FEB '08 GRAIN-FREE Traditional Diets Thread - Page 2

[JaneSmith1010]

Originally Posted by firefaery

This is why I ended up raw. I felt good on the diet, but it just wasn't enough.
I finally got rid of all my symptoms when I did.

BTW-nuts (while I am not allergic or sensitive) aren't any good for me.

Oh gosh, I've been soooooo avoiding going raw. I don't know why. I guess it's time then. What is the best starter book(s)? Geez. I don't know why, but when I think of raw food diet I think of raw broccoli which I absolutely hate....love it lightly steamed though.

[Panserbjorne]

Honestly the one that made the biggest difference to me was We Want To Live. I'm not vegan. I eat raw meat, eggs, butter etc.

In terms of veggies, I don't eat a ton of them...mostly I juice.

[ChristieB]

Thank you everyone for the info about ED in last month's thread. I've been unable to get online much lately, but wanted to let you know I appreciate the good information. You people know so much!!

[ChristieB]

Originally Posted by jhow32000

Sorry to change the subject ladies but I'm having some issues.
1) I am bored with the foods available on the SCD, it's only the 3rd month. I have had good results with GI improvement and my skin is clear now.

I'm sorry. Maybe try the pecanbread website and others for more ideas on food?

2) I feel so gross eating all of these fatty foods, it feels like all I can eat is cheese and nuts....I can't eat alot of fruit which are good for snacking and I due to blood sugar problems I get shakey if I snack only on vegetables :

What about meat? Could you eat more?

4) I am having blood sugar problems. I have kept a food journal and I had cut carbs way,way back to almost nil. I had a banana today and am full of the shakes and keep having blood sugar dips. am I diabetic?..I have celiac and I know that after years of CD untreated I have a good chance of developing it.

It's type 1 that is linked to CD. What you're describing is symptomatic of type 2. My guess is that as you heal this will improve.

Another thought. Is this a recent development? If it is, it could be that you have been insulin resistant for awhile (and so making more insulin), and now that you are low-carb you are producing more insulin than you need? If so, that should normalize after awhile, I would think.

I'll have to admit, I know a lot less about this than I do about type 1.

5)this diet is high in allergenic foods like nuts and eggs. should I be alternating days eating these things or cut back on them at all?

You could certainly do this. It wouldn't hurt. We tried to rotate the nuts, and we didn't worry about the eggs. But I try every once in a while to give our bodies a break from foods that we eat often.

[bigknitwit]

Originally Posted by firefaery

You can still do waffles, pancakes, muffins, bread etc. using nut butter and flour instead of grains. We make a cinnamon pecan muffin that is PHENOMENAL, from Grain Free Gourmet. Everybody adores them!

I also make bread from almond flour and have even made french toast with it.

Grain Free Gourmet also has GREAT egg recipes-there is one for apple pancakes that I adapted and we love. It's just eggs, apples, cinnamon, honey and almond butter.

Also check out www.pecanbread.com and www.SCDrecipes.com for great ideas in grain free baking.

Is the book, "Grain Free Gourmet" worthwhile if one has to be egg-free? This is the part that is so challenging for me to deal with as it seems every alternative baked item involves eggs, and ds2 is off the charts IgG allergic to them.

[gilamama]

I made a yummy custard pudding type thing today that tastes like pumpkin pie filling. I think I got the idea from someone on the old thread. It is great and so filling.

I think in NT it says something abt broccoli not bein good to eat raw b/c of something that coimes out when you cook it. Maybe someone her knows more than I do abt what i am talking about.







Sooooo... My dd1 not grain free, but allergin free. she is the one whose liver tI thought was dumping last week. on the other thread firefaery you asked me why i thought so... So her bowels were better recently than ever so i thought we had gotten to a really good place in gut healing. This would alllow her liver to dump whatever it has been holding onto (she is vaxed, and ate allergins for 3+ years till she stopped nursing and her body went wacko from her allergies). Also - I dont know what you all will think of this - but sometimes I am blessed with "intuitive sight" into the inner workings of her body. I saw that there was alot of black in the area of her liver, then a few days later I saw it dumping and then I saw a big grey cloud in her abdomen. Havent seen anything since. This is a skill I would like to work on but havenot yet. Anyway. Now she is constipated. So it makes a bit of sense.


She also has labial pain and painful urination and when bearing down. Anyone have ideas about this? Sheused to have yeast issues but I am not sure if she still does. Will have to do the spit test tomorrow morning.

Any suggestions? How bout a



ETA: I am soaking sunflower, and pumpkin seeds and pinenuts to fry later in oliveoil and seasalt.



ETA again: Another snack for us is chopped up veggies (red pepper, carrot, kohlrabi, cucumber) dipped in hummus which if you make iy yourself you can add as much oil as you want - chickpeas, tehini or just sesame seeds, garlic, water, salt, olive oil and/or anyother oil flax seed adds omega 3 to balance the omega six in sesame.

[Panserbjorne]

Please, I prize well used intuition above all forms of medical testing. I was by no means challenging you, I jsut was unclear why you thought it was happening. I'm glad you hear that you feel it cleared. My question would be this: if you feel as though you can see what is happening energetically, do you try to treat it that was as well? If you have that gift, you might want to try working with it.

I'm wondering about infection for her given what you are saying. Is it possible she has a UTI? That would account for the symptoms and is also tied to yeast overgrowth. Oxalate sensitivity can also cause labial sensitivity and pain while bearing down.

Yes, broccoli has goitrogens, but not everyone will be sensitive-if you have thyroid issues you should avoid eating anything from the brassica family raw.

I am doing some work right now around raw foods. I think I have figured some things out that bridge the gaps in the info out there. No clinical trials-just lots of research and intuition at this point! Anyway, I think it's why I did so much better when I tweaked my rawness this last time...

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by bigknitwit

Is the book, "Grain Free Gourmet" worthwhile if one has to be egg-free? This is the part that is so challenging for me to deal with as it seems every alternative baked item involves eggs, and ds2 is off the charts IgG allergic to them.

DRAT! I'm so sorry. I feel like I keep doing that to you!

In the beginning I wasn't using eggs for ds (jsut for the first couple of weeks) and in the muffins and breads I subbed out flax seeds and water for eggs. It worked just fine, but is not technically legal on the SCD.

How about sausage for breakfast? That's still technically a breakfast food...

Okay, and this is going to go against what *I* have been doing, but have you checked out raw food cookbooks? They generally don't use eggs or grains. There are wonderful breads and muffins you can make as well as crackers and cookies etc. that would be fine for you I think.

I have made wonderful pancakes that are basically brazil nuts, banana, cinnamon and honey. Just a thought. We also make two breads that are fantastic and the kids clamored over. Basically, nuts, dates, apricots and spices. They are doughy and wonderful. Don't know if it would work in an oven, but it would be worth a try!

[gardenmommy]

Yes, we do love our sausages! FF, what is the texture like on the almond/nut butter baked goods? Is it anything like traditional stuff, or is it way different? I think I would have to call it something else if the texture is completely different. If it was yummy, I would just change the name, as my family gets kinda picky when I say we are having pancakes. They want *pancakes*, and they don't take kindly to my messing about with their favorites. Does that make sense?

Eggs are not a problem here, so I can make custards, puddings, etc. anything that is egg heavy is ok.

thankfully, my family doesn't mind yogurt and bananas, smoothies, or grapefruit for breakfast. I don't know why, this is just my hardest meal of the day.

[Panserbjorne]

On most of the baked good you'd never know they were grain free. The texture is much the same. I will say the pancakes taste a bit different, though. Muffins-you'd never know. At least the recipes from GFG!

The raw breads and muffins are different though.

[gilamama]

It is 9:45 here and I am ready to pass out. I couldnt find much info on oxalates. Maybe you know firefaery. How is your body *supposed* to process them? What tests would be done to see if this is a problem? Good night girls, sweet grain free dreams!

[Jojo F.]

Uh, I STIll have a tough time getting through to my IL's and we live with them. I have to constantly tell my MIL I can't eat what she just made. Then I hear, "Why?" Duh No dairy or grains!!! She doesn't understand that butter is dairy. Baffling. As for other people I just tell them I am unable to eat it. Plus, most of my friends are also dairy and grain free so that's a plus

FF- if I remember correctly you said going raw is expensive. How expensive?

I'm just not sure if I could do raw meat and fish. Is there an easy way to transition inot eating raw meats? Eggs are fine, no problem there.

[Shazer]

Originally Posted by cherryblossom

so i have been eating a TF diet for almost 3 years now and was relatively grain free, but totally grain free since about a month and a half ago. i was drinking raw milk until about a month ago when i had a kind of hypoglycemic reaction and a friend told me to stop drinking it. so i thought i would try more cream and very little milk since cream has more fat and way fewer carbs and still make my morning milkshakes with cream and egg yolks. (i am also doing high fat, low carb) well, these shakes are not sitting well with me. they either make my intestines start rumbling immediately or just make me kind of queasy. i was using a sweetner but cut it out b/c i just cannot handle anything sweet. and i was making smoothies for a while with fruit and there was CO in them, but again i started having hypoglycemic reactions to all the sugar no matter how much fat i incorporated.

Could you need more protein in your diet? Having been a former reactive hypoglycemic, I found that I really needed to up my protein intake. For a long time I couldn't have any sweets because I would get the blood sugar spike/drop. But now I can have limited honey or stevia. Can you eat nuts? They might be good for you. Also, because of the hypoglycemia factor, you may want to continuously eat. Have a few nuts or meat with a fat every hour and see if that helps. It really helped me to eat snacks throughout the day.

Originally Posted by jhow32000

Sorry to change the subject ladies but I'm having some issues.
1) I am bored with the foods available on the SCD, it's only the 3rd month. I have had good results with GI improvement and my skin is clear now.

2) I feel so gross eating all of these fatty foods, it feels like all I can eat is cheese and nuts....I can't eat alot of fruit which are good for snacking and I due to blood sugar problems I get shakey if I snack only on vegetables :

3)having trouble getting off the 5-10lbs I wanted to lose

4) I am having blood sugar problems. I have kept a food journal and I had cut carbs way,way back to almost nil. I had a banana today and am full of the shakes and keep having blood sugar dips. am I diabetic?..I have celiac and I know that after years of CD untreated I have a good chance of developing it.

5)this diet is high in allergenic foods like nuts and eggs. should I be alternating days eating these things or cut back on them at all?

Nuts and cheese, because of the balance of carbs/protein/fat, can make you stall out on weight loss. Plus, it is hard to eat just a few. Perhaps you can ease off of them for a while. For raw veggies, it should help for you to balance them with a fat and protein. Have a salad and drench it in oil. If you find fats unappealing, maybe you can try something like almond oil or macadamia nut oil which are virtually flavorless. If you drizzle oil over veggies, you won't taste too much.

Definitely if you are having blood sugar problems you should not binge on anything like a banana, which is very high in carbs. If you do have anything carby, balance should be your key. Never eat a something high in carbs alone. Eat some meat, butter, cream, or another fat and that should help even out the absorption. When I cured my body from reactive hypoglycemia, I had to be absolutely consistent with my carb intake. I stuck to a lot of greens and veggies, berries, hardly any other fruit. If I did have something high in carbs, even when I ate a fat and protein along, I ate again soon after just to make sure I didn't get the blood sugar drop.

For more ideas for fats, I used to use heavy cream and whip it up and eat it with berries, or I would mix it with nut butter. I'm not sure if that is legal on the SCD. Since you don't find fats too appealing, I don't know how you would feel about making mayonaise and something like chicken salad. I love making that and I add in dried unsweetened cranberries, celery, and even nuts sometimes. It is really filling.

[quelindo]

I can't remember who asked for a report on the Omega 8003 juicer, but I've used it a few times now and I love it! It's really quiet, seems solid, and it's kind of fun to watch the produce become juice. I downloaded a manual I found online that had a photo of all the parts, labeled, because the one it came with didn't have any thing like that, and I found it really easy to assemble.

Also, I had been complaining about not losing weight -- well, I stopped eating huge spoonfuls of cashew-macademia nut butter at night and now I am steadily dropping pounds. I think it had just become a habit and I wasn't even really hungry, so for now I'm avoiding it completely.

I'm still having sinus issues -- not headaches anymore but ongoing stuffiness. So tomorrow I'm going dairy-free (my son too, for other issues) to see if it helps.

Does anyone else ever feel like, How come other people seem to be able to eat whatever they want without thinking about it? I mean, I'm sure it isn't this way. Maybe they have problems with their diet and health, too. But sometimes it feels this way.

[bluets]

nut butter pancakes

i use a modified SCD recipe for pancakes that are a hit with my picky eaters...

instead of almond flour, i use cashew nut butter...

~1c. nut butter
4 eggs
1 Tbsp baking powder (maybe less?)
1 tsp or so of vanilla extract (though pumpkin pie spice works if the vanilla is gone)
honey to taste

whiz together. make small pancakes.

you'll want to cook over lower heat than "normal" pancakes - these tend to burn quickly.

i added a scoop of persimmon pulp this morning but have added pumpkin pulp in the past as well - good way to use up those things in my freezer that normally wouldn't be eaten if the guys knew they were eating them.

[Junegoddess]

Originally Posted by New Mama

Does anyone else ever feel like, How come other people seem to be able to eat whatever they want without thinking about it? I mean, I'm sure it isn't this way. Maybe they have problems with their diet and health, too. But sometimes it feels this way.

YES!

I hear that same sentiment from my mother, as well, as I'm sort of her unofficial health advisor (she doesn't have a good comfort level with internet stuff, so I find out things for her and drill them into her thick skull, LOL). She and I have almost all the same health problems, but... I dunno... I manage to keep a slightly more-positive attitude about it all.
I do like to dissect things, and I want someone to explain to me WHY other people are able to "get away" with their crappy eating habits. I ate total junk for most of my life, and was really quite sick by the age of 15. I would get so mad at my brother, and husband, and just people in general who seemed able to stuff whatever they wanted into their mouths. Well... it's finally caught up with both my brother and my husband, so... maybe it catches up with everyone eventually.

But even if it doesn't, there has to be some rhyme and reason to it. And I don't want to hear about karma, or god giving challenges to those that can handle them. Nuh-uh, not my bag, baby.

Maybe the folks that "tolerate" it better are closer to real food, genetically. What I mean is... my grandma ate poorly, because she was dirt poor. Then she gave my mom Karo syrup and condensed milk as a formula, because she couldn't make enough milk (I am absolutely convinced she has celiac and always did and that was the root of her "wasting"). Then I was allergic to what my mom was eating and had failure to thrive, but the dumbass docs just told my mom to put me on soy formula. SO... that's a lot of cumulative nutritional insults. My husband, on the other hand, was a late-life surprise for a mama who still gets misty-eyed from the memory of beef tongue sandwiches. She was a country bumpkin that ate everything but the horns and tail... and there are 12 years between him and his older sister. PLENTY of nutritional stores there! He has naturally-straight teeth, too, proof that he had a better start.

[suzukiaustin]

Originally Posted by New Mama

Does anyone else ever feel like, How come other people seem to be able to eat whatever they want without thinking about it? I mean, I'm sure it isn't this way. Maybe they have problems with their diet and health, too. But sometimes it feels this way.

OK, usually I'm a lurker (new to all of this and I don't have much to add) but I had to say that this post really spoke to me. I know this is the right way to eat (grain free), but it is so hard. It is just so dang hard when I'm chasing a two year old and I'm 8 months pregnant, and I have gained half as much weight as the first pregnancy and everyone is commenting on how underweight I am...and my ds as well. And how all I want is some downtime, some convenience, and some pleasure of a piece of sourdough bread with a big slab of butter. I mean, I'm happy never eating white bread again...and I love raw butter! I don't want to suffer the consequences, though, and my conscience just won't let me near that stuff anymore. I live in Australia right now and it's so hard to find quality food here. I want to go home, buy a deep freezer, a 1/4 a cow, find a local farm, want to see my friends and have some pot lucks...I can't do this here. I'm so frustrated with my food choices and I keep thinking about my former, carefree days of eating. I miss those days. It's almost as if the stress of all of this is counteracting any benefits I receive from eating grain free/tf/all organic/all homemade. I'm so thankful for this knowledge, to be free from prescription drugs and western medicine, to know that I'm feeding my family good food, but it's such a double edged sword right now...and it's just so hard. I think I need to go back to the states and stay with my family for a while...but what about my husband and his job and our relationship??? Am I seriously considering moving back to the states, taking my ds away from his father, because I can't handle the stress of all of this? Is it that important to be grain free??

Can you tell that my ds was up at 4:00 a.m., throwing up every hour and I haven't slept or eaten since lunch? My husband came home from work so I could eat a cup of soup and take a shower...he really is a gem...but I'm just so tired and want to buy a box of crackers and cheese right now. I know, total addicition...but my baby is starving right now. Going to eat a banana and some nuts. I'll post an intro soon.

Thank you all for being here. I really appreciate your honesty and determination to heal from the toxic world we were dumped into using natural means, starting with your diet. Thank you for the inspiration.

ETA: I know this is just a phase I'm going through, that this will get easier. I know that this will make me a stronger person, a better mother and will make me proud to be who I am. I know that it will just take some time and some patience. I know I will, all of us, will get there one day. I just have to keep the faith.

K, goodnight.

[ChristieB]

suzukiaustin,

I'm so sorry you're having such a hard time. I hope your ds gets better soon. 8 mos. pregnant is hard, all around, without adding diet issues.

I wish I had answers for you, but all I have is a . (Of course, if I weren't so tired myself, and online instead of in bed , maybe I'd be a bit more creative.)

[gilamama]

suzukiaustin. I know that the 8th month of pregnancy is major time that things come up for me. it is almost like my body/soul is sayinig to me: "Deal with this issue now! Before there is someone else to take care of/ take it out on!"

Anway, Magnesium and vitamin b supplements might help you keep your cool (they did for me ) I am assuming you are already taking CLO.

Have you posted in finding your tribe section? It is nice to have "friends" in your area, even if they are online, they some times "get" you a little better.

[quelindo]

suzukiaustin,