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Poll Results: Could you live in a house full of bugs?

 
  • 3% (9)
    yes
  • 96% (224)
    no
233 Total Votes  
post #81 of 96
haven't read the whole thread but heres a link of the springtails. BEWARE LOTS OF BUGS
http://www.whatsthatbug.com/springtails.html
post #82 of 96
I googled springtail extermination and found this article: http://www.bugspray.com/article/springtail.html Sounds like getting rid of them is a long term project with lots of toxic chemicals, but I would rather do that then sell the house to some other people and stick them with the problem.
post #83 of 96
No I could not and would not.
post #84 of 96
No - your decription freaks me out. I know that all homes have bugs - but you don't usually see them THAT much, right?! Out of sight, out of mind, lol!
post #85 of 96
This made me think of that Oprah episode when she went to this colonial time village for a week or something and it showed how the flies were EVERYWHERE around them while they ate. I just could not do it. I usually do not mind bugs too much but inside my hoem is a different story, so I can understand hwo it must make you feel! When we were homeless a couple years back we had to deal with bugs EVERYWHERE around our food, beds, etc... (we lived in tents) and I know for me one of the best parts of moving into tsi apartment was NO MORE BUGS! Hugs to you! Hope your home sells soon!
post #86 of 96
Thread Starter 
Thank you CathMac!! I really really appreciate the info you have posted.... I have made my dh read both of your posts! We are now looking at other options based on what the actual facts are.....


Thank you Mamas for all the great encouraging words. I appreciate this community so much and just absolutely love being apart of MDC.... I am here everyday to learn from all the great caring Mamas on here and enjoy the constant love and support that I have received and given for the last year and a half.
post #87 of 96
OMG,OMG I could not live with bugs like that! Those things look creepy!

Mama, that would affect me emotionally too!

That being said, I do think it is unethical to sell the house without disclosing the bug issue.

I would be interested to know:

Do your neighbors or other people in your area have this problem too?

If yes, it might just be one of things that happens in your area, if no, there is a problem with your house.
post #88 of 96
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JennaW View Post
OMG,OMG I could not live with bugs like that! Those things look creepy!

Mama, that would affect me emotionally too!

That being said, I do think it is unethical to sell the house without disclosing the bug issue.

I would be interested to know:

Do your neighbors or other people in your area have this problem too?

If yes, it might just be one of things that happens in your area, if no, there is a problem with your house.
Yes... this is a problem with my area.... from what I am have heard it is not completely uncommon...
post #89 of 96
Thread Starter 
Okay.... I have to address the flamming and name calling of me being unethical.... I would never do anything unethical as I have very high moral and values....

My dh and I have been talking about this since I originally posted.... I have to agree with him on many points... I have a VERY VERY sensitive eye for these things... he has only seen a few bugs.... when I see many...
in addition.... not one single specialist that has been here has ever said that we have a serious issue with the bugs... with most they can't even find them....okay.... maybe I am a bit crazy .... I don't know... could be I guess.... I definitely see them and experience them and hate them...... hmmmmmmm.... maybe now is a good time to mention I have some huge issues with OCD.....

Anyway......I will definitely do everything in this process in a ethical manner.... I may be a bit crazy... but unethical.... definitely not.
post #90 of 96
The fact that this is a common problem in your area eases my mind a little bit about the disclosure issue, if you have buyers from within the same area, they may expect the bugs. Do you plan on moving to a new area?

As far as being called "unethical" I don't think anyone is calling you directly unethical at this point. I do think people are expressing their opinion that if you were to sell this house during a time when the bugs were not in season and purposefully not disclose about the bug season, that would be unethical because you would be with-holding information that for many people, would be very important to know. This is my opinion, however, if this is truly a seasonal problem for most residents in your area, then I think the importance of the disclosure is a little bit different.

I know we all don't disclose every little thing about our houses when we sell them but something like a re-occuring seasonal bug infestation is a big deal (obviously, look at the stress it is causing you!).

Most of us don't know what it is like to be in your shoes and I don't think anyone is trying to point the finger. I realize you are just trying to do what is best for your family. But to an outsider (which we all are), selling a house that has a re-occuring seasonal bug infestation without disclosing that information, is wrong. Sometimes we need another set of eyes to assess the situation, even if its not what we want to hear.

post #91 of 96
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Originally Posted by RachelS View Post
The bugs are EVERYWHERE!..... on the floors and walls, in my childrens tubs of toys, in our drawers, in the kitchen cuboards, on the kitchen table, in the linens....
i guess this could mean different things. i could honestly say i've found bugs in my closet, in my dresser, on my bed, in my bathroom, in my little boy's room, in a basket of my baby's clothes (he has no dresser). it sounds really bad, but that was one bug in each of those places at one time or another.

i took your post to mean, at any given time during the height of the infestation, the bugs are present in your living spaces. they're visible on the floors and walls, in the cupboards and drawers, not hard to find. if that's not the case - if it's a bug here and a bug there, where maybe you see a few over the course of an entire day - i wouldn't call that an infestation.

that's still gross and would still give me major heebie jeebies (because i'd be constantly on guard, expecting to see them everywhere), so i'm not trying to negate your feelings, but . . . how bad is it, really? does your home become infested, or do a few bugs get in? if the pest people don't think you have an infestation and sometimes can't even find any bugs (am i understanding that correctly?), maybe they're right.
post #92 of 96
Under no circumstances could I live in a house full of bugs. Uggh.
post #93 of 96
no.freaking.way

And I would take legal action against someone who sold me the house without informing me of the full extent of the problem. I think you should look into doing the same if it is still possible after 4 years.
post #94 of 96
OK. So if several professional exterminators have told you there is not a serious problem, AND you say you have a strong OCD situation (I am assuming that it is actually diagnosed) -- then while I could not live in a house 'full of bugs,' it sounds like you may be the only one perceiving it as 'full' of them. And clicking on links may be just winding you up further, not helping you get a realistic view of the situation.

I'm not sure what the actual problem is either, from your OP. Is your DH proposing to sell the house and you are resisting b/c you feel it is infested? I don't have a handle on what you would like to have happen.

Are you in any kind of therapy for the OCD situation? If so have you considered chatting w/your counselor about it? IF you think it might help. Good luck selling, in any case!
post #95 of 96
Quote:
Originally Posted by RachelS View Post
Thank you CathMac!! I really really appreciate the info you have posted.... I have made my dh read both of your posts! We are now looking at other options based on what the actual facts are...
Quote:
Originally Posted by RachelS View Post
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My dh and I have been talking about this since I originally posted.... I have to agree with him on many points... I have a VERY VERY sensitive eye for these things... he has only seen a few bugs.... when I see many...
in addition.... not one single specialist that has been here has ever said that we have a serious issue with the bugs... with most they can't even find them....okay.... maybe I am a bit crazy .... I don't know... could be I guess.... I definitely see them and experience them and hate them...... hmmmmmmm.... maybe now is a good time to mention I have some huge issues with OCD..... ...
RachelS,
I'm glad you found my input helpful. Now may be a good time to mention that I handled Real Estate Errors and Omissions (malpractice) claims as an adjuster for an insurance company for awhile. I may have even handled some claims in Ohio but it was a long time ago so any feedback from me is no substitute for consulting with a practicing attorney in your jurisdiction.

I'm glad the scope of the problem may not be quite as bad as your initial description suggested. (Although I suspect it's bad enough if you have to cover things up while you are cooking, as you described.) However, unless you are a hyper sensitive "Felix Unger" type then most of what I said earlier probably still applies. There are enough people that are creeped out by bugs that it very likely affects the value of your property. Even people that aren't bothered themselves are aware that others are and would be concerned about resale value for that reason. Not to mention that even a minor infestation may suggest a water problem with the potential to get worse.

Unfortunately unless you had an inspection in the first year and the infestation was bad enough to create the inference that it wasn't a new problem, then you may have a hard time establishing that the problem pre-existed your ownership and that the previous owners should have known about it.

On the other hand, depending upon the underlying reason it's entirely possible that it's worse some years and better during others. For instance if you were to learn that it's primarily because of a nearby spring you might find that it is worse during rainy years. So if the first year you were there it was relatively dry then it would make sense that you wouldn't find out until a year when it was rainy. Which would be good news since arguably the statute didn't start running until you discovered the problem and you might still be able to make a claim based on intentional misrepresentation, in addition to breach of contract.

In any event, even if the bugs themselves are more of a nuisance than anything I'd recommend getting to the bottom of it to make sure the underlying problem isn't serious ... while you may still have time to pursue a remedy against the seller, and possibly any sellers' agents.

I should note that any agents may have been on constructive notice if the neighborhood was known to have a problem. So I'd try to find out if others in your neighborhood have the same problem and while you are at it see if anyone remembers the previous owners having a problem. Also, you might try asking any inspectors or pest companies if they have any records for the previous owners.

And contact a few attorneys ASAP. Many attorneys will give a free initial consultation.

But please, do not stick your head in the sand and tell yourself it isn't that bad; and hope it gets better or at least doesn't get worse.

Good luck and keep us posted.
~Cath
post #96 of 96
Rachel, you're not crazy! I would be really freaked out also...mind you, I have a horrible phobia. I'm not sure I'd ever be able to come back in the house. I could NEVER live in the south with all the critters that live down there.
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