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post #41 of 227
Rivka, that was beautiful, I hope for many reasons, that there is a little baby on their way to you and your DH.


As for me...

(forgive the x-posting )

So... I came home this evening to a long message on the answering machine. The urologist finally got back to us with the results of DH's repeat SA (the other one was ordered by my OB and was done at a different lab, this one was done at the lab that the urologist oversees). The count/ concentration was normal (34 million again, my DH is nothing if not consistent!), the motility and morphology was normal, the "strict morphology" was a little low (but the MD said this was not really a problem), and the blood tests (hormone levels) were normal. What was not normal was that the sperm were "severely clumped," which according to our MD is highly indicative antisperm antibodies. DH needs to have a repeat SA done so that they can do a special stain that will confirm/ refute this diagnosis, then the MD wants to meet with us to discuss treatment options, he said something about immunosupressive therapy (corticosteroids) before the answering machine cut him off. I'm trying not to freak out here (read: cry), but what little I can find about it on google indicates that IVF with ICSI is the best chance for conceiving. I guess I just have to wait and see what the next SA says and what the MD says about treatment. Have I mentioned I hate waiting?
post #42 of 227
Hang in there, mischievium. Y'all are in my prayers.
post #43 of 227
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Originally Posted by Rivka  View Post
wooohoooo it looks like a O'd yesterday, a bit late, but hey who's counting?
will have to see if temp keep climbing and i finally get to be in a TWW, thought i would never get here.

on a personal note i just wanted to share my yesterday with you
(there will be no apologies for TMI, i needed to share)

We packed and closed up a job box trunk that DH was given to send his personal things to Iraq ahead of him. We only found out last minute that he was getting this and so we were not very prepared to make the most of it or deal with it's emotional impact as it sit in the dinning room. It might as well have been a 20 ft tall obelisk with the words "YOU TRUE LOVE IS BEING TAKEN" for the impact it caused.
I busied myself with shopping, gathering and packing, something i do with the same systematic organization that i maintain this list with. We generally made it a nice "together time" and opened a bottle of nice wine and shared stories of the strangest trips or camping we had ever gone on. There was soo much that was NOT said.
As we slipped into bed, both tired and sore (i having a nerve pinchy issue slowly resolving in my upper back, he just got anthrax and typhoid shots, that were killing his arms) We capped off what has been a wonderfully frisky weekend, with BDing that was so caring, I cry now thinking about it. It was also the very first time that we spoke about the thought that we could actually be starting other lives, right then and there as we lay embraced. It is talk that i have kept separated from BDing as to not spook him and especially to avoid him feeling like a vending machine (something that he had expressed worry about) I slept so well.

When i got my temp jump this morning, I told him what that probably meant as he got ready to go. He took a long moment to crawl back into bed, half dressed in his uniform, and just shared the moment. I love him so much.

He ships out mid Spring.

If this day and night is the memory that i have to look back on as the day we started a family, it would be such a powerful one of love, strength, determination and choice. Even if i get pregnant at some other point this night will always have a spot in my heart.
Oh Rivka,
This made me cry this morning at my desk. How bitter-sweet for you... but what wonderful moments together. Your husband and you will be in my prayers.

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So... I came home this evening to a long message on the answering machine. The urologist finally got back to us with the results of DH's repeat SA (the other one was ordered by my OB and was done at a different lab, this one was done at the lab that the urologist oversees). The count/ concentration was normal (34 million again, my DH is nothing if not consistent!), the motility and morphology was normal, the "strict morphology" was a little low (but the MD said this was not really a problem), and the blood tests (hormone levels) were normal. What was not normal was that the sperm were "severely clumped," which according to our MD is highly indicative antisperm antibodies. DH needs to have a repeat SA done so that they can do a special stain that will confirm/ refute this diagnosis, then the MD wants to meet with us to discuss treatment options, he said something about immunosupressive therapy (corticosteroids) before the answering machine cut him off. I'm trying not to freak out here (read: cry), but what little I can find about it on google indicates that IVF with ICSI is the best chance for conceiving. I guess I just have to wait and see what the next SA says and what the MD says about treatment. Have I mentioned I hate waiting?
I can't imagine how difficult this is for you. Hugs to you, my dear.
post #44 of 227
Mischievium - that would - that's rough. Thinking non-clumpy thoughts, for you.

Here's hoping that was your night Rivka - and even if it wasn't, how lovely is that?
post #45 of 227
Hi Everyone. I'm so behind because I'm threadkeeping the 12+ thread and have been hanging out on the IF One Thread.

Frog, Very Happy, Very Late Birthday!!

Laura, It's so good to hear that an arrest has been made. Sending your family lots of love. I wish much comfort in your healing process these difficult months.

Rivka, Did I ever say how awesome the new thread is? You did a great job and I agree with yours+Mischievium's thoughts about handling it. Thanks so much for sharing your beautiful moments with your dh. I am so glad you got the chance to "try" this time and that it was and will always be one of the dearest times for you two.

Happy O EarthMama, Rivka and Olerica! GL!

How are you doing nonsenseprecious?

Mischievium, I know I responded on the other thread, but I'm so sorry again, thinking of you a lot here and hoping for the very best. Q-if there were anti-sperm antibodies, does that mean you are producing the antibodies or he is?

(x-post)
Boy, something kind of nutty happened today. I got a message on my cell phone that said " This is your daughter, call me back as soon as possible!"
Ahhhhhh! Then she called again and said "This is your daughter, I just called to say I love you." Then I tried to call her as I do want her to call her actual mother and I don't think I can handle repeated calls from my "daughter." Then she called me back and kind of wailed, "MOTHER???" It was surreal. I think I finally convinced her I am not actually her mother. But I wish I was someone's mother...

Secondly, busy just got busier. DH got a PhD fellowship in Michigan and we are putting our townhouse on the market and moving this summer. Oh Lord, it's trepidatious. M, when do you move to Seattle? Want to mourn the city w/ me? Least there will be more : and this probably sounds terrible, but I think it would be okay to get away from the 18 preg. friends I have here (pretty much everyone...strangely I feel so isolated here). They just really haven't made a space for me.
post #46 of 227
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Secondly, busy just got busier. DH got a PhD fellowship in Michigan and we are putting our townhouse on the market and moving this summer.
Shut UP! I'm in Michigan! Odds are, I'm right where you're going to be, too.

I'm PMing you.
post #47 of 227
Hi y'all. I'm so frustrated. I'm 13DPO and I AF is not here (one day late now) and still tested negative this morning.

I think i was Frog who told me yesterday that I may not get a pos till 5 days past implantation. This waiting is killing me. Of course I feel very bloated and crampy like AF is about to come -- but every time I go to the bathroom there's no trace. And I'm never late.

I just need a little support here.

The suspense is killing me.

poetgirl, that's crazy about your phone call. Would have freaked me out. I wonder if she was adopted and looking for her birth mother. How old did she sound? Also, I totally know what you mean about pregnant women everywhere. Everyother woman who walks by me in my neighborhood is pregnant and I work with pregnant women everyday. It can be hard sometimes.
post #48 of 227
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I think i was Frog who told me yesterday that I may not get a pos till 5 days past implantation. This waiting is killing me. Of course I feel very bloated and crampy like AF is about to come -- but every time I go to the bathroom there's no trace. And I'm never late.
Yep, that was me who told you that. It's something my midwife has reminded me of from time to time. Also, over in queer ttc there's a woman who's got a son (and was pregnant at least one other time) who never got a positive pee-stick before something like 17DPO.

Hang in there!
post #49 of 227
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Yep, that was me who told you that. It's something my midwife has reminded me of from time to time. Also, over in queer ttc there's a woman who's got a son (and was pregnant at least one other time) who never got a positive pee-stick before something like 17DPO.

Hang in there!
Thanks Frog! My temps are still high so I am a little hopeful.
post #50 of 227
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Shut UP! I'm in Michigan! Odds are, I'm right where you're going to be, too.

I'm PMing you.
I didn't know that! I have you placed at where the footprints meet the snow praying to St. Jencat of the Peeless Stick (is this a euphemism for Michigan?? I have a lot to learn!). Do I already have a friend there? Oh Please! I'm sort of terrified! I'm pming you back!

Cori, Fingers crossed! Hang in there, this last stretch really *is* the hardest. Here's hoping AF doesn't show.
post #51 of 227
My hubby's family is from MI, and I lived in Ann Arbor with him for about 6 months while he finished up his degree...Ann Arbor is pretty awesome actually!

We end up in MI about 2x a year in fact!

There are FAR, far, FAR worse places to end up having to move to Poet .
post #52 of 227
Thread Starter 
hmmmm dont think i O'd, temps were up just for a day now down for 2, was just a random spike
im going to go pout under my covers now

i am sheduled to have progesterone test tomorrow that might confirm thing one way or another hopefully. I am also asking for a second one, to do on a proper 7DPO if that should come around.

i know this is getting ahead of myself, but....
i wonder how long i should go on waiting to O before asking for the provera or whatever to end the cycle again after it is decided that it is anovulatory? I am curently CD 20 so not super worried right now, that will start fretting in a few days.
i did the math and if i do not get AF naturally, I will need to start taking provera no later than Mar 21st or in about 15 days if i want to have enough time to have another cycle while DH is still here.
That would CD35 for me so a pretty reasonable expectation for AF to show by then, if things were working right.
post #53 of 227
Well, I'm feeling a bit like . Surgery tomorrow and apparently it's a bigger deal than I thought. I go in at 12 for prep, it's an hour from 2:30-3:30 w/ gen. anesthesia then I go to recovery and am released at 6 pm. This is probably standard but I have to sign a living trust and will. Ick. I did go this morning for a progest. test. All the doctors said it was way too early for an hcg test, but if my progest. is much higher than my normal dreadful 6, then we might know something's up. I'm waiting for the results to show up in my inbox, hence the . I will take an early preg. test tomorrow morning too. It really sucks knowing if I am preg. right now, it will be disturbed (feels almost a moral issue), but there are about 1000 reasons why I am not which the doc. reminded me of, and I've been waiting for this since Nov. Just wish I didn't put myself in this funny place. Will you all give me a little positive energy tomorrow. I don't know why I'm whimping out, but I feel a little whiny about it.

Michele, Thanks for the on Michigan. I think it will be good for us to take the city down a notch. Maybe some day me you and Frog can hang out with our babies there! We'll actually be in Kalamazoo, and I daresay we ought to write a song about moving from San Francisco to Kalamazoo. There's just many interesting syllables to pass that up. Thinking v. good thoughts for your 5 days away special!
post #54 of 227
Thanks for the love, everyone.

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Well, I'm feeling a bit like . Surgery tomorrow and apparently it's a bigger deal than I thought. I go in at 12 for prep, it's an hour from 2:30-3:30 w/ gen. anesthesia then I go to recovery and am released at 6 pm. This is probably standard but I have to sign a living trust and will. Ick. I did go this morning for a progest. test. All the doctors said it was way too early for an hcg test, but if my progest. is much higher than my normal dreadful 6, then we might know something's up. I'm waiting for the results to show up in my inbox, hence the . I will take an early preg. test tomorrow morning too. It really sucks knowing if I am preg. right now, it will be disturbed (feels almost a moral issue), but there are about 1000 reasons why I am not which the doc. reminded me of, and I've been waiting for this since Nov. Just wish I didn't put myself in this funny place. Will you all give me a little positive energy tomorrow. I don't know why I'm whimping out, but I feel a little whiny about it.
Poet, you will be in my thoughts tomorrow. I hope the surgery goes very smoothly .

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Michele, Thanks for the on Michigan. I think it will be good for us to take the city down a notch. Maybe some day me you and Frog can hang out with our babies there! We'll actually be in Kalamazoo, and I daresay we ought to write a song about moving from San Francisco to Kalamazoo. There's just many interesting syllables to pass that up. Thinking v. good thoughts for your 5 days away special!
[insert my best Chandler from "Friends" voice] Dude, Michigan is *so* lucky!
(You know, because Michigan gets to have both you and Frog and occasionally FiberLover.)
post #55 of 227
& Poetgirl - I'll be thinking of you tomorrow....
post #56 of 227
poet to you!

We got a BFP OPK this month!

Keeping fingers crossed!
post #57 of 227
Thread Starter 
a full stream of warm healing thoughts for you poet, see you on the other side!
post #58 of 227
Well, it looks like I'd better wander over and join you ladies. I turned 30 yesterday, and it looks like AF is showing up today, meaning I'm on to cycle 7. ETA: So your list is right, this is since Oct 2007. I had a really short cycles in there.
post #59 of 227
Poet - good luck today honey. I'll be sending you lots of positive thoughts and prayers. I'm confident that the surgery will go smoothly and you'll be better off afterwards and can start back up on the TTC train (hopefully for a short ride!)

Please update us when you feel able...


More later...
post #60 of 227
:vibes your way, Jen!!! *thinking of you*
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