this super cute outfit, I had never seen one like it here so I had to have it. The brand is Zatano, they have super cute patterns of fabric. I bought a bunch of their items on ebay for really cheap, their new too! We also decided to do the baby's room kind of more modern, so we bought one of those 16 cubbies book cases from Ikea and have baskets to go in the cubbies.

Once we started to try, I quit buying things and I quit reading all of the parenting books. I think I felt like it might jinx it. Also, after 3 bfn's I was a little discouraged. I am also learning to knit, so I have been looking at yarns to make a blankie. totally keeps me sane.
post #53 of 752
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Originally Posted by tigermiep@mac.com View Post
please, why have I had absolutely no CM for the last 3 months? at all? as in, there is no spinnbarkeit/eggwhite quality at all.
Tiger I never got any egg white CM at all, and I got pregnant fine. In fact, I never had any idea what anybody was talking about with egg white CM. My CM was always very watery and stayed that way from the end of my period until several days past ovulation. As in it was useless in anticipating ovulation.

I also never got a single positive OPK. The only thing that worked for me was temperature charting which, thank god, was text book.
post #54 of 752
So I am 7DPO and felling like I have absolutely no symptoms. But, this morning, my CM smells very sweet. Has anyone heard of that being a sign or am I searching for a sign?
post #55 of 752
Sigh, please move me to waiting to O.

I resigned myself to the idea that it wasn't going to be this month a few days ago, but last night, for some reason, I convinced myself that my nipples looked different. I laid awake last night with the tug-of-war: Maybe I could be, but I know I'm not, but it would be cool if I was, ok but don't be disappointed if you're not, etc. So much so that I actually used the remaining digital HPT I had left, which I swore I would only use to confirm a cheapie test. I didn't get a BFN because the test didn't work - it blinked for a while and then was just blank. About an hour later I bled. Crap. This might be where charting would be helpful. I would have seen the temp drop by now and wouldn't have played head games with myself.

Oh, and today is a day or two early, which means we may have inseminated too late. And we've now completely exhausted our supply of iui catheters. We got ten when we started with iuis and never expected to get through all of them. Feh. I'm going to go take a shower so DP won't see me cry (not that she's not great and supportive and all that, I just want to be alone).
post #56 of 752
: mhiccup
post #57 of 752
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Sigh, please move me to waiting to O.
Aw, mhiccup. We are pretty convinced we are out and will be joining you with our tears soon. 3rd BFN in a row this morning. Temps were kinda wonky but the one taken at our usual time was still OK.


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And we've now completely exhausted our supply of iui catheters. We got ten when we started with iuis and never expected to get through all of them. Feh.
Hey, I might be able to hook you up with some IUI catheters. Are you using tom cat catheters? And if so, what do you pay for them? I am sure I can get you some free ones.
post #58 of 752

Catching up

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Originally Posted by 2happymamas View Post
My question: If you had an US before the IUI, how many eggs are too many?
What is your limit?
Three eggs is the limit any more than that I wouldn't be interested in inseming that month. I'm on a very LOW dose of femera which is like clomid without as many side efects and the first cycle I had two eggs, next two cycles including this one only one. The nurse said our bodies get use to the meds so she was reccomending we bump up the dosage if this try doesn't work. She also said the more eggs the greater chance of pregnancy and there's only a 10-15% chance of multiplies according to my RE.

Also my trigger is the one in the upper butt. It doesn't hurt at all. Our doc gave us a super small needle and I barely feel it. Sometimes it gets a little sore afterward but not even as bad as a flu shot. Also, the two vials are one dose. One is the meds, the other is just water. Mix, and stick.

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Originally Posted by mhiccup View Post
I totally agree. Knitting may be the closest thing I do to meditation.
We need to start a Queer knitting circle! I haven't knitted anything for the baby yet but I have a lot of ideas. When I finally get knocked up I'm not going to know which to start on first. I also agree it's extremely meditative!

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Originally Posted by simplelah View Post
Does your OPK get progressively darker as you get closer to your surge or is there no noticeable change?
Yes mine does also

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Originally Posted by travelgirlz View Post
Once we started to try, I quit buying things and I quit reading all of the parenting books. I think I felt like it might jinx it. Also, after 3 bfn's I was a little discouraged.
This was me also after 2-3 BFN cycles but I finaly went out and got a couple of things. It really lifted my spirits after 5 BFNs.

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Originally Posted by mhiccup View Post
Sigh, please move me to waiting to O.

I resigned myself to the idea that it wasn't going to be this month a few days ago, but last night, for some reason, I convinced myself that my nipples looked different. I laid awake last night with the tug-of-war: Maybe I could be, but I know I'm not, but it would be cool if I was, ok but don't be disappointed if you're not, etc.
Mhiccup, I'm so sorry AF came. I also wanted to let you know I've been awake in the wee hours with thoughts just like this on more than one cycle.

As for us: We're doing good. My temp rose yesterday right on time so our timing was great. We are now 2 DPO. I'm going to try to hold out till V-day to test but I so might cave. Hope everyone is hanging tight in the 2WW and so sorry for the BFN's. :
post #59 of 752
mhiccup sorry you're sad... hope you had a good cry.
post #60 of 752
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Originally Posted by mhiccup View Post
Sigh, please move me to waiting to O.
Kia ora mhiccup - much aroha to you. I can't believe how tearful I have been during this whole process, way more than I ever expected. Immediately after the first time I inseminated (and I hear this is quite common) I had the hugest crying jag, panicking and desperate about maybe being pregnant, maybe not being pregnant...After each BFN I get sad in a way I've never experienced before. And like you, my DP is very supportive, but it's still hard...

Not sure how to do this Quote thing so well, but JenM1021, you said:

It's funny...some people have no trouble at all with OPK's and swear by them...so people...not so much. I was one of those people. It was just too damn stressful for me...and holding my pee for 4 hours!!! Yeah...right...

I started inseminating for Cycle 3 yesterday, even though my OPK (digital) said negative, because my cervix was open and actually oozing FM, just like the books say. It's the first cycle I've done cervical observation - using a speculum - and I couldn't believe the change in my cervix in 12 hours, from a closed os and no mucous to totally open and EWFM emerging from the opening. Despite OPK reading (and it's negative again this morning) I did one insemination last night with KD and am about to do a second one this morning when my DP arrives with the Swim Team...! It's a 35 minute drive from where he lives, but I just decided that this cycle I wanted to try doing it at home rather than at his place, just so I'd be more relaxed.

The book I'm reading mostly is 'The Essential Guide To Lesbian Pregnancy' and it's because of that book that I decided to leap in and procure a speculum. I know it's not for everyone, but it's made me realise, this time, that I've probably been waiting too long in previous cycles...? Today is only Day 10, and I usually wait till Day 12 or 13 because that's when the OPK kicks in with its first positive. Yesterday was Day 9 - I would never have considered inseminating so early, but looking at my cervix, it's undeniable that I'm approaching, if not in, peak fertility time...

Anyway, just an update. My darling's on her way with the jar, so I'd better go and get my stack of pillows ready! Aroha to all, and btw, all the best JenM1021 with your cycle 3, and thanks so much (frog?) for putting me on the 'Waiting to O' list!

Mauri ora tatou katoa.
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