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post #161 of 717
I'm fascinated by this night weaning idea. How is it done?
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they were there--there was 12 fire trucks there for 6 hours!! every firehouse in detroit was used. the alarms didn't go off so the manager went door to door to make sure everyone got out! it was a level 5 fire which i guess is one of the worst!
That is horrible! I agree with doudat about the fear of fire thing...I will definitely keep an eye out for some cool postcards!

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so i have no money but i want to ask about thirsties covers and fitteds? mostly the covers, tell me about them if anyone has tried them, i love my nikkys but they are to small and i need a few new ones and they are pretty colors!
I have just switched to cloth diapers and these were the dipes I went with. I do like them -- we haven't had any leaks, but I think this is a size bigger than what we needed. I was trying to hold out for the Mediums so that I wouldn't have to size up for a while, but they just seem so big on him (they are supposed to fit up to 30 lb, so I guess I should have realized - He's just got such a small bum and waist!). I am thinking about getting some small Kushies or something similar that won't break me financially to give us a slightly trimmer fit until he grows into them (even the prefolds I got are huge!). I do love the colors, too! I don't know if I helped very much, but they are cute and they haven't leaked on us, the fit will come with time.

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I'm fascinated by this night weaning idea. How is it done?
I have wondered about how you go about this...I haven't really thought about it for us yet, because I just can't imagine ds being kosher with it at all! Nursing is the single, solitary thing that I can get him to sleep with (and that only works about half the time for me -- we have spent a lot of time at my mom's lately )
post #163 of 717
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Ultimate - I have three Thirsties diapers and they do work well. They're easy to put on a squirmy babe. Don't have any of their covers yet, I'm on buying hiatus.
post #164 of 717
Hey guys, guess why I'm pumping???
You got it! Evangeline is still sleeping!!! : : :
She's either slept through until 12:30 or 2:30 I can't remember which, but no matter, at the least that's 6 hours- and that meant 5 hours solid sleep for me!: (imagine if it was from 12:30, though??)

I'm curious to hear what others will say about the nightweaning. I almost don't want to reply until I hear others.

But for us it meant having dh get up to see if he could soothe her, eventually moving her out of our room, rocking her first if she wakes in the night, only nursing one side. It slowly stetches out the times between feedings, and she slowly gets used to sleeping longer. :dunno:

However, she's definately sleeping better down in her new room. It's cooler, darker in the morning, quieter. I'm not saying moving them out for everyone, but for us, upstairs in our room wasn't working anymore. It's the hottest and dryest and lightest (big sliding door) and obviously we have to get up in the morning! Our whole upstairs is a loft so there was no where else to put her up here. (our house is small-30x30)

Anyway- off to party!
A
post #165 of 717
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Ultimateserj- I was totally going to "tattle" on you for using your stroller today but I suppose I was "guilty of the same crime"

It's so nice and warm here today!!!!

Hey shhhhh at least tell them its pretty and pink!! lol we where JUST eating and the highchairs at the mall are gross so i just popped her in my stroller so i could eat... of course she screamed and sat on my lap the whole time anyway!!

and hey next time you need to come earlier so you can hang out with us!
post #166 of 717
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Originally Posted by krismarie View Post
my sister's apartment building (beautiful old building in detroit with 80+ apartments) just burned for the past 6 hours. the roof and 4th floor are gone. she was on the 2nd floor but has no idea if she can ever even get back in. she just moved there in dec and brought with her most of her stuff including many of her things from her travels (she has spent many months in the middleeast, germany, egypt)... soo sad. she doesn't even have her glasses or computer. many of the people living there are grad students at wayne state. just keep her and all of the other families/students/people in your thoughts.

they think it was started by an evicted tenant who died in the fire.
I saw the pics of the fire on the news. I couldn't believe it.
post #167 of 717
Luckily for me, nightweaning doesn't seem like it has to be a consideration. Ion has gone long sleeping stretches since he was teeny provided the breast is available. I know it's the opposite for many, but if it's there it seems he feels okay and doesn't need to. If I put a top on in bed or try to get up he has an immediate 'nursing emergency' panic. New teeth and sickness are exceptions but lately he's been sleeping through 10pm-5am. At 5 his dad gets up to go to work and we change his diaper if he's wet. He nurses on and off each side and we snuggle until 8 or even 10 It's awesome that we've gone from having a baby who at first did not sleep at all to having a baby who sleeps and sleeps well.
post #168 of 717
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lilmomma-I have to admit that I am night-weaning too...due to PPD. I know we aren't supposed to talk about that kind of thing around here. But in some cases, it really is better for the baby! An unhealthy mama can lead to an unhappy babe! My mom brought that to my attention w Andy at around this age. I was SO adamant about co-sleeping, but was so sleep-deprived. Another thing someone suggested was getting snatches of sleep whenever possible. I sleep in till DH leaves for school-he gets up w kids at 6. It is SO very hard!!! I know you will find what works best for you! I think night-weaning w the support of DH is pretty easy. Everyone tells me that he is old enought to go through the night w/o feeding, so DH doesn't do a bottle. Noah wouldn't drink it anyway!



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Why not??????
post #169 of 717
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Luckily for me, nightweaning doesn't seem like it has to be a consideration. Ion has gone long sleeping stretches since he was teeny provided the breast is available. I know it's the opposite for many, but if it's there it seems he feels okay and doesn't need to. If I put a top on in bed or try to get up he has an immediate 'nursing emergency' panic. New teeth and sickness are exceptions but lately he's been sleeping through 10pm-5am. At 5 his dad gets up to go to work and we change his diaper if he's wet. He nurses on and off each side and we snuggle until 8 or even 10 It's awesome that we've gone from having a baby who at first did not sleep at all to having a baby who sleeps and sleeps well.
I think that's fantastic- I remembered you mentioning that the other day and was jealous and incredulous that he slept so long! I think it's awesome that it worked out that way- that he'll actually sleep if your topless! It's so great that you found something that works really, really well for you- it's encouraging!
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post #170 of 717
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Originally Posted by MonTana Mama View Post

lilmomma-I have to admit that I am night-weaning too...due to PPD. I know we aren't supposed to talk about that kind of thing around here. But in some cases, it really is better for the baby! An unhealthy mama can lead to an unhappy babe! My mom brought that to my attention w Andy at around this age. I was SO adamant about co-sleeping, but was so sleep-deprived. Another thing someone suggested was getting snatches of sleep whenever possible. I sleep in till DH leaves for school-he gets up w kids at 6. It is SO very hard!!! I know you will find what works best for you! I think night-weaning w the support of DH is pretty easy. Everyone tells me that he is old enought to go through the night w/o feeding, so DH doesn't do a bottle. Noah wouldn't drink it anyway!



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Why not??????
Well, aside from the taboos on MDC, I think that sleep is a pretty big issue in ALL parenting circles, and it's pretty charged, all around. Who's getting it, who's not, why they are or aren't, what's good and bad about it....gee, it sounds like sex! : Sometimes we feel like we're treading in dangerous waters if we even admit that we don't follow the hard-core AP Bible, but like you're post insinuates- there's absolutely no reason to. MDC is a warm and welcoming place, that doesn't have rules for admittance. We shouldn't have to apologize for finding what works for us- as long as it doesn't break the AP ten commandments (UA code) And even then- I think there's a lot of room on this board for 'mainstreamers'.
Um, I think I need another coffee. I'm babbling nonsense.

It's a beautiful sunny day here! Cold!
post #171 of 717
Oh, I also think that there's huge difference between nightweaning a 10 month old and nightweaning a 2 week old. And it also depends on what you call 'night'. I think expecting a little one to go 12 hours is a bit much but 5-7 is perfectly reasonable.
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Well, aside from the taboos on MDC, I think that sleep is a pretty big issue in ALL parenting circles, and it's pretty charged, all around. Who's getting it, who's not, why they are or aren't, what's good and bad about it....gee, it sounds like sex! : Sometimes we feel like we're treading in dangerous waters if we even admit that we don't follow the hard-core AP Bible, but like you're post insinuates- there's absolutely no reason to. MDC is a warm and welcoming place, that doesn't have rules for admittance. We shouldn't have to apologize for finding what works for us- as long as it doesn't break the AP ten commandments (UA code) And even then- I think there's a lot of room on this board for 'mainstreamers'.
Um, I think I need another coffee. I'm babbling nonsense.

It's a beautiful sunny day here! Cold!
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Oh, I also think that there's huge difference between nightweaning a 10 month old and nightweaning a 2 week old. And it also depends on what you call 'night'. I think expecting a little one to go 12 hours is a bit much but 5-7 is perfectly reasonable.
i totally agree with you both-- I think doing what is best for the mama's health (physical, mental, etc) is so important-- i wish mama's didn't feel like they had to be defensive or apologetic...especially mamas like you (montana mom) who made the choice with love and concern for your babe! i would like to think of this place as somewhere where mamas can go with all troubles/concern/questions without feeling bad!
it's not too beautiful here--my car was snowed in! (but i really like feeling cozy inside)
post #173 of 717
[QUOTE=Queen of my Castle;10486352]
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Originally Posted by mclisa View Post

Well, aside from the taboos on MDC, I think that sleep is a pretty big issue in ALL parenting circles, and it's pretty charged, all around. Who's getting it, who's not, why they are or aren't, what's good and bad about it....gee, it sounds like sex! : Sometimes we feel like we're treading in dangerous waters if we even admit that we don't follow the hard-core AP Bible, but like you're post insinuates- there's absolutely no reason to. MDC is a warm and welcoming place, that doesn't have rules for admittance. We shouldn't have to apologize for finding what works for us- as long as it doesn't break the AP ten commandments (UA code) And even then- I think there's a lot of room on this board for 'mainstreamers'.
Um, I think I need another coffee. I'm babbling nonsense.

It's a beautiful sunny day here! Cold!
I'm mainstream.


I'm also excepting of others point of views and am open to hearing another perspective.


post #174 of 717
So erm we decided last night, after I posted that we're going to start night weaning this weekend. Not full night, but we are going to try to cut out that 2am feeding for now. We are planning to wait till Friday night though since then DH doesn't have to get to work in the morning. We are going to have DH comfort him and offer him a sippy with water and see how it goes. If it doesn't work out we can deal, but I would really like to get down to one feeding between midnight and 7am, after that I can deal with 2 or 3 feedings between 7am and 11am when we get up for the day (though we are also working on getting up a bit earlier at 10am).


That being said, last night was a bad night. DS was super clingy. I think part of it was that the dog got him up at 7am and even though we had two nice long 2 hour plus naps he was still overtired. When we tried to go to bed at 9pm (really early) the dog barked again waking him up so he didn't want to go back down. We finally got him down at 1am, sigh. Hopefully tonight will be better since he slept in till noon.

He is getting much better on taking steps without support, I am just waiting for him to make the leap to full out walking, he's still only taking a step or two before falling on his butt and crawling where he wants to go.
post #175 of 717
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Oh, I also think that there's huge difference between nightweaning a 10 month old and nightweaning a 2 week old. And it also depends on what you call 'night'. I think expecting a little one to go 12 hours is a bit much but 5-7 is perfectly reasonable.
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I'm sure most of you have read this, but just in case here is Dr. Jay Gordon's Changing the Sleep Pattern in the family Bed. I used a really modified version of his "method" to nightwean Finn when I was pregnant. I mean it took a couple of months and I only picked 5 hours instead of 7 so it was all very gentle and pretty easy. I'm hoping it goes as well with Arlo, although he'll be much younger so we'll see. I'm still going to wait a few weeks and until all these teeth come in and see where we're at, but if it's still like this by the time I have to go back to work, I don't feel like I have any other option.
post #176 of 717
Thanks for the link. I'm going to show it to dh because he's getting a bit antsy about Seamus sleeping with us. He hasn't suggested moving him out yet (mostly because there's nowhere for the baby to go), but I can see that coming this summer when we move to Massachusetts.

I think if I got five hours of solid sleep I'd be a happier mama, too. I don't think we'll attempt anything until after we move, though.
post #177 of 717
I hope all of the babies sleep a bit better tonight!

Good night!
post #178 of 717
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I'm sure most of you have read this, but just in case here is Dr. Jay Gordon's Changing the Sleep Pattern in the family Bed. I used a really modified version of his "method" to nightwean Finn when I was pregnant. I mean it took a couple of months and I only picked 5 hours instead of 7 so it was all very gentle and pretty easy. I'm hoping it goes as well with Arlo, although he'll be much younger so we'll see. I'm still going to wait a few weeks and until all these teeth come in and see where we're at, but if it's still like this by the time I have to go back to work, I don't feel like I have any other option.
Thanks for the link, of all the various methods of helping babies sleep longer I feel most comfortable with this...our doctor recommended we try this when Johnny was like 6mos and we didn't...I think it might work now though, Johnny is nursing plenty during the day so I'm not too worried about cutting out night feedings. So DH and I talked and we are going to try this tonight.....hopefully I don't get too lazy
post #179 of 717
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Thanks for the link, of all the various methods of helping babies sleep longer I feel most comfortable with this...our doctor recommended we try this when Johnny was like 6mos and we didn't...I think it might work now though, Johnny is nursing plenty during the day so I'm not too worried about cutting out night feedings. So DH and I talked and we are going to try this tonight.....hopefully I don't get too lazy
Good luck! Fwiw, I decided not to get too hung up on being really strict about it (which is why it took a little longer) so if he was really upset or I was really tired/lazy, I nursed him and I didn't find it set us back too badly.
My sleep trick for tonight was to feed Arlo a bowl of oatmeal and applesauce: (that's right, I spoon fed him!) and then nurse him to sleep. Here's hoping he has 4 or 5 hours worth of a full belly And with that, I'm off to bed...

A
post #180 of 717
Thanks for the link- I've never read that before.
Thanks also for understanding what I was saying everyone!
Also- mclisa- I saw this somewhere else on this board and it describes me, 'to crunchy people, I'm mainstream, to mainstream people, I'm crunchy'!

Interested over these next few months how everyone's night journeys go- so far so good over here!
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