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post #1 of 13
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Hi,
I am currently compiling a book to aid new fathers in navigating the huge life transition that is fathering. I would very much appreciate hearing about - and sharing - the stuff that is most challenging for us.

What has been the hardest form you? Ever resented the baby? Missed your pasrtner? Wanted to return to the old days and ways? Had fights with family/friends? Lost family/friends?

I'm hoping to identify common threads and themes to help address the current challenges for men wishing to father well. Your honesty is appreciated.

many thanks,
Derek, father of the remarkable Maya (4)
post #2 of 13
Would you like me to write the book for you. ROFL

I was 27 when I became a Dad. I met my SM and she had 3 wonderful children and then about a year and a half later we had a baby boy together.

We now have an 8 yr old boy, 6 yr old girl, 3 yr old boy, and 18 month old boy. The 3 yr old is globally developmentally delayed. He is just now catching (and I say this with a grin) and surpassing his younger brother.

Anyway, I think that hardest part is trying to find a parenting style that suits both of our needs. I believe that children don't need to have us hold their hands all of the time, and have a lot of structure. she believes that the structure should be up to the children. We are home schooler, delving into Unschooling.

I was just the average bachelor, bouncing from place to place, and living without anyone depending on me. Now i have people depending on me for everything.

I am the posterboy for your book. ROFL.. let me know if you need more.
post #3 of 13
How to deal with and keep the sleepless cranky Mommy happy without making things worse.
post #4 of 13
Finding the balance between being needed and being under-foot. Yes, I am talking about us Dad's.
post #5 of 13
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post #6 of 13
Finding ways of being home more, working at a job less and still making ends meet. Unschooling the kids. Writing more while doing the above. Giving Mama the break time that keeps her sane while doing the above. Being very present in all their lives. Bucking the system that tells me because I am male, I cannot be doing the above. That I need to just work 40 plus hours and be OK with not seeing my kids. That my pride should come from working a job and not from direct support of my family (ie. changing and washing diapers, cleaning, reading books to my children, etc.). Working a job is direct support of someone's profit, not my family. My time is what I most try to budget and how to put more of it into the home and all it includes instead of a workspace away from home. It is a tricky and elusive balance.
post #7 of 13
The #1 toughest thing for me has been sharing my wife. We've always been very close and had a long relationship prior to children. When the children came along, I had to share her. That's been the toughest. I often find myself getting jealous.
post #8 of 13
Having a sick child that may have problems and not being able to do anything about it.

I was lucky though, I was told my youngest may have had an issue but the doctor was wrong.
post #9 of 13
A momma chiming in with some tidbits:

1.Defining what is helpful and what is not for Momma in very specific terms. Momma isn't getting a break when you constantly ask for help or call her to come see how cute LO is. I know how cute LO is, I see her ALL DAY and most of the night. And I trust DH to figure it out, by the time I get a break, I am so beyond whether or not her diaper is changed in the 'correct' manner.

2.Granted this is a book that dads will be reading, but my non-reading DH does not listen to me when I explain that some things are done with safety in mind. He thinks I'm making it up or something equally bizarre. To wit our lengthy conversation as to why a baby is not to be face down on a pillow top mattress when swaddled with no arms free. So covering basic safety stuff would be great. Or at least pointing out that momma has read 25 books to Dad's one (or 60 pages of one in DH's case).

3. Bullet point lists highlighting/summarizing key concepts so non reading Dads can get at least that much. I have noticed lots of mommas lamenting that DH doesn't read or won't read any baby books. Of course all the dads here read, but they are a minority.

4. I would love an author who would do a Babycenter type newsletter for Dads. For Dads by Dads with games, hints, milestones,and parenting tips. There's nothing out there, that I've noticed, for Dads.

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post #10 of 13
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How to deal with and keep the sleepless cranky Mommy happy without making things worse.
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post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by derek scott View Post
Had fights with family? Lost family?

I'm hoping to identify common threads and themes to help address the current challenges for men wishing to father well. Your honesty is appreciated.
When my wife and I married it started a few problems, we eloped. My in-laws were not informed. My MIL and I have been butted heads even before we were married. So that has made something even harder. I felt there were times when my MIL has overstepped the line. I have felt that she made decisions for us that may have impacted us financially and did so without informing us until afterwards.

Shortly after we had married we were informed that my wifes family had purchased a health insurance policy for her, this was laid out to us by MIL while FIL was there but didn't interact. (Normal Pattern for them) We were not consulted, nor were we even asked if we would be interested. On another occasion MIL removed a large portion of money from an account while we were out of town and "couldn't reach you" - even though the phone #'s we left were still hanging on the fridge 3 years later. Long and short of it I find it nearly impossible to trust MIL. FIL is a different story, great guy, good hearted and helpful. But my feelings and our interactions with MIL have created a LARGE amount of tension between my DW (and yes she is very dear) and I. I know that I am very much like my MIL. If it needs done then let's do it, oh your not ready? Well too bad it is getting done.

My wife and I separated when DD was 5 months old. I am at fault, no one else not my wife, she's always been great even when I didn't see it. Much of the reason we separated were that I wanted control and was going to have it my way. Much like I see MIL doing. Long and short of it is that I can not see how MIL and I are ever going to make a mends. Where we won't find ourself at odds with each other.

Things with DW seemed to be on the mend, but I have doubts about my ability to continue to endure what I see as manipulation by my MIL. We have been separated nearly 3 months, we are talking, we are working on things together, we spend time with each other, we want to do what is best for our DD, and we know we want to find common ground to bring our family back under one roof. At least that is what I was feeling, reading and having indicated to me by DW.

Today the topic of getting a health insurance policy for DD came up. Right off the bat I was on the defensive. I know it was a reaction to the last insurance policy suprise. DW said she'd called for info on it, I said I didn't find that believable based on the past problems with MIL. DW said that it was her idea, after asking if anyone or MIL had given input prior or prompting to the call, she indicated MIL might have said something.

DD currently has health coverage. Costing us nothing. No deductible, No co-pays, great coverage. Choice of Dr.'s.

My problem with this whole things is that MIL, who manages all their family money issues, as I see it is trying to do that here. She isn't looking at what we know about our current coverage or what the effect might be on our small pocketbook.

The new policy is an 80/20 with a 500 deductible. Conservite figures are around $1300 more per year out of our pocket. Right now DW and I are both verily making it - we are both living in 2 different places, 3 cars, gas, car insurance, tags, etc. So adding this kind of burden to our backs seems to me to be a foolish thing to do, and very intrusive.

Overall the intrusiveness has not been an ongoing thing, but when it happens it is a big one. IL's are good people, regular church attenders, involved in local school, girl and boy scouts and much more. What I have a hard time dealing with is that they don't talk to both of us, even when we were living in the same house. We've explained how we are trying to reconcile, FIL is working with in that framework. I think MIL is working just the opposite, MIL did offer to help with a divorce if my wife wanted it. No conversation on talking with our minister, counseling or the like, just straight to divorce. This indicates to me that MIL is still working to see MIL's desire for us not to be married.

Now with DD in the picture this is even harder, we've cut MIL off from our life for 3 months about 2 years ago. We don't see that as an option and therefor we feel frustrated. My DW is at odds with me of MIL, DW feels I am "jaded" in regards to MIL. Which is true!!! I look back and see the past performance and hear those commercials for stocks, past performance does not indicate future returns, and I think YEA RIGTHT!

I'd say that finding a balance between our family and IL's is the hardest.

As for friends, varies some are still there, but they have children and of course that means that their world is tied up also. No blame on them, just facts.

Sorry for the Rant.
post #12 of 13

Balancing act

This is the husband of Mammo2Sammo...
I have a five-year-old and a two-year-old, and so many things were so hard for so long... to sum up, though, I would say learning to balance things: energy and commitment to work vs. time at home with family; personal time vs. family time; loving and play vs. limits and discipline; etc., etc.
One thing that was tough was when I realized that as a dad, I was going to get zero credit for making some tough decisions and sacrifices. It's hard not to feel excluded from the mom-child circle, especially in the beginning. But it takes a real personal transformation to become a full part of a family unit, instead of just remaining centered on yourself... but that's also part of maturing as a human being.
The other, maybe hardest thing is coming to terms with things you can't control. My two year old, for example, was a breech baby, so we had to have a C-section, which devastated my wife (I don't think she'll ever get over it); he had severe jaundice when he was born; and he's had awful food intolerances ever since (there are few things he can safely eat). It's a truly horrible feeling not being able to "fix" things, especially as a dad, because we like to see ourselves as providers and protectors, even if it's a bit deluded.
Just some thoughts.
post #13 of 13
dear KSD..
hang in there.. it is tough but then again..
you are right.. keep dd in mind... try to make up.
your MIL can be keep away from your personal family things
and she should be kept away. it can't be any other way for the
family sake.

you can make an effort for civilized relationship with MIL
and your wife should see more clearly what is best for HER famly
either have her mom as her husband or you.

she needs you there every day and each day you are away from the famly
will leave deep mark in her for ever.

once back in one budget one home you should be able to make it.
you guys might want to go counceling and have someone to tell you both
what is right and what is wrong and having anybody else run youru family
is wrong if your wife needs to hear that.. and you letting your hating anybody stay away from your dearest people in your life is not right either.

hugs. do what is right come back to them.
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