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post #41 of 54
3/6/08 at 7:47pm
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Originally Posted by Beeblebrox View Post
Doesn't seem racist at all to me. I see pink as an expression of being girly in the song and the outfits that one might wear in a ballet recital. Honestly, sometimes I think we over think things. Even if it reinforces gender stereotypes about girls liking pink...I guess it just doesn't get my hackles up.
Yeah, that. It is sugary sweet but so are little kids in a dance recital.
post #42 of 54
3/6/08 at 11:57pm
If all the little girls are white I don't see the problem with them singing it.
post #43 of 54
3/7/08 at 12:57am
Yeah...I want to applaud the OP for being caring/sensitive enough to ask about it. It's obvious, even in this thread, that we don't all think alike, and that it's not always easy to think from another person's point of view. The fact that OP realized that singing something akin to it's not my clothes, I'm pink from head to toe, even my button nose, might cause a bit of angst in some people is....well, it's really cool in my book. Thanks for being so thoughtful.

xoe
post #44 of 54
3/7/08 at 3:51am
I'm very quick to point out when things are racist and my posts on MDC are very anti-racist. But I don't see anything at all referring to skin color in this song. It is talking about the pink/blue color assignment of boys and girls, which is pretty recent in history. And it is saying that girls are just as nice in blue as they are in pink. Which is true.
post #45 of 54
3/7/08 at 12:31pm
I believe that pink is referring to the rosy hue of their skin, but I don't consider it racist.
post #46 of 54
3/7/08 at 12:41pm
I think the song it pretty irritating and, whether or not it is racist or reinforces gender stereotypes, it is definitely gender exclusive.

It does give me the opportunity to post a pic of my son in a tutu though
post #47 of 54
3/7/08 at 12:46pm
But if there are only little white girls in the recital then it doesn't matter because it would be inclusive for them. The only way this would be a problem is if there are boys or other ethnic groups in the class, IMO.
post #48 of 54
3/7/08 at 1:22pm
Not racist, but really awful lyrics. I wouldn't want to have to listen to it, or to subject my daughters to it.

Then again, we don't go in for the pink princessy stuff around here...
post #49 of 54
3/7/08 at 1:40pm
I don't think it's racist or sexist, but I try not to read too much into things.
post #50 of 54
3/7/08 at 1:41pm
I don't see anything wrong with it, it made me visualize little girls in all-pink costumes. Like pink leotard, pink tutu, pink slippers, etc. And it's also saying girls are just as cool when they are tom boyish (in blue). I thought "it's me all over head to toes" was talking about a girly personality(?)
post #51 of 54
3/7/08 at 2:07pm
could you adapt the song slightly and say

'our cheeks are pink just like a rose"

i am assuming children of colour can get flushed chheks just the same as white children.

i am assuming you have no boys in the group - my ds has thrown somewhat of a spanner in the works at his dancing classes!!
post #52 of 54
3/7/08 at 4:17pm
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Originally Posted by oliversmum2000 View Post
i am assuming you have no boys in the group - my ds has thrown somewhat of a spanner in the works at his dancing classes!!
Yep - mine, too! The dance studio always loved it when they had a boy (usually just my son) in a class though. The owner of the studio made a special point of introducing my son to one of their male teachers - I thought that was pretty cool. She wanted him to see that men dance, too. Have I mentioned I love that dance studio?
post #53 of 54
3/7/08 at 4:58pm
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Originally Posted by Benji'sMom View Post
I don't see anything wrong with it, it made me visualize little girls in all-pink costumes. Like pink leotard, pink tutu, pink slippers, etc. And it's also saying girls are just as cool when they are tom boyish (in blue). I thought "it's me all over head to toes" was talking about a girly personality(?)
What she said.

I also think that, if you have an issue with it being "sickly sweet" or gender biased or whatever, you probably wouldn't have your little girl in a pink tutu in a dance recital, anyway. Or I could be wrong...but I know that the only friends I have who would take issue with this are strong feminists, and there's no way their daughters would ever be in a traditional dance class like this one anyway. But maybe some people here are different...
post #54 of 54
3/8/08 at 11:47pm
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Originally Posted by jeca View Post
But if there are only little white girls in the recital then it doesn't matter because it would be inclusive for them. The only way this would be a problem is if there are boys or other ethnic groups in the class, IMO.
I'm not sure about that. I think it's also giving a message that boys aren't really welcome in the class. (I agree with the pps who feel the pink is more a gender than racial thing.) If I had an older daughter in the recital, and a toddler boy, I'd probably leave the recital feeling like I could cross that class off of options for him in the future. It's kind of like a YWCA dance class near us that has a prescribed uniform of black leotard and pink tights that's listed in the class description. Now, my ds's favorite color happens to be pink, so he'd be fine with that (if he were interested in taking the class), but it just seems like black tights would make it feel less like, "Well, we know it's going to be all girls."
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