Restoration device recommendations?  

i have been using the cat for about 3 years and it is impossible to use without tape.the silicone cone will not hold me.so i use it without the cone and use bandage tape in place of the cone.

it only took about 6 months of use before i moved up to the longer extension rod.and now when i use it i have also added a weight to the end where the ring is.i have the whole pusher pushed forward and a pretty heavy weight attached.when i first started i would wear it about 4 hrs. a day.now i wear it about 4 hrs. once a week with a break in between.

as far as results go i am only about a third of the way finished and actually seem to have hit a plateu.

also the shaft skin is much rougher than i would like it to be.stretchmarks and wrinkles are something i didn't expect and these also appear in the inner forekin area.

i have talked to other people about this and was told that taking vitamins might help this problem and that having my frenulum also has made these problems worse because the frenulum is much less stretchable.


if i were to reccomend a device i would say the tlc tugger is probably the way to go although i have not used it the cone system seems like it would work better and i plan on getting the new tlcx model and am hoping it will allow me to finish up.

the other thing i didn't realize is that the new skin doesn't stay over the head of the penis the way it should.

it doesn't even take me 5 minutes to put the device on even with the weight and tape.

even though everyone says restoration causes no pain this has not been true for me.the pusher part of the cat rubbing on the glans becomes pretty painful after awhile and removing the tape is not painless.


for me restoration has been overall worthwhile but it is far from perfect and if i can ever get to the point i would like to be at i think that some kind cosmetic treatment to soften and lessen the roughness if this is possible is definitely needed.and also replacing the frenar band/ridged band/preputial ring has to be done if you want the new skin to stay in place.so i am looking at more surgery.

the reason i started restoring was not sexual.i did it to regain the glans coverage for comfort and to even up my uneven cut.i do have the gliding action back although this only covers about 1/3 of my glans and would like it to cover 100%.as far as reversing keratinization it also has not happened.

my total restoration will take at least 10 years at the rate i am going.

this doesn't sound too good . I also didn't know the new foreskin doesn't stay where it should . I now feel like I should stop encouraging dh to try to restore .

You or he may wish to visit here:

http://frcchat.org/phpBB2/index.php

lots of information and good advice and support.

Regards

one more thing that i should mention is the fact that once you start restoring all of the penile skin gets pulled forward when this happens part of the scrotum gets pulled forward too.when you have sex or masturbate the scrotal skin at the bottom of the penis gets in the way.i know that this can be fixed with more surgery also and i also know that the problems i have had probably do not happen to 90% of men that restore but people shopuld be made aware before they start restoring that one or all of these and probably some that didn't happen to me can occur.

if you look at how the foreskin restoration surgery is done it has too many problems also.the main problem would be the scarring on the penis and scrotum and the scrotal skin on the penis shaft would also be rougher than it should be.

the best thing to do is just to quit circumcising.the next best would be a very expensive foreskin transplant.

Device Chart

http://www.x-mail.net/restore/compare.htm

This is the PREMIUM comparison chart.

I had a HARD TIME getting the TLC Tugger to stay on without tape.

I like the CAT II.

But the T-Tapes stay on the best. Just the inconvenience of having tape. It's not as spontaneous.

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D

This information does not agree with the vast majority of men who have or are restoring.

1) scrotol skin does not get pulled up by restoration. In fact, the scrotum that is mis-positioned as a result of being circumsized gets largely, if not completely corrected. While it is possible that a small percentage of men may choose to undertake surgery for this condition, there is no evidence that restoration would not have done the job as well or better.

2) Surgery is the worst method for restoring your foreskin. Tugging is the best, easiest and only one that results in regaining function.

Note: Restoration is not simply stretching the skin. Instead, it is using tension to create conditions in the foreskin (which is more than skin by the way) that induce cell division. The cell division creates (or adds) new cells. These new cells result in more skin. The newly added skin makes the foreskin loinger.

It is simply as that. The problem is it is tedious, and takes a long time. But it is well worth it, based upoin my experience.

Regards

maybe i will just stick with the cat if it is better.

i didn't have the scrotal skin pulled up before.it happened because of the restoration.like i said though it probably doesn't happen to 90% of men.it is rare but i did a search and it is called scrotal migration and does happen sometimes during restoration.

http://restoringmen.net/page6.htm#NoStick


THE "HANKY TRICK": This topic has been discussed on the mailing list, but its still a little hard to describe. Some people take a handkerchief, and fold it on the diagonal and roll it into a strip about an inch or so wide. They tie a loose overhand knot in it, slip it over their penis, and push it down to the base. Now when they tape, they clip their elastic strap onto the T-Tape, wrap the elastic around their waist, and clip the free end to the two ends of the hanky. Some people apparently route the tails between their legs (in their butt-crack) and others just pull it to one side with the elastic. The basic idea is that the elastic is always attached to two things that will not move (like the waist band on your boxer shorts can). Some guys also said they believe this may prevent SCROTAL MIGRATION (stretching of the scrotal skin at the same time the penis skin is being stretched). I haven't tried this "hanky trick" because I have had no problem just clipping the strap to my boxers. Also, by wearing boxers, your penis is fed out through the fly and lies against the cloth of the boxers rather than your skin -- this reduces sweating, which will cause premature tape failure. If you do use the hanky trick, you may wish to slip a paper towel between your penis and abdomen to reduce tape-adhesion moisture problems from sweating.

as far as surgery goes i think that if you made the cut at the original circumcision cut and had a microsurgeon transplant a new foreskin from a donor it would probably turn out good and return function.but i do not know if this has been tried yet.but with non-vital transplants now being done and the new technolgy that prevents rejection it is probably only a matter of time.


http://biomed.brown.edu/Courses/BI10...n/default.html



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...pid=sec-health Illustration http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...s/100112_1.htm

Greg, does restored foreskin usually stays in place (covering glans)?

as a restoring father myself, i have to agree with gregb, which is to say i disagree with much of what tlh said. Which includes the skin staying forward. My skin stayed forward after the first year and i was only half covered. I noticed a sensation ("sensitivity") change after just a few months. I currently have full covereage with overhang and my foreskin stays forward day and night, actually i have to retract to pee if i don't want to make a mess when standing up. I will try to find my post about my story of my personal journey with restoration and how its been on of the most worthwhile challenges ive ever undertaken. finally, from my experience as a restorer and as a resident of a number of restoring messege boards since 1998, i would have to say much of tlh's experience is atypical of most restorers.

A question for those who are restoring.

I was wondering if during your restoring process have you mentioned it or pointed it out to or has your doctor noticed? If so what was said? I am just wondering because, I think it goes without saying, that RIC doesn't end until we can get medical professionals, such as doctors, to acknowledge the problem. See men restore might just give them pause if they are involved in circumcision themselves. So I was just wondering how that conversation went.

The last time i went to a doctor was in 2003 for an injury on the job, and the last time a doctor/medical professional saw my penis must have been when i was about 6. I cut my euvula (sp) on a piece of plastic pipe from a toy tent. (don't ask me why or how i did it, i was 6) the doctor was examining me and for reasons to this day i dont understand, he examined my genitals? which are nowhere near where i was injured (my throat). so im not much use in answering your question but i thought the story was somehow relevant.

Some one mentioned stretch marks resulting as apart of the process. Is that because too much tension was applied when the skin wasn't ready for it?

Maybe try Evening Primrose Oil. Ingest it orally and apply it topically. It works well for scar tissue. And helps the skin stay supple. Its expensive as hell but well worth it in my case. I used it on my perineum while pregnant with Liam.

Has anyone ever tried this?

I didn't see it on the comparison chart. I found that chart most interesting.

The Tug Ahoy's site was a little annoying since it seemed to support the "circ to cut chances of AIDS" propaganda.

But it goes on to say that it doesn't effect restored men.

Its as if they're banking on circ'd men to support their profits. I have reasons to suspect they, the manufacture, isn't exactly against RIC.

But an article by Doctors Opposing Circumcision made a fair statement refuting the study. You have to dig for it.

As Axeius said, the regrown foreskin will stay in place. That is, if you grow enough. I am partially restored and it stays in place most of the time for me, but not always. It is amazing how much skin is removed....and thus how much skin is needed.

Many have reported that it fools their doctors when they are finished.

Regards

My dh has been restoring off and on for a couple years now but I do notice some loose skin on his shaft. It is a very , very slow process but he is progressing.

Yes, eventually. It took me a long time, but my restored foreskin does return over the glans without assistance and it stays there in many situations.

DJay

thanks!

I can assure you this is not the case. The men who are manufacturing these devices are all men who have restored and have been actively involved in the movement against circumcision. All of them I know of started manufacturing the devices as a wholly altruistic pursuit to help other men. All of these devices are manufactured as a part time pursuit in addition to a full time job and they are manufactured in basement or garage workshops. These are not businesses as most would think of businesses and the profits are marginal if any. I suspect a doctor can make more profit in a single day performing circumcisions than these men make in a full year.

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I would second those comments about those who sell devices. These are do-it-yourselfers who are helping others on the side.

DJay