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post #41 of 168
Hi!

I am American (of European descent, Scots-Irish, German, English, Welsh) and my husband is German-French. We also have many differences in many issues, having been raised in two different countries.
We use the OPOL method, raising our kids multi-lingual (English, French, and the German the learn from being in Germany) and multi-cultural.
post #42 of 168
Just checking in, neat forum

I'm caucasian, DH is Korean. We intermix Korean and American culture pretty regularly, celebrate both sets of holidays etc. I speak Spanish and English (my mother grew up in Puerto Rico, I was raised bilingual) and he is re-learning Korean (he's lost a lot of it from lack of practice).

Glad to see everyone!
Bellevuemama
post #43 of 168
Hi. I'm Rebekah. I'm an American and my husband is Scottish.
post #44 of 168
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Originally Posted by mamefati28 View Post
For now, we identify my son as black as well.

I would like to expand on this issue as well...maybe start another thread?
I have so many questions about this.....
When you say for now..what do you mean?
Why do you identify him as black?
What are your thoughts about kids who are 1/2 black 1/2 white having to "pick a color to identify with?" (I am using these 2 as the example as I have seen this happen the most with these youths)
I am very concerned about my son having to "pick a color to be", everything is so black and white it seems...is there a middle ground?
Respectfully
MF
Well, I cannot speak for the other poster, but for myself. My dd's biological father is what I call "of indeterminate background." We know that his mother is Italian, but his father, well no one is sure, but it is guessed that he is Black or part Black. Who knows?

Those people are not involved in our lives at all and I suppose I could incorporate a bit of the culture in, but I haven't as of yet and it is hard to do so without paying respect to all of the cultures that also created me. Black folks are a mix of things and mine range from Native American to Creole, so it is difficult to pin down one specific culture to incorporate.

It is easier to say that we are a Black family because for me, I have always acknowledged that, for me, Black means a host of influences. Is that pretty clear? Or is there a better way that I could phrase it?
post #45 of 168
I'm Natasha. I'm Canadian and my dh is Swedish. We have lived together in Germany (where we met), Sweden (dd1 was born there) and now in Canada. We use the OPOL method for our kids to learn both languages. We are also lucky to live near a city with a Swedish community large enough to support a Swedish language school. DD1 attends the school every Saturday morning and dd2 will join her next year when she turns 3. The school has programs from preschool to high school age. Not only are the girls getting more exposure to the language from the school, but they are also making friends that speak Swedish. DD1 is already noticing that she is a bit different than her kindergarten classmates since she is the only one who speaks 2 languages, so I think having friends at Swedish school in the same situation is helpful to her. It is also helping her that a friend she made in her swim class recently moved her from Germany and is still learning English, so she doesn't feel so alone in speaking a different language anymore (we are in a very small town with relatively few people from other cultures/countries).
post #46 of 168
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Originally Posted by Bad Mama Jama View Post
Black folks are a mix of things and mine range from Native American to Creole, so it is difficult to pin down one specific culture to incorporate.

It is easier to say that we are a Black family because for me, I have always acknowledged that, for me, Black means a host of influences. Is that pretty clear? Or is there a better way that I could phrase it?
Although our families are different, I think you've said it pretty well. I had gone into this in my original posting, but then read the guidelines and interpreted them as not being so cool with dialogues of this nature. I don't know. It seems a bit weird to me to create a multicultural forum and not realize that there will be different ways in which race and culture are understood, and, seeing as this is often so closely tied to racism (at least for the folks of colour) that things might get...uh.. a little heated.

But in the interests of NOT getting heated , we ID my son (and myself) as Black for political reasons. Historically, our roots are haunted with the realities of colonialism, such that the "purity" of race becomes a farce. Thanks to the brutal realities of slavery in my history, trying to piece myself off into fractions doesn't work very easily and also resurfaces scientific racism (octoroon, quadroon, yikes!). And also I wonder, to what purposose does it serve to move away from blackness by making sure to ID the "other" parts of you? We know that many people who read as "white" are also probably part Aboriginal/indigenous/native/African/?? (as are many "Black" people) but often they don't see the need to ID as variously raced. Also, Blackness is so often vilified, it took quite radical politics to make it something positive to ID (black is beautiful - free Huey!) and that is something I want to reclaim, for myself and for my son.

Anyhow, as for my son, his donor is Ukrainian-Canadian (white), one of his moms is New Zealand/Ukrainian-Canadian and one of his moms is me, African/Caribbean-Canadian and variously raced due to a West Indian lineage. My son is shades lighter than me, but lives in a very structured society that only gives him so much room to move. For now, that means we are politically identifying him as Black (trying to use the one drop rule subversively I suppose) but know that race identifications change so quickly and so often, that the door is open for him to create whatever racial ID he wants (and gender ID, and sexual ID as well). His ID as Black is a political category as well as a racialized one. He is donor conceived and queer parented, from a family with multiple adoption histories. So his 'roots' as it were are quite complicated as it is, we will see how he puzzles them all out as he gets older.

I'm sure that sounds more complicated than it should be. Maybe a thread on this would be beneficial.
post #47 of 168
Hello!!

We're Crystal and Bryan, two caucasians from Iowa, and I'm preggo.

DD's biological father is Black and Mexican-American. It's tough figuring out how to insert multi-culti aspects into DD's life when both DP and I are white and our community is also ridiculously white.
post #48 of 168
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mamefati28 View Post
For now, we identify my son as black as well.
I would like to expand on this issue as well...maybe start another thread?
I have so many questions about this.....
When you say for now..what do you mean?
Why do you identify him as black?
What are your thoughts about kids who are 1/2 black 1/2 white having to "pick a color to identify with?" (I am using these 2 as the example as I have seen this happen the most with these youths)
I am very concerned about my son having to "pick a color to be", everything is so black and white it seems...is there a middle ground?
Respectfully
MF[/QUOTE]


I know growing up, I hated having to pick a race, there was a lot of pressure from my dad and my peers. I use many races nowadays depending on the crowd. However I will not ever be "fully" black or experience life as a black person would. I don't quite get the same level of discrimination. However I'm certainly not getting the same priviledges as a white person either. I think with interracial people, race can be fluid...ideally it would be the same across the board, but it's a long way off. Personally I am going to let my kids self identify based on how they're treated, with a little guidance from mum. I think there should be a space for middle ground and am fighting for it, but society isn't there yet...maybe when I'm done with it. Muahahahahaaaaa!
post #49 of 168
I should also add that our kid goes to a Francaphone daycare, and will go to French Milieu school. We speak both French and English at home, but we might start the OPOL approach. Although French is the colonizers language (ha!) I am still very invested in my baby being billingual, as his grandparents on my side speak Kweyol, a French patois from the Caribbean. I was never introduced to it, but can understand it (thanks to my French-immersion schooling) so I want him to have the option as well.
post #50 of 168
Greetings fellow multi-cultural peeps!

My husband grew up in Sweden with Polish parents. Then he married me, an American and we lived in Sweden for a few years. This means we're a Polish/Swedish/English speaking family. We're having a lot of success with the OPOL method and my son currently attends a Swedish school here in Sac once a week.

I'm sure you guys can relate to how fun it is to have more holidays to celebrate and varied dishes from those countries.
post #51 of 168

Hola muchachas!

Glad this forum exists...I haven't had occasion to use it up till now but I suspect that as dd gets older it will become more and more useful.

I am a white Midwesterner (of German, English and Welsh ancestry, but with little connection to those cultures save for some family recipes) and dh is Mexican (of Indigenous and Spanish heritage). DH and I usually speak English to each other, sometimes Spanish, and we want our daughter to be fluently bilingual. We live in the US but plan at some point to live in Mexico (dh is from Michoacan, central highlands).

I speak English to dd, and dh agrees that he should speak Spanish to her, but he often forgets or just speaks English anyway. It's frustrating, because his English is far from fluent and my Spanish is far from fluent, so I really want us both to speak our native languages so she learns them correctly. I guess I'm not that worried about it, but I don't want her to be confused.

In terms of culturally mixing our families, we plan to celebrate American and Mexican traditional holidays, foods, customs, etc. I would really like to find other Latino families in our area so that dd has other Spanish-speaking friends, but dh tends to be very mistrusting of other Mexican immigrants and doesn't want us to.

We live in a cooperative community full of bilingual families from all over the world--I'm thrilled that dd will grow up (or at least spend her first few years) with friends speaking a multitude of languages and sharing different customs.
post #52 of 168
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Originally Posted by rabbitmum View Post

Some of you may think that Norwegian-English isn't really very multi-cultural, as we're both from Europe, neighbouring countries, both white, both brought up Christian(ish) - but you would be surprised at how many cultural differences there are between our countries, and how much of an impact they sometimes have on our family life!
I definitely consider that multi-cultural!!

As for us, my DH is French, I have dual citizenship and our DS is French (hopefully he'll soon have dual citizenship--his parents need to get off their duffs and get it for him already!).
post #53 of 168
I can see there are some very interesting discussions going on here, I would love to join

I'm half American, half Swiss, though I've lived in Switzerland for most of my life. My husband is Rwandese, but grew up in several African countries. We're raising our daughter in Switzerland (for the moment at least, we have considered leaving in the past). Our daughter is exposed to four languages on a regular basis, and we're very curious to find out what she'll end up speaking
post #54 of 168
Hi all. I am glad to see this forum. I am caucasian, comprised of Native American, Scottish, German..... DP is Hindu - Punjabi. Baby is expected to be here any day now. DP speaks Hindi/ punjabi and swahili. He is of Indian descent but was born and raised in Kenya. I definitely want DC to lean Hindi and hopefully swahili will work it's way in too.

But I am looking forward to having some place to discuss some of the potential things that life with this baby of 2 very different cultures will bring me.
post #55 of 168
Afternoon. I'm American, DH is German. We're raising Carmen with both languages. I can't believe this place finally exists.
post #56 of 168
hello!!!
im delfina, argentinean of european(basque/italian)roots. my partner is from england and we live in mexico with our little mexican baby. im sure he will pick up both languages at some point, not sure wich one first. i speak spanish to him, but english to my partner, many mexican friends around, so let's see.
glad to see this forum manifested!
post #57 of 168
Thanks so very much for this forum. I need to be around this diversity.

From first appearances, my family looks like an African-American family. My husband is biracial, we are not sure exactly what heritage his mother has, and his father is African-American (probably mixed with a host of backgrounds also). My mother is a myriad of of cultures, African, Dutch, Creole, she tells us. She's a mysterious woman, I don't know much about her. My father is Ghanaian. I have a lot of respect for the fact that as a black person in America, I at least have lineage in Africa I can be sure of, and a lot of my peers, cousins, aunts, uncles, do not have the privelege of knowing this.

So this is us in a nutshell.

Peace and thanks for reading.
post #58 of 168
well. I'll be damned. It's the new multi-cultural forum.




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I am an american by birth, & DH is Australian. We have lived in Australia for the last 9 years.
post #59 of 168
I am a white american, and my ex is from Nigeria (although born in the states, he was raised in Nigeria). Our daughter is a beautiful combo of us both! Look forward to communicating with others as my daughter and I are not a common site. How do I instill a love of her heritage when Daddy doesn't like to talk about it and his family has been brutal to us not loving? How do I make sure she loves how beautiful she is growing up in her white surroundings? DD is loved to pieces by my entire family. My concern is others in our community. Children like to touch her hair on the playground. And when I breastfeed her some people have been shocked, saying they didn't think she was mine. DD is 2 1/2 and understands what people are saying already. She likes to talk about different skin tones (Mommy's pink, Gramma's cream, Grandpa's tan). Looking for guidance to raise DD with pride and love of self and others.
post #60 of 168
It so much fun to hear about all the diversity on MDC!

I was made in the USA - Ukranian/Irish/Russian/French Canadian/so white I'm nearly see-through. DH is a born n' raised Venezuelan, now a US citizen as well. We speak English/Spanish to each other but just Spanish to 19-month old DD, who picks and chooses which word she likes between Spanish, English, and ASL.

At this point, I nearly consider myself Latina, and I'm most interested in helping DD adore her Spanish language skills and Venezuelan heritage, though I have received a lot of push-back from my family on not emphasizing the American side enough... definitely looking to hear others' stories and advice on that in the future.
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