Originally Posted by thekimballs
Oh my gosh. Do you ever feel like you're just whacking your head against a wall? How many times do we have to say "They don't "snap," they're not unpredictable, they're good dogs, they're not unsafe, they don't have freakish jaws, they don't...they don't... they don't..."? I feel like I've said the same thing six times so far in this thread, and all anyone responds with is the same old crappy myths and LIES.
There are many homes that are inappropriate to the Pit temperament. If you have other dogs, if you have free-ranging rabbits, if you don't like exercising a dog, don't get a Pit--OR any of the large sporting breeds OR any of the northern breeds OR any of the livestock guard breeds, etc. But don't buy into the crap and the lies--that's how breed-specific legislation ruins lives and unfairly discriminates against perfectly normal and sound dogs.
FWIW, I've heard everything the pro-pibblers have been saying. And while I'm still not quite sure if a pitter would be ok with us, I get it.
They don't snap. Their "issues" are usually apparent, and there are no "hidden triggers".
Dog on dog aggression is totally different from dog/human aggression. I've read an article linked somewhere in here how well bred pit bulls of the past must be relied upon not to bite a handler in the throws of a fight, and animals who were not reliable in this situation would have never been allowed to breed more pits...therefore it's this trustworthiness with humans that has been bred into the well-bred ones that have made the breed so tolerable with humans, and many times children.
I've even seen this, on Animal Cops Detroit, where they have confiscated fighting pits from illegal dog rings, and while they would tear each other apart, the animal control officers would have such difficult time with mandatory law to put them to sleep, because the same pit that just finished killing another dog is so gentle and easygoing with the humans.
FWIW, I've saw two pits at the animals shelter, both were very calm. Then there was a yellow lab. He was staring me down (very challenging in my experience) not wagging his tail (although not bristling either) and barking at my little one. A lab. The pits, on the other hand, where trying to get into the corner closest to him, hoping he would scratch them. (I would not let him put fingers in pens, though...)
I'm not sure if they would be right for our family, but I have learned a lot from this thread. A WHOLE lot. And since I was the one who started this thread as a curious pupil looking for answers, that's the most important thing, right?
Also, a lot of people come in and see a 5 (6? more?) page long thread and don't always bother to read all the points brought up a long time ago. They read the first post and answer the question. I find it a common occurrence in most forums (not even just MDC), that when a hot-button issue is brought up and hashed out and pretty much resolved, if it becomes pages long, often times people will come in much later and just answer the OP and not bother read the rest of the thread to see that their points have already been discussed...several times even, in the thread.
Don't worry, you have already convinced me of the bad rap of the pitts, and a few people coming in later voicing their opinions won't change my mind about them.
(If my mind was changed that easily, I would have circ'ed, formula fed, and would not even be on mdc today!
--we have already established that I am NOT a mainstream follower, easily swayed by common myths.)