I am glad you found out about the English history of circumcision. The history is very interesting, I don' know if you can get the book over there- but "The History of Circumcision" by David Gollaher is really fascinating. Also there is an article on CIRP that will help out.http://www.cirp.org/library/history/gollaher/
I guess I just want to encourage you to spread the word among your peers... I have encountered some attitudes online from overseas that took a really arrogant attitude of "That is so disgusting and barbaric, I don't know what is wrong with you people." Well, although I kind of feel the same way- I wish that Americans could get a more compassionate and helpful encouragemnt from the Brits.
Info like... "My dad was intact and his dad was circumcised and there were no isues at all with them not looking alike... it's non issue, don't worry about it."
"My circumcised grandpa didn't have any trouble raising an intact boy, he didn't need to "teach" him anything."
"Our culture went from embracing circumcision to totally rejecting it and FORGETING that we ever had embraced it- within a single generation... circumcision does not have a very deep hold on culture. Your culture is your culture, and when you stop cutting a baby's penis- it is gone out of the next generation. Circumcision is not culture."
The British people were very lucky in that they had a national health care system that basicly took the reins and aid, "Our nation will not be circumcising anymore unless absolutley needed."
This 1949 article was the one that did it.http://www.cirp.org/library/general/gairdner/
If that hadn't happened, or worse- if the system had decided to implement universal circumcision (something that both of our countries have gotten dangerously close to)... you would probably have the same or higher circumcision rate that we have here.
Jonathan Hutchinson was the PRESIDENT of the Royal College of Surgeons... well
"Hutchinson is hard to beat when it comes to presidencies: president of the Pathological Society 1879-1880, president of the Ophthalmological Society of Great Britain 1884-1885, president of the Royal College of Surgeons 1889, president of the Neurological Society 1887, president of the Medical Society of London 1892, President of the Royal Medical and Chirurgical Society 1894-1896, and president of the International Dermatological Congress 1896. He was knighted for distinguished service to medicine when aged 80 years, in 1908."
Want to know what he said?
1891"Measures more radical than circumcision would, if public opinion permitted their adoption, be a true kindness to patients of both sexes."
Jonathan Hutchinson, On Circumcision as Preventative of Masturbation, Archives of Surgery, vol. 2 (1891): pp. 267-268.
Since there is no national health care system in our (US)immediate future- we could really use all the help we could get.
Really the "one" moment of my life more than anything else that made me an intactivist was once with a British lover I made a complimentary comment and he looked at me blankly not really understanding what I meant. I tried to clarify- "All my American boyfriends were circumcised." "WHAT ARE THEY ALL JEWS?" was his horrified reaction blood draining form his face reply... being a Jew was the only reason why he could imagine a man would be circumcised... "No, they just do it to all the babies here." He was horrified. It was the first time I saw a "normal" reaction to the horror of what we were doing here... not the reaction of a culture in shock, denial and helpless acceptance, I saw the real reaction of a person who had no reason to accept or pretend that it was OK. I knew about sex, I knew about art history, I knew about respecting a man... but I didn't know about the cultural trap we are in because we can not see ourselves for what we are doing. We need help. When I saw what a normal reaction looks like, I understood what a state of shock we are in.
How could an adult man not know about the situation facing the male babies in the USA? How could he also no know about how close he came (within 15 years) to being on the other side of the trend ended with the Gairdner paper.
Someone has got to tell the world that our babies need help because our parents are in shock. We need help to show us that we can get out of it. British guys have to speak up, say they don't have "problems" and "infections" and that they can get blow jobs and dates, and wear rubbers, and do any of the things a circumcised guy can do- and MORE. Liz Hurley has to open her sexy well paid mouth and say, "I don't think that cutting baby is a sexy thing to do."
(lol... so will you tell Liz the next time you see her!!!)
Someone over there should *out* the circumfetishist club from London who promotes circumcision to American Parents- "The Gilgal Society" Someone has got to find out about who is running their group and WHY. In the wake of the terrible tragedy of the boy in Ireland... how about some public outcry to expose these pedophile freaks who parade as medical advisors who make erotica out of the manipulation of parents and the cutting of heir children?
How about the Dutch manufacturer of diposable circumcision clamps "smartklamp" marketed to third world and muslim nations... Why does the Dutch website feature only smiling faces of children with dark skin? Where are the Dutch children? Why do Dutch people tolerate this?
How come the people of non-circumcising nations are not more helpful? Mostly, it's because i think they don't know. so let's speak up.
My mom was in Costa Rica and met a woman, from England, married to a German, she mentioned to the woman I was an anti-circumcision activist and the woman replied, "Oh yes, in Africa, the women, that's terrible." and my mother said... "No, in the USA, for our boys."
What about skin creams made with human foreskin? Are they approved in the UK yet? Have they gotten any press? Do British men know that this is going on?http://westorg.org/nl/featured_artic...lN_042203.html
I know thatt there are a lot of animal rights activists in England. Do they know that the "PC" alternative to animal testing is to test on skin product of engineered skin made from human foreskins? That the suffering of rabbits has been replaced with the byproduct of unanesthatized mutiltion of human beings?
tell your friends about the British history.
tell the men to speak out.
communicate with all the Americans you know.
Thanks for listening! I'm glad you know now.