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post #81 of 160
I agree with the pps--kitchens, toy or otherwise, are not "gay." Many heterosexual men cook. My husband, for example. A kitchen is *room* in a *house.* How in the world can a *room* i.e. a physical space, have sexuality attached to it?
post #82 of 160
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Originally Posted by Brigianna View Post
I agree with the pps--kitchens, toy or otherwise, are not "gay." Many heterosexual men cook. My husband, for example. A kitchen is *room* in a *house.* How in the world can a *room* i.e. a physical space, have sexuality attached to it?
I can't agree with you. I'm almost certain my foyer is bisexual.
post #83 of 160
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I can't agree with you. I'm almost certain my foyer is bisexual.
I KNOW my hall closet is. One half of it holds old football pictures, the other half has a VERY feminine vacuum cleaner. (it's shimmery purple)
post #84 of 160
Y'all are SLAYIN' me.
post #85 of 160
OP, I'm sure you, your DS and DH are all just fine!
Good for you for getting the kitchen, I'm sure your DS will have hours and hours of fun with it.
post #86 of 160
Someone using the word 'gay' to mean 'lame' does not automatically make them a homophobe. I have a male friend who uses that word a lot but he is the biological father of the son two lesbian mamas. Also, his sister is bi. He just has poor language choice judgement. I think some of you are being a bit hard on the OP's DH. I'm sure he's a perfectly nice guy and a good father.
post #87 of 160
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I'm sure he's a perfectly nice guy and a good father.
If he's a perfectly nice guy then he needs to learn to use appropriate language.

If he was using racial slurs I doubt anyone would be defending him.

-Angela
post #88 of 160
By that logic, I should be a big scary lesbian . I played with boy-oriented toys most of my childhood. Fire engines, tonka trucks, action figures. My little brother thought I was the coolest big sister ever (even if I couldn't ride a bike).

However, I happen to be very attracted to male human beings, which sort of disqualifies me from being a lesbian.

People like what they like, and they love who they love, and often one has little or nothign to do with the other..
post #89 of 160
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Originally Posted by karina5 View Post

This attitude of a boy playing w/ "girl toys" is so prevelant in our society and it just : me and me to no end!!!

MY own DS has a *gasp* PINK Big Wheel!! It was a hand me down (the family almost didn't give it to me and I convinced them we could care less about the color - it is a cool bike) and DS doesn't give 2 hoots.
I'm right there with you. My kids had a pink Big Wheel too but they picked it out at the store
post #90 of 160
As if your son being gay is the worst thing that could ever happen. It really cheeses me that people would rather their kid be a serial killer than a happy gay person.
post #91 of 160
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
I have nothing kind to say to a man who:

#1. Has such rigid gender stereotypes.

#2. Thinks that a TOY will make an individual homosexual or not.

and

#3. Is so homophobic as to be afraid of a toy making an individual homosexual.



-Angela
post #92 of 160
Um, I have 2 words for him:

Jamie Oliver.

Mad skillz in the kitchen. Easy on the eyes. Soooooooooo not gay.

And my younger brother for that matter. Head chef of a very well known restaurant. Getting married July 4th weekend. Granted our mothers are lesbians, but I'm pretty sure that had nothing to do with his career choice.

I swear to you, homosexuality does not rub off kitchen appliances and stick to your skin.



One tiny question, what happens if you DON'T get him a kitchen and he is still gay? What toy could be the culprit?
post #93 of 160
MMMMM, Jamie Oliver !!! :

THere are lots of top chefs that are male and not gay.

90 % of the meals at my house my kids prep and cook. They also play kitchen with their 1 y/o sister. They are 11,8,6 and not giving it up anytime soon.
post #94 of 160
How about this: every chemist and doctor I've ever met (none of them gay) love to cook. Something about the chemistry of gourmet cooking is a big turn on.

So perhaps you have a budding scientist on your hands.

V
post #95 of 160
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Originally Posted by Lady In Red View Post
Nothing is more sexy to a woman than a man who can cook...
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Originally Posted by sofiabugmom View Post

Plus, my husband learned how to cook because he'd heard a newsradio article that did a survey on single men ... according to the article, the most, ahem, "successful" dates happened as a direct result of going to the girlfriend's apartment to cook her dinner.
People! Don't you know men who can cook might also attract - : - GAY MEN???
post #96 of 160
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People! Don't you know men who can cook might also attract - : - GAY MEN???
sure, in fact I am sure that gay men are attracted to my husband. He is HOT!
post #97 of 160
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sure, in fact I am sure that gay men are attracted to my husband. He is HOT!
Just goes to show that cooking is a skill that seems to be valued by all
post #98 of 160
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Originally Posted by Violet2 View Post
How about this: every chemist and doctor I've ever met (none of them gay) love to cook. Something about the chemistry of gourmet cooking is a big turn on.

So perhaps you have a budding scientist on your hands.

V
Yup!! I've never met a scientist that didn't like to cook. All of my boys LOVE to cook, as does my dh (thank goodness!!!), and my brother, and my FIL who was raised on a farm and is a rugged outdoorsman type. For that matter, I find that many of the small farmers and hunters that I've known in my life have enjoyed cooking. It's a pretty basic part of human life. I feel really bad for my SIL because her dh doesn't cook AT ALL, and she's not really "into it", either. I honestly don't know what they eat -- probably restaurant food prepared by line cooks, most of whom happen to be men.

While I agree w/the vast majority of opinions posted here concerning the relevancy of the "gayness" factor of toys, I have to say that a little courtesy goes a long way. The man made an unsophisticated, uneducated remark, but it was not a direct slur, and most likely it was an honest concern based on years of misinformation. Education starts with understanding, and if you can't meet an otherwise normal person (we're not talking hate groups here) halfway, how in the world are things supposed to change?

And I've met lots and lots of people with less than stellar ideas about other people who were won over by the more open-minded opinions of their offspring. I think it's counterproductive to write off every person who says something objectionable. It's easier, but it doesn't do much for the world.

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post #99 of 160
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The man made an unsophisticated, uneducated remark, but it was not a direct slur...
Really? You're sure?

I'm not.
post #100 of 160
Of course, not knowing her husband, I can't be absolutely certain that it wasn't. However, I have encountered the kind of person who makes comments like his seems to be, and given the OP's attitude and description of the situation, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until I receive information indicating that I shouldn't.

I'd rather assume the best, and deal with being wrong, than judge first and lose the opportunity to change someone's heart and mindset.
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