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post #1 of 17
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I took DD (24 months) into a ped. dentist this morning after I've been paying close attention to her teeth and had some concerns, AND after just finding out that my DH's siblings (not sure about him) all had dental issues right from the start. My concerns were with her top front 4 teeth, I figured she surely had a cavity in one.

Well, she did amazingly well at the dentist...I left in tears, though. She DOES have a cavity on the tooth I suspected and very early signs of possible ones on the other 3, but he said that with all of those, he can see proper growth of tooth ABOVE the problem areas which shows that they aren't progressing and that something we did in the past 6 months or so changed it for our benefit (umm...ironically that'd be when we nightweaned. ). He commended us on not using flouride (and said he actually recommends the Spry infant tooth gel that we use) and on taking great care of her teeth. And then he check her molars....

3 have cavities! I feel sick, like an awful mother. I watch what she eats, I'm picky about how much sugar she gets, we brush well, she takes CLO/vit D, etc. He said it could be anything that caused it, and that these 3 are likely there just because of the one that started on her front tooth (the bacteria came from that one first). Good news was that he said her case is really minor, and that most kids in her shoes would have been in months ago with 10x as many problems. So he didn't seem really concerned. However, he said he only does dental work on kids this young as an outpatient procedure. He said he'd fill those 3 cavities and the top one since he was doing it anyway (had she not had the other 3 he wouldn't have done anything) and then he'd put a tiny bit of sealant in her other teeth and just try to take whatever preventative measures he could during the process.

Okay, so it makes me want to throw up. Mostly because she's already been under general anesthesia once in her young life (at 9 months for a surgery to remove a lipoma near her spine). I don't want to have to do that to her again. AND it's going to cost us about $3-3500 since we don't have dental insurance (and despite being really low income, we don't have gov't assistance either).

I don't know if I'm just looking for someone to tell me it's okay or what. I just feel sick, like I've let my little girl down. My MIL is calling around to get some other ideas (other hospitals, other dentists, etc) because I couldn't do it, and thankfully she reminded me that my SIL had this done at DD's age, too, so it's not MY fault and is nearly positively genetics. But still...
post #2 of 17
Oh mama! s I am so sorry you are having to go through this. I would seek a second opinion though just incase something else can be done.

It sounds like you did an awesome job caring for your DD teeth. It really can be genetic. My son is 5 and has had a few cavities and 1 crown. We have always brushed, flossed, took him to the dentist, limited his sweet and we use xylitol.
I get so upset as we do all this and he still gets them. I have a mouth full of fillings, my husband has NONE. He said he rarely brushed his teeth growing up and still does not floss and he has amazing teeth. I brush, floss, xlitol and still get new cavities. My son has got my teeth, all I can hope is his adult teeth have a better chance.
post #3 of 17
Sigh. I was just coming on to post the same thing. And I'm going to anyway cause I need to get it out. We just took our 2 yo to the dentist becuase I was concerned about some discolouration. He has 5 cavities, the dentist didnt' say much more then that, he refered me to a pediatric dentist who we have an appt with tomorow. I am so sad, I just want to cry, we to do everything right, his older brother has perfect teeth.

The dentist was basically like "meh. soemtimes it's just luck of the draw."

I'm scared of what the dentist tomorow is going to say and I'm scared about general anesteshia. I'm so frustrated right now.

Then my dad was like "you shoudl get him tested for calcium deficiencies. It's probably becuase your vegetariens." THANKS! THAT IS SO HELPFULL!!!!!!!!
post #4 of 17
I knpw exactly how you feel,I have been going through similar thing with dd (26 months). I went to one dentist who found cavities on dd front teeth as well as two bottom molars. The dentist also sugested sealent on the other molars.
I was feeling the same way -what an awful mom, what could I have done better....What more could we have done
We decided to get a second opinion. The second dentist agreed that the front teeth had some issues but wants to do some preventive care, and see how things are in a few months. She felt that the molars were fine and that my dd just has deep grooves in her teeth. She also told us that sealents were a waste of money for baby teeth. She did suggest topical use of flouride, which i'm not sure about.
That's alot of money to spend I reallythink you should get a second opinion.

Good Luck!!
post #5 of 17
Sorry for you mama. We had to do outpatient dental surgery on DD when she was 18 months. We ended up with 3 caps, one extraction, and fillings on all her molars. The dentist wanted to blame me for nightnursing, but I still maintain that it was most likely the antibiotics that were pushed on her a day after birth that damaged her baby teeth while they were still in the gums.

Anyway, another thought would be to look into how much it would cost to fly down here to Costa Rica and have it done. Our ped. dentist is excellent at what he does (even if I disagree with him blaming breastfeeding). It may actually be cheaper to fly down here and have it done (flight, hotel and all) than to do it in the US.

Just another thought ...
post #6 of 17
I have gotten both of my daughters Healozone treatments for their minor cavities. Worked great.
post #7 of 17
We have been dealing with my sons dental issues since he was 15 months old and found 5 cavaties (yes, 5 at just over a year!) He wasn't even eating food until he was 1! Since then he has had more fillings and had to have a tooth removed. We do our best, but the dentist said he just has weak enemal : ( He is 3 now and is a trooper at the dentist but looks so funny with his missing tooth (he loves it thinks he looks like a monster )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...roup025web.jpg

As you can see they all have some teeth issues
post #8 of 17
OH, I also remember that there is some research into L.Reuteri being effective against S.Mutans.
post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by Demeter9 View Post
I have gotten both of my daughters Healozone treatments for their minor cavities. Worked great.
Where are you located? I've just begun my search for a dentist who treats with Healozone. We're in NH.

Can you descibe your experiences in more detail?
post #10 of 17
I am in Calgary Alberta Canada.

It took some doing to find a dentist that had one. Then it took a little more doing to find another when some political infighting at the clinic I was going to shelved the unit and sent the dentist away with some deal to not be able to take previous patients.

It was super simple after finding the dentist. The second hardest thing was that it is not covered by insurance. Strictly out of pocket. I just paid $280 for my second daughter to get all of hers done, as she has exactly the same two cavities.

They take an ozone machine with a little hose and a nub that is fits over a tooth. Hold it on a tooth for 1 minute. For each tooth that is effected (or all of them if you prefer). The ozone kills the bacteria that is eating the tooth. (the process I believe is called insufflation)

Then use a remineralization kit (or get your own if you don't like fluoride) faithfully. Only one of my one daughters teeth didn't take the treatment and was filled - however, I think that a second shot and more remineralization might have done the trick but that is when my dental office fiasco was so I couldn't find someone who still did it.

The colour of the second dentin is not the same. It is brownish, but hard. I do have to tell any other dentist that it is hard and that it has been for a long time and that it doesn't need to be filled. Because they will surely tell me to fill it anyways.
post #11 of 17
1babysmom. I know how horrible it feels to discover decay in your baby's mouth .

I am still in shock that 21 mo has major cavities as well. The only thing that gives me hope is the possibility that a combination of HealOzone and MI remineralizing paste will be enough to stop the decay in dd's mouth and allow the dentin to become hard enough. I can dream right?
post #12 of 17
Hey, I am right there with you. I felt super bad at first b/c ds1 has a cavity, but you know what, I AM OVER THE GUILT. It isn't my fault nor the end of the world. If that is the worst thing that happens to my son, i am lucky.
post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by Ksenia View Post
1babysmom. I know how horrible it feels to discover decay in your baby's mouth .

I am still in shock that 21 mo has major cavities as well. The only thing that gives me hope is the possibility that a combination of HealOzone and MI remineralizing paste will be enough to stop the decay in dd's mouth and allow the dentin to become hard enough. I can dream right?
Where do you buy the MI paste? I've never heard anything about that HealOzone anywhere near me so I'm assuming that probably won't be an option.
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by 1babysmom View Post
Where do you buy the MI paste? I've never heard anything about that HealOzone anywhere near me so I'm assuming that probably won't be an option.
I think you can only buy the MI paste from a dentist or the internet because it's a professional product. I bought it from the kids' dentist. Some MDC mamas have travelled to get the HealOzone treatment :
post #15 of 17
I would look around to see if you can find dentists that have th healozone. I found that some pretty small towns around here had it.
post #16 of 17

I'm on this forum because my 23mo is having major enamel issues.
but...I totally know how you feel.
I wanted to let you know that my oldest--now 8y had 5 cavities at age 3 and I felt like a terrible mother, but we did all the gentle holistic things we could, added xylitol, homeopathics, raw milk, etc. and she's had no more cavities, now she's lost 8 baby teeth, and all her permanent teeth are beautiful (even her pede dentist said so).
The general thing is the hard spot. Maybe your mil will have some good luck finding another dentist.
Good luck--sometimes it just is their teeth.
post #17 of 17
I need help as well. My 6 yr old 4 cavities and he said they are super small but should be taken care of now while they are small. My problem is she is freaked out over dentists and just this past visit did she let them clean her teeth. I am not sure how she got all these cavities as she brushes, flosses, we don't drink juice, she rarely eats candy and eats good food.

So the other problem is she is going through anxiety right now for some reason...mainly at night. We have been working on it since December and she is better. She was having full blown panic attacks but like I said is doing better but still suffers from anxiety.

So she has a Happy appt where they will show her what will be done, etc. He said they will give her something on her tooth to numb it and then give her laughing gas and let her watch a movie...but I am still freaked out.

What happens if she doesn't allow them to work on her. Will she have major problems with her teeth further down the road?

Lisa
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