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Mama, you are doing a great service to many parents with your Night Weaning Journal!

We used the same method when dd2 was 15 months with mixed results. So, I want to address this:
DH and I are thrilled that it seems to be going over so well. I guess one of these nights DS will just stop waking up at those times since there's no reason to?

My dd2 was very wakeful and unhappy during our night weaning experience until I figured out that we were actually waking her up at night! When I realized this, I moved her bed out into the hall (with a little nest built around her) since we were in a tiny two bedroom condo, and she immediately started sleeping through the night - like six and seven hour stretches! So, sometimes it's the nursing, sometimes it's those pesky parents! :
Wow, soooooo interesting. Food for thought. Thanks for sharing So, what specifically about you guys was it that was waking her? Just moving around and bumping into you or what? What made you finally figure it out?

P.S. I love the little nest idea - I have this adorable visual in my head now!

P.S.S. Thanks for the kind words about my "journal" of sorts. It's hard to know if it's really helping anyone but myself, but my intention is that others can learn from our mistakes and/or successes, so it's good to know that at least a few people are getting something from it
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For what it's worth, here's my take on the teething and night weaning - yes, they're essentially always teething (or have a cold, or milestone, like you said) and some nights are bad (like my last 3) and some are okay. For me, I would rather get some decent sleep (read: night wean) on those nights that teething isn't disturbing us so much and then have to "give in" and nurse on those few terrible nights and start the process over again than not night wean at all because I'm worried about what to do on those few terrible nights. I don't feel like I have lost my soothing tool because A. I now know DS can be soothed by something other than my breast and B. I can always change my mind and give him my breast should he really need it during those times. I only know this now because we've tried it with my DS and he's handling it really well, so even if we have to stop and start again, I think he'll get it again really quickly. And since DS is having the worst teething nights of his life right now, but he's ok with no nursing at night, maybe it won't even be an issue for us (but from what I hear about molars, that might not be the case)! Even though I have to wake up and pat DS when he's been waking up these past nights, it only takes a few minutes - if that - which for me, is easier than nursing. I also think if he was night nursing right now he'd would probably be latched for quite a while - making me the human pacifier - so I'm glad to have reprieve from that as long as DS is okay with it too. I am not expecting that night weaning will stop all night wakings. The last six nights have taught me that! But, I'm hoping to just have it be better - not all the time - but just some of the time. Any extra sleep I can get is a good thing. I'm not thinking this is going to be the magic key to STTN, but it's a step in the right direction.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do. I hope you find something that works for you and your babe I'd love to hear how it goes if you decide to do it.
THanks for your honest advice. I like how you have thought it out. I think I am going to wait for these top two molars to break through and then start b/c I do think we need to make a change especially since we'd like to TTC#2 this spring/summer and I still have not had my pp AF. I like that you think you can still offer nursing on the bad nights and then hopefully go back to your regular routine. That is reassuring and makes sense. I just don't think I am up for doing it now while she is getting her molars b/c she is up literally every hour and I just don't have the energy reserves to put in a week to wait for change. I will keep you posted once we get under way - hopefully these molars come soon, b/c this momma is getting exhausted:yawning:
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THanks for your honest advice. I like how you have thought it out. I think I am going to wait for these top two molars to break through and then start b/c I do think we need to make a change especially since we'd like to TTC#2 this spring/summer and I still have not had my pp AF. I like that you think you can still offer nursing on the bad nights and then hopefully go back to your regular routine. That is reassuring and makes sense. I just don't think I am up for doing it now while she is getting her molars b/c she is up literally every hour and I just don't have the energy reserves to put in a week to wait for change. I will keep you posted once we get under way - hopefully these molars come soon, b/c this momma is getting exhausted:yawning:
I'm glad I could help! I don't blame you for wanting to wait until the molars are in to start. Even though DS is handling the night-weaning part really well, it's a lot to be doing that AND be dealing with teething. Everything feels out of sorts right now. I am really pretty stressed about how far we have to go with the teeth (not in terms of night weaning, but just in general). Every mom I talk to says the canines or the molars are the worst and we have ALL of those still to go, not to mention that just the top front ones are causing so much disruption right now, so I don't even want to think about what those other worse ones will be like - yikes. Good luck to you and your babe with the night-weaning (whenever you do start) and here's hoping to you getting some sleep soon
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NIGHT SEVEN!! Finally, DS is not waking every hour - yay!! He gave us a glorious three hour stretch and woke up at 9:30pm. I nursed him and then when DH and I came to bed for good around 10:30pm, I thought for sure DS would wake up to nurse again - he always does - but he was sleeping so hard that he didn't. As I fell asleep, I felt funny about the fact that he wouldn't be all tanked up for the night. I figured I'd just see how it went and adjust accordingly if need be. DS woke up around 2am and he rolled over towards my boob and did the rooting/mouth thing. I patted him and he wasn't happy for about 15 seconds, but then rolled over and went back to sleep. I don't think his eyes even open during this. Then, he woke up at 4am and I felt like it was a little too early for me to nurse him, so when he tried, I did the same - patted him and again, he wasn't happy for about 15 seconds, but then fell back asleep until around 5:15am. I have to say that I felt conflicted since he hadn't nursed since 9:30pm the night before (and isn't doing many solids) and I knew he must be a little hungry, but he was able to be soothed and go back to sleep in no time. Of course, I nursed him around 5:15am and he nursed for a while and never really got fully back to sleep just with that one side (he must've been hungry!) so I gave him the other side and he fell asleep after that one (although it took longer than usual - he kept rolling on and off of the boob) until around 7:15am.

It was such a treat to have him sleep longer. He does seem to be trying for the milkies a little more than he was those first 5 nights, but he's going back to sleep really easily without them, so I'm comfortable with how it's going. Maybe now that he's not waking every hour we'll get to see how this is going to pan out a little more. Maybe tonight's the night he'll "forget" to wake up one of those times during the night!

Oh and by the way, even though we're following Dr. Gordon's plan, we're not changing the ways we're comforting him every three days. We aren't tapering it off or anything. We just keep doing what it takes to keep him happy and going back to sleep and if that should keep up for more than a few weeks, then maybe we'll consider doing a little less. And actually, it's sort of happened naturally because of those nights when I was too tired to sing or when I would fall asleep massaging DS.
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Oh and by the way, even though we're following Dr. Gordon's plan, we're not changing the ways we're comforting him every three days. We aren't tapering it off or anything. We just keep doing what it takes to keep him happy and going back to sleep and if that should keep up for more than a few weeks, then maybe we'll consider doing a little less. And actually, it's sort of happened naturally because of those nights when I was too tired to sing or when I would fall asleep massaging DS.
We are doing the same as well! Its like his plan was our outline, a general guide to help us feel like there was some sort of plan - but we've totally adapted it and made it work for us and what we think is working best for him. And its going wonderfully, totally different from your happenings, but nonetheless wonderful. I finally feel like sleep for everyone is getting better and better everynight. We are on like night 10 I think, but I think I stopped counting once we got comfortable with our "plan", yk?

Keep it up...I love hearing. You and your ds are doing great!
post #46 of 193

Thanks for the thread

My daughter is 10.2 months and even though may seem too young to wean, I feel we need to as I need sleep. DH and I are both very sick with bronchitis/pneumonia and I suspect that 9 months of broken sleep has not been without repercussion.

When my dd was 3-6, she never needed to nurse every hour. I nursed her to sleep at around 7:30-8 and put her in her crib. She would usually sleep until 1 but sometimes not. Then wake again around the 4 o'clock time. I usually nursed her and put her back into her crib. She was fine.

But when she was strong enough to move a sheet from her face, we started co-sleeping with her. (though the crib in in our bedroom). And things went down hill from then I think. Now she wakes frequently, I try not to bother DH so I nurse her as soon as I can. She nurses all the time. And I think I am inadvertently training her TO wake up and TO need to nurse.

So in the interest of getting better, we are starting something similar. I haven't read Gordon's plan but will when I have time. But from 12-4 last night, no nursing. She woke and I was always able to comfort her back to sleep. I don't even think she knew she was awake some of the times. Once she fell back asleep draped over me and on her knees.

We are just going to give all of us that one block of time.

My dd is in very low weight and NOT into solids much at all. Doc is concerned about he place on the chart, so I always nursed whenever because of her weight issue.

But we have to try this... we need to get better. We are sick zombies. Any advice or encouragement is going to be much needed.
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We are doing the same as well! Its like his plan was our outline, a general guide to help us feel like there was some sort of plan - but we've totally adapted it and made it work for us and what we think is working best for him. And its going wonderfully, totally different from your happenings, but nonetheless wonderful. I finally feel like sleep for everyone is getting better and better everynight. We are on like night 10 I think, but I think I stopped counting once we got comfortable with our "plan", yk?

Keep it up...I love hearing. You and your ds are doing great!
Hi and thanks for the post! I'd love to hear more about how things are going with you guys... how is your DS handling no milk? Does he fuss? Has he stopped waking for some or all of the feedings? Did he ever barf after gorging in the am?! I am so happy to hear that things are going wonderfully and sleep is getting better for all - keep up the good work!

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My daughter is 10.2 months and even though may seem too young to wean, I feel we need to as I need sleep. DH and I are both very sick with bronchitis/pneumonia and I suspect that 9 months of broken sleep has not been without repercussion.

When my dd was 3-6, she never needed to nurse every hour. I nursed her to sleep at around 7:30-8 and put her in her crib. She would usually sleep until 1 but sometimes not. Then wake again around the 4 o'clock time. I usually nursed her and put her back into her crib. She was fine.

But when she was strong enough to move a sheet from her face, we started co-sleeping with her. (though the crib in in our bedroom). And things went down hill from then I think. Now she wakes frequently, I try not to bother DH so I nurse her as soon as I can. She nurses all the time. And I think I am inadvertently training her TO wake up and TO need to nurse.

So in the interest of getting better, we are starting something similar. I haven't read Gordon's plan but will when I have time. But from 12-4 last night, no nursing. She woke and I was always able to comfort her back to sleep. I don't even think she knew she was awake some of the times. Once she fell back asleep draped over me and on her knees.

We are just going to give all of us that one block of time.

My dd is in very low weight and NOT into solids much at all. Doc is concerned about he place on the chart, so I always nursed whenever because of her weight issue.

But we have to try this... we need to get better. We are sick zombies. Any advice or encouragement is going to be much needed.
Hello! I don't blame you at all for needing your rest and your health back. I don't think I fully realized what a zombie state I was in until I got sick also. It's as if all those months of rotten sleep come crashing down on you when you're physically sick like that. For me, it was the shove I needed to do this.

It sounds like things went well for you last night - that's awesome! I think being able to comfort them back to sleep ANY way without the boob and without much crying is a success. Also, I can so understand what you mean when you said that you are inadvertently training her TO wake up and TO need to nurse, although I'm all for feeding on demand (just not at night anymore!). I have always been a huge fan of co-sleeping, but recently (since I've realized my zombie-ness), I see that it has - I don't want to say "flaws," but perhaps consequences (I need a better, more positive word here). I still think it's wonderful, I love to snuggle DS and co-sleeping makes babies feels secure and all of that warm fuzzy stuff, but IME, it doesn't make for a super restful night's sleep! I know there are people out there who co-sleep and are rested, but I've just never met any of them (except for Alegna, of course - though I've never actually met her)!!

About your DD being low in weight - it's so interesting because a pp said the complete opposite - that she had heard that babies that wake and nurse a lot at night are releasing certain hormones that make it hard for them to gain weight (or something along those lines), so it seems that either way - nursing a lot at night or not nursing at all - causes worry about low weight. Who knows, if the above is true, maybe not nursing at night will actually help your DD to gain weight? I don't know if your DD will be like my DS, but he was not into solids at all until around 11-12 months and even then, "into" solids means a few bites here and there - more like nibbling or sampling, not the scarfing that I see other babies do! I bet your DD will gradually start getting more interested in solids - especially if she's not nursing at night. If she seems to be happy and healthy with going for that stretch at night without milk, it would seem that it's all good, right?

Good luck to you and I hope you guys fell better and get some sleep.
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My dd is in very low weight and NOT into solids much at all. Doc is concerned about he place on the chart, so I always nursed whenever because of her weight issue.

But we have to try this... we need to get better. We are sick zombies. Any advice or encouragement is going to be much needed.
Ya know, its interesting, because I have had alot of the same issues with my son. He 's also always been very tiny (weight, not height). Who knows if its just normal for him or if maybe there is a connection between nursing often in the night (because here is not the first place I have heard that mentioned before). Also hadn't been into solids too much until I started putting the limits on nursing at night. And, I am also recently away from him for five hours everyday now for work(dh got laid off so he is with ds AND HE EATS!) Hmmm.

So anyway, here's what we did for the sick stuff, because I especially was getting viruses back to back and feeling crappy all the time. Started seeing the chiropractor again consisently...all three of us. Haven't been sick since, about 6 mos ago. So that helped. Started taking more cod liver oil, probiotics, and extra iron supplement in addition to my multi. This all helped the immunity thing as well as my energy. And the clo and prob for ds too. Ok, then, when we were ready, we started the sleep plan (very modified). For us, we needed to almost completely take me out of the picture or ds was going bizerko by me telling him no nursies. So, him and dh cosleep in our extra bedroom, one on mattress, one on floor - ds surprisinly chooses the floor very adamantly sometimes according to dh. ??? And, he only brings ds in to me if he is losing it for more than an hour. But, that really has only happened one time, and I think it's either teething fever or maybe a real sickness w/fever...??? So, otherwise, its worked for us. But, consider going about it in the most gentle way possible since yours is still so young. I considered doing this since ds was about 10 mos and have ultimately waited this long because I really didn't feel he was ready. And, still, he ISN'T ready for me to help him back to sleep without nursing, he just allows dh to it. So, just trust your gut - I am sure you'll know when he really "needs" it or not and if he's allowing you to comfort him back to sleep other ways...wow...thats just amazing. Roll with that, regardless of him being a month too young, yk? IMO. Just use your instincts. I know its hard not to get adequate sleep for so long. I am finally starting to feel like a normal thinking person again...its been a while.
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NIGHT EIGHT!! Well, I think I'll call it progress! DS woke up twice before we got to bed, which was great so I felt good about him eating before the window of sleep. And, he didn't wake up again when we came to bed - I think he is starting to sleep harder AND longer. He woke up again at 2:30am and tried for milk in his usual way - same thing, he fussed for as long as it took me to put my hand on him. I massaged him and told him that the milkies were night night. He rolled over and looked like he was asleep again, but then he woke up and sat up (he usually always sits up when he's really awake). I laid him down and rubbed him and kissed him again and he rolled over again, but then sat up 10 minutes later. This went on for about an hour and then he finally really fell asleep. Then, he didn't wake up until 5:30am, so I nursed him both sides (still no barfing!) and he fell asleep again until 6:45am. When he nurses in the morning now, it's hard for me to sleep through it (which I could usually do before) because he's on there for about 20 minutes or so, but it's fine since I know we get to go back to sleep for a bit.

So, even though it took longer than usual for him to go back to sleep when he woke up, he only woke up ONCE during the window, so that feels like a step in the right direction DS seems to really like to wake around 2am, so hopefully we can phase that out. I have to say that even though I didn't get a big, long stretch last night, I do feel more rested in general, which is a nice change.
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I think what I am doing more than anything is weaning myself. I am absolutely for whatever anyone wants to do regarding night nursing and co-sleeping. But I think that I have trained myself as much to nurse her even when she might not need it. Last night, she nursed last at 10:30 and then even though she woke a few times, she was very easily put back to sleep by my sitting up with her and patting her. She fell asleep on me and then I just rolled her onto the bed. By 4:15 this morning, when she woke, I fed her.

I wish though I had woken on my own and fed her before she cried. What I want to break pattern wise at night is that she cries and then gets fed. So this morning, she did get fed after crying but it was time to feed her I think. She went back to sleep easily after nursing briefly.

I really think the most difficult part of all of this is trying to sort out what the baby needs and what we think they need... I know for me personally, I trained myself to feed her before she even really asked to be fed. IT's just a hunch that this is what has happened and I feel confirmed by how relatively easy it's been to get her to go back to sleep with patting and rocking and other comfort.

But I am open. If she gets sick or has teeth coming in, I will not adhere to a rigid schedule. But I think my first response from now on in our little window will not be to nurse first. we will see...
post #51 of 193
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Also, I can so understand what you mean when you said that you are inadvertently training her TO wake up and TO need to nurse, although I'm all for feeding on demand (just not at night anymore!). I have always been a huge fan of co-sleeping, but recently (since I've realized my zombie-ness), I see that it has - I don't want to say "flaws," but perhaps consequences (I need a better, more positive word here). I still think it's wonderful, I love to snuggle DS and co-sleeping makes babies feels secure and all of that warm fuzzy stuff, but IME, it doesn't make for a super restful night's sleep! I know there are people out there who co-sleep and are rested, but I've just never met any of them (except for Alegna, of course - though I've never actually met her)!!
I appreciate how hard it might have been to find the right words to post some of this. I frankly feel the pressure to co-sleep and nurse on demand all night creates tremendous stress for many moms. I see it in the posts here. And I see me becoming one of those moms who feels she can't do it differently. I nurse on demand in the daytime. We have lovely nursing naps. I will not let those go or change that. But I need a whole fresh new approach to night time. And I respect whatever choices people make. I will not CIO. But I think I can find other ways to comfort her and help her sleep. If she ever can't be comforted, I will after a time, feed her. But I just can't nurse her at the slightest whimper anymore at night.

I hope this means my daughter might show more interest in food. Her repertoire is so limited. Anything green goes from her tray right over the edge to the dog. Every delicious concoction I come up with she rejects. Her only delight is vanilla yogurt and mandarins. I give her mandarins even though it's a bit early for citrus because she totally loves them. I spike the yogurt with oatmeal and flaxseed oil. And she eats freeze dried fruit. But this is more or less it. sometimes I can sneak in other stuff, but nothing she has taken a huge fancy to.
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I think what I am doing more than anything is weaning myself. I am absolutely for whatever anyone wants to do regarding night nursing and co-sleeping. But I think that I have trained myself as much to nurse her even when she might not need it. Last night, she nursed last at 10:30 and then even though she woke a few times, she was very easily put back to sleep by my sitting up with her and patting her. She fell asleep on me and then I just rolled her onto the bed. By 4:15 this morning, when she woke, I fed her.

I wish though I had woken on my own and fed her before she cried. What I want to break pattern wise at night is that she cries and then gets fed. So this morning, she did get fed after crying but it was time to feed her I think. She went back to sleep easily after nursing briefly.

I really think the most difficult part of all of this is trying to sort out what the baby needs and what we think they need... I know for me personally, I trained myself to feed her before she even really asked to be fed. IT's just a hunch that this is what has happened and I feel confirmed by how relatively easy it's been to get her to go back to sleep with patting and rocking and other comfort.

But I am open. If she gets sick or has teeth coming in, I will not adhere to a rigid schedule. But I think my first response from now on in our little window will not be to nurse first. we will see...
I totally know what you mean - it feels so strange to NOT just offer the boob immediately, but then it feels so awesome and empowering (IMO) to be able to soothe DS without it. I'm so happy that your DD is able to go back to sleep without the breast and without much crying. I think that's a prime situation.

Going through this (and deciding to) has made me shift some of my thoughts about parenting and babies needs vs. wants. I still feel that babies wants and needs are the same thing in that first year and am happy I could give DS whatever he needed. But, as he's older, more communicative and can understand more of what I tell him, I am realizing that I need to be setting some boundaries so that I don't go crazy! You're right, it is quite a shift going from doing everything your baby wants to learning how to say yes to some things, but not all. And, to not feel guilty about it.

On a similar note, I was complaining to my DS the other day that even the littlest tasks seem so hard to get done with DS around - like folding laundry, for example. I told him that I could just park myself and fold the laundry and let DS run around and play like he does, but there is something in me that feels guilty for not interacting with him 100% of the time. And, when I say it out loud, it sounds totally irrational - it's good for DS to not always be entertained by someone all day, but it's hard for me not to feel like a neglectful parent sometimes even if I'm just taking five minutes to get something done. Maybe that's just my personality. But, it's kinda like night weaning - I give DS so much during the day (all you can eat breastfeeding, a constant playmate, fun classes together, etc.) that I'm not going to feel guilty for wanting 7 hours to sleep at night! But, it's hard not to (for me, at least).

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I appreciate how hard it might have been to find the right words to post some of this. I frankly feel the pressure to co-sleep and nurse on demand all night creates tremendous stress for many moms. I see it in the posts here. And I see me becoming one of those moms who feels she can't do it differently. I nurse on demand in the daytime. We have lovely nursing naps. I will not let those go or change that. But I need a whole fresh new approach to night time. And I respect whatever choices people make. I will not CIO. But I think I can find other ways to comfort her and help her sleep. If she ever can't be comforted, I will after a time, feed her. But I just can't nurse her at the slightest whimper anymore at night.

I hope this means my daughter might show more interest in food. Her repertoire is so limited. Anything green goes from her tray right over the edge to the dog. Every delicious concoction I come up with she rejects. Her only delight is vanilla yogurt and mandarins. I give her mandarins even though it's a bit early for citrus because she totally loves them. I spike the yogurt with oatmeal and flaxseed oil. And she eats freeze dried fruit. But this is more or less it. sometimes I can sneak in other stuff, but nothing she has taken a huge fancy to.
I also know what you mean about the posts here sometimes making these things more stressful. I love MDC and think it's an amazing resource, but yeah, sometimes I just have to log off for a while because it can be daunting to be reading about the MOST natural food, toys, sleeping situations, babywearing vs. strollers, etc. It's sometimes hard not to think of it as a measuring stick, like, if another mom has the energy to wake up three times a night to nurse and her baby is two, am I failing because I'm at the end of my rope and my DS is only 13 months? The answer is, of course, no!

I am there with ya about the solids too. My DS was really starting to get into solids about a month ago and then he has been on this hunger strike and way more into seeing what it feels like to smash and flick things onto the floor. And oh man it can be so irritating when you've come up with all these great foods for them and then they just dump them out. I have had to breathe very deeply a few times (more than a few times!) this week.

Thanks for posting - it seems like you and I are on the same page here.
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Just a quick question... DS has been sleeping longer and harder before we come to bed these past few days and if he doesn't naturally wake up when we come to bed, what are your thoughts about me waking him up to give him one big feed before bed in hopes of keeping him fuller longer (maybe this is considered a "dream feed")? If night weaning is causing him to sleep longer and harder (which is great!), I don't want to screw that up by waking him up, but I also don't want him to wake up super hungry in the middle of the night (although I know technically he can go all night without milk). Thoughts? TIA
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Unknowingly I've been doing this with ds for 5 months or so. He's 2.5 and still doesn't fall asleep on his own. He will cry for half an hour or more demanding to nurse. Occasionally we have a lucky night in which ds doesn't wake up and we don't have to go through this.

I've got such a hard headed little boy!
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Thank You SO much for this journal. I was just looking up how to wean gently. My DD is also 13 months and I really do need sleep! I did the routine last night and she woke up and I fed her for about 4 mins or so. Then I gently pulled her off. She cried and fussed on and off for 30 mins. All the time I comforted her and finally sang her to sleep.

Again she woke up in her 7 hour block. I fed her again, only slightly less and she bearly even fussed, then rolled over and slept. She nursed pretty well after her 7 hour block was up when she woke again and then fell asleep for a little longer. I'm debating towards moving straight to no nurse during the 7 hours or do 2 more days of a little nursing.

Thanks for this thread! I really need this!
K
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Thank You SO much for this journal. I was just looking up how to wean gently. My DD is also 13 months and I really do need sleep! I did the routine last night and she woke up and I fed her for about 4 mins or so. Then I gently pulled her off. She cried and fussed on and off for 30 mins. All the time I comforted her and finally sang her to sleep.

Again she woke up in her 7 hour block. I fed her again, only slightly less and she bearly even fussed, then rolled over and slept. She nursed pretty well after her 7 hour block was up when she woke again and then fell asleep for a little longer. I'm debating towards moving straight to no nurse during the 7 hours or do 2 more days of a little nursing.

Thanks for this thread! I really need this!
K
You may be surprised that she doesn't fuss all that much with no nursing at all during that time since you've gradually shortened her time nursing and she seems to be okay with it Sometimes babies' adaptability blows me away. Good luck and I'd love to know how it goes for you!
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Unknowingly I've been doing this with ds for 5 months or so. He's 2.5 and still doesn't fall asleep on his own. He will cry for half an hour or more demanding to nurse. Occasionally we have a lucky night in which ds doesn't wake up and we don't have to go through this.

I've got such a hard headed little boy!
Wow - all I have for you is !
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Unknowingly I've been doing this with ds for 5 months or so. He's 2.5 and still doesn't fall asleep on his own. He will cry for half an hour or more demanding to nurse. Occasionally we have a lucky night in which ds doesn't wake up and we don't have to go through this.

I've got such a hard headed little boy!
yeah, this would be us, I am SURE if it wasn't for dh taking over in the other bedroom during the nighttime...when we started this over two weeks ago I was finally relieved, yet shocked he didn't NEED me. Every night is different of course, but I am so happy that we are on the right path finally...
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Just a quick question... DS has been sleeping longer and harder before we come to bed these past few days and if he doesn't naturally wake up when we come to bed, what are your thoughts about me waking him up to give him one big feed before bed in hopes of keeping him fuller longer (maybe this is considered a "dream feed")? If night weaning is causing him to sleep longer and harder (which is great!), I don't want to screw that up by waking him up, but I also don't want him to wake up super hungry in the middle of the night (although I know technically he can go all night without milk). Thoughts? TIA
Based on no experience with this really, I say gently wake him. If you son is like my DD, they don't really totally wake up and nurse in their sleep.

But you could first try to see how he does without. If it makes the rest of your block harder, I say go to waking him.

For now, I am electing to "wake" DD before her window if she hasn't woken up. For me, this goes back to trying to break the cycle of she cries and I feed. Which sort of is a negative followed by positive reinforcement. I would rather there be positive followed by positive. Head off hunger and the negative before it presents and just offer something positive.

But like everything in this, it's trial and error... But my daughter is younger so I am more inclined to wake. If she were older, not sure how I feel...
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NIGHT NINE!! I last nursed DS at 7:15pm and then 9:45pm. When DH and I came to bed, we had to slightly move DS (like usual) and again he didn't wake up like he usually does. It's great to see him sleeping deeper! I didn't wake him to nurse again. When he woke up in the night, I looked at the clock and it was 4:15am!!!! Last night he skipped the 2:15 waking (at least for now - I know it could come back)! That is the longest sleep I've had in over a year.

So, when DS woke up at 4:15am, I patted him until he fell asleep. Again, barely any fussing. He fell asleep and woke back up around 5:30am. I nursed him one side and he slept until 6:20am, then we did the other side and he woke up for good.

I'd love to say that I don't feel tired at all today, but I am still sleepy and DH still got up with DS this morning and gave me a nap for an hour (which he does almost everyday - I love DH!). I'm going to be so bummed if I don't feel less tired after this night weaning and getting 6-7 hours of straight sleep. For those who've done it, does it take some time to "refuel" before you felt a difference?

Bottom line... last night was a major success!!!! :
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