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My child (5) is finishing up her 3-6 program in a MOntessori school about 30 min from our house. It is the only M school in our area that goes through 7th grade. we have been pleased with the school and this year we have seen her blossom and the fruits of the 3-6 cycle. However, the school seem s to be falling apart administratively and is having some problems. For example:

School accepted 5 students into the 3-6 program in February that are under the age of three, one who is autistic. These children are not normalized to the classroom, are disruptive to the other kids and often have toilet accidents. I feel that they have accepted these kids only for the money at this late date and it is distracting to the other teachers and interfering with the kids who are working. I spoke with the director and she told me that the kids were too young to start before February and would get used to the classroom. Huh??

Next year my child will be in 6-9 class (1st grade). This class has been taught by two veteran teacher up till this year. Now, one of the teachers will be leaving and another teacher-NOT certified in elementary MOntessori has been hired. She is "working" on her certification according to the director and is a certified upper elementary teacher in traditional school but has never taught at a MOntssori school before. The other veteran teacher who does mainly math and science is staying. I am concerned that my child will miss fundamental skills if the teachers are not on level in their teaching. This new teacher may very well be good, but she is not certified and has no MOntessori experience. The director is comfortable having her as a lead teacher despite this and claims it is impossible to find a teacher certified in elementary MOntessori in this area. Also, the kids in my child's class who will be going up to 6-9 are not the nicest kids- of the 7 kindy students, there are 4 girls, 2 are bullies and one follows them and then there is my girl who often plays alone or with little kids. Not s great social situation and all these kids are staying.

Finally, the 9-12 classroom has an assistant whose two girls are at the school. She is not certified in M and has no interest in becoming certified. She is nice, but makes comments to her daughters in a shouting voice that she will "beat their butts" when they get home etc. and doesn't seem to contribute much to that classroom but a warm body. Director has not problem with this and says she is there only to assist the teacher, not to teach. O.K. Additionally, the kids have been watching movies during recess- the last one was "Daddy Daycare" wth??? that is totally inappropriate and worthless mindless entertainment. Further, it should be the parent's choice if their child sees mainstream films. Director was upset about this one.

In short, my child LOVES this school. She would be sad to leave and go somewhere else. And there are many things I like about the school, but, I feel that the director is really letting things slide.. and I do not see this changing in the future. She is the sole owner and director of the school so she answers to no one but the parents- many of whom are leaving or considering leaving. I cannot say any longer that this is an excellent school where my daughter is getting the best education she could. Its an adequate school that has the potential to be soooo much more. I love the Montessori method and believe in it, but there are no other M schools within an hour of our home that continue past 3-6. So , I would have to try and get my child into a traditional private school (bad public schools in this area) where kids have lots of homework, stay in their seats, have a rushed lunch etc. The private $$$$$ school we looked at has a great art and cultural program and a lot to offer and is a great education, but its not M and has a very traditional and conservative slant. I am so torn and need to make a decision soon as registration is due. Can anyone give me some insight as to how you would handle this. Am I over reacting??? Or do I give up on M right now in the interest of giving her an education that will allow her to compete with other kids after she leaves it??
post #2 of 9
I think like anything, you need to look deep down and go with your instincts. Have you toured other school options in your area? That would be the first thing to do. Go tour. Schedule observations. See if you can "see" your daughter there. I think it's going to be hard to make a decision if you're not familiar with all of your options.

To me, the M school does sound like it has some issues and I'd be concerned if it is that multiple parents are expressing their concern to the directress and she is not doing anything about it. That just doesn't sit well with me. That and hiring a non M trained teacher. Maybe enough kids leaving will open her eyes, but it may end up being to late for it to change for your dd.
post #3 of 9
It sounds like now is a good time to evaluate all of your school options. The M school sounds like it has several serious issues, and so you should look at some other schools and weigh which school in your area would be the best available option. I'd go tour and then make a pros and cons sheet for each school. The M school may still be the best of what's available, or maybe not. You should also think about what's most important to you in terms of qualities.

A non M trained teacher who is working on training would be OK if -- the teacher has the right spirit/attitude. The movies and bad attitude of the 9-12 teacher sound bad, but is the lead teacher good? I would place more emphasis on the main teachers.

A not so great M school may be better than private school but you don't know for sure until you take a long hard look at each. (and any others).

In my book, it's the teachers that are most important. Have you met the new teacher yet who is not yet M trained? I'd try to talk to her and see if she's friendly and ask her how she likes M and how she is enjoying her training and her time so far. If she's negative about it that would be a big red flag.

Also - go observe the 6-9 class asap if you can. It sounds like the other 6-9 teacher is still experienced and staying, so that's good.

Best wishes. Let us know how it goes.
post #4 of 9
Not a complete answer yet, due to time constraints. I will answer more soon.

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Originally Posted by southernmama View Post

School accepted 5 students into the 3-6 program in February that are under the age of three, one who is autistic. These children are not normalized to the classroom, are disruptive to the other kids and often have toilet accidents. I feel that they have accepted these kids only for the money at this late date and it is distracting to the other teachers and interfering with the kids who are working. I spoke with the director and she told me that the kids were too young to start before February and would get used to the classroom. Huh??
They may get used to the classroom. What's even more important here is actually a valuable lesson your daughter can learn.

When I was in Montessori, our school had 3 children that had Down Syndrome. I remember this mainly because I can think back to what I learned about that. These children were a part of our classroom community. They were my friends. We understood that they were different, but it did not matter any more than the fact that I was different from another boy for having brown hair rather than blond hair.

I think we need to keep this in mind when we do have students with special needs in the classroom. What may seem like a difficult adjustment now will become something your child will learn to guage and adjust to and grow from. Assuming things are done properly, of course.

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Next year my child will be in 6-9 class (1st grade). This class has been taught by two veteran teacher up till this year. Now, one of the teachers will be leaving and another teacher-NOT certified in elementary MOntessori has been hired. She is "working" on her certification according to the director and is a certified upper elementary teacher in traditional school but has never taught at a MOntssori school before. The other veteran teacher who does mainly math and science is staying. I am concerned that my child will miss fundamental skills if the teachers are not on level in their teaching. This new teacher may very well be good, but she is not certified and has no MOntessori experience. The director is comfortable having her as a lead teacher despite this and claims it is impossible to find a teacher certified in elementary MOntessori in this area.

That is an unfortunate truth for many programs. Depending on how much they help this new teacher, she can become a fantastic teacher. If she's working towards certification, that's another bonus.

I understand the concern. I might have it as well. I can't offer any practical advice as to whether that teacher will be good or not.

I have to run. I'll write more later. I am at work and about to leave for improv comedy practice. I will catch you soon. Just wanted to at least begin to answer your question.

Matt
post #5 of 9
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Originally Posted by MattBronsil View Post
They may get used to the classroom. What's even more important here is actually a valuable lesson your daughter can learn.

When I was in Montessori, our school had 3 children that had Down Syndrome. I remember this mainly because I can think back to what I learned about that. These children were a part of our classroom community. They were my friends. We understood that they were different, but it did not matter any more than the fact that I was different from another boy for having brown hair rather than blond hair.

I think we need to keep this in mind when we do have students with special needs in the classroom. What may seem like a difficult adjustment now will become something your child will learn to guage and adjust to and grow from. Assuming things are done properly, of course.

I have to agree 100% with Matt. I have TWO children on the spectrum and honestly, it is very frustrating when they are pinpointed out as kind of a "oh no, THAT one has autism! The class might fall apart." Be aware that autistic children are VERY bright and thrive in Montessori classrooms since they are so visual. With proper encouragement, they easily can mold into any situation. Both of my boys were in a Primary program and did wonderfully. Teagan's new school has several autistic and otherwise delayed children and I think it is the most wonderful thing - there is so much the children can learn from them and that they can learn from our children.

I know as a parent it is frustrating to see new children move in so late but I've yet to find a school who doesn't end up doing so if they have space - though the schools are there because they love Montessori, they also are there to make $$ in many cases. Sad but true.


That said, I think I'd have a nice sit down w/ the director and express your concern on the movie watching - out of anything you pointed out, that is my #1 concern!

Good luck w/ your decision!
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I wrote a much longer reply to this. Anyone know what happened to it?
post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thanks so much!!

Thank you all for your responses. I may have not voiced my concern properly about the 2 autistic kids. Lucy's class is fortunate enough to have another autistic classmate who has been in the program since the fall and another classmate who has some serious physical and mental challanges as a result of birth trauma. Both kids do require a little extra from the teachers, but have normalized in the classroom. I do view a diverse classroom as a blessing, my concerns come from the possibilty that the teachers who are only human may very well be overloaded if too many very young or extra needs kids enter the classroom at the same time at a mid year point. There currently are 4 special needs kids and 4 kids under 3 yrs in a class of 25.

These kids are extra special and deserve and can benefit from a M education and our kids definitely can learn from them- but maybe the school needs to provide an extra assistant so when these children need extra help or need to be changes due to a potty accident teachers don;t have to stop a lesson to do this. When it happens once and a while it is understandable but it happened 2 times with two different children in the span of an hour while I was helping in the classroom. Teachers are not happy about it.
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Originally Posted by teagansmama View Post
Be aware that autistic children are VERY bright and thrive in Montessori classrooms since they are so visual.
That is not necessarily true. Autism is a spectrum. Some autistic kids are very bright and some are very delayed. It doesn't do any good to promote stereotypes (ie. autistic kids are usually savants and all that)
post #9 of 9
Oh give me a break Heavenly - I *know* not all children on the spectrum are bright. I have two of my own and work with two as well. But in general, they are very capable of more than people give them credit for. Sorry if my words were taken the wrong way. Never did I say GENIUS or HIGH IQ. So please don't tell me how to promote autistic children. I like to promote them as I would any other child - capable of a lot and not being "labeled" and fingers pointed their way. They deserve as much of a chance as anyone else.

Anyway, Southernmama, it's too bad they do not have aids of any sort for the children since it sounds as if it is needed. We are lucky in Teagan's new school that they do have an aid for the one autistic child who needs the extra support - it makes the whole classroom flow continue.

Hopefully you will be able to sit and have a chat w/ the director about your concerns and they will address them w/ seriousness.
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