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post #1 of 15
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Ah. I just want to scream! We have a TON of debt! Maybe $40K... I don't know where to start! Most times I call places they want all the $$ or nothing. WTH?! Do they not understand! I know its our fault, it should've been paid already but I'm trying here!

Most of this debt is my dh's before we were married. So I can't talk to alot of ppl. I think I'm going to have him send letters so I can talk to them.

Everything's just a mess and I wonder if we'll ever get out.
post #2 of 15

Sorry, mama. Debt sucks. We've got you beat by about 25k. We are using the snowball method to get out. Have you checked out the Dave Ramsey thread? Some mamas swear it works wonders!
Take deep breaths....
One bill at a time.

Good luck!
post #3 of 15
How old are these debts? If they are really old and out of the statute of limitations, you might just want to send them a letter telling them to ceace & desist.

Not that you wouldn't want to pay your valid debts, but if they are harrassing you, it may make it easier to put them on hold until you have the money to pay them.

If they are fairly recent, I would try really hard to make arrangements. You don't want to end up with a judgement or wage garnishments. What kind of debts are they? I'm surprised they aren't willing to make payment arrangements with you.

I also wouldn't deal with them on the phone. You could just send them limited cease & desist letters, and then only deal with them in writing. That way, you could write letters to them in your dh's name to make arrangements. They will bully and harass you on the phone, and even lie. But if you have sent letters offering payments and they turn them down, you will have a paper trail if they try to take you to court. I think most judges would not look favoribly on a creditor who refused to work with someone who was trying their best.

So I guess I just suggest trying to handle all these overwhelming debts by mail. And prioritizing them most important to least important. Just try tackling them one at a time, and try not to let the other ones bother you until you are ready both mentally and financially to deal with them.
post #4 of 15
Get out all your bills and write them down as the first step. Then inventory what you make and start making a plan. Track what you spend each month and see if there are places you can save. This forum is great for helping with motivation and if you get a budget written up, people can help fine tune it for you.
post #5 of 15
Debt adds up quick doesn't it? I agree with the other posters - you have to write out a plan and stick with it. Making out a budget will take some work, but it is well worth it in the long run.

It was a real eye opener when we wrote our budget out. It made us realize how much we were spending on everything.

Andrea
post #6 of 15
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Originally Posted by LifeIZBeautiful View Post

Sorry, mama. Debt sucks. We've got you beat by about 25k. We are using the snowball method to get out. Have you checked out the Dave Ramsey thread? Some mamas swear it works wonders!
Take deep breaths....
One bill at a time.

Good luck!
Thanks I've lurked over at the Dave Ramsey thread and looked on his site a bit. I think it's a great plan, I just have a hard time with the $1000 EF. All I can think about is that I should be giving that money to creditors.

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How old are these debts? If they are really old and out of the statute of limitations, you might just want to send them a letter telling them to ceace & desist.

Not that you wouldn't want to pay your valid debts, but if they are harrassing you, it may make it easier to put them on hold until you have the money to pay them.

If they are fairly recent, I would try really hard to make arrangements. You don't want to end up with a judgement or wage garnishments. What kind of debts are they? I'm surprised they aren't willing to make payment arrangements with you.

I also wouldn't deal with them on the phone. You could just send them limited cease & desist letters, and then only deal with them in writing. That way, you could write letters to them in your dh's name to make arrangements. They will bully and harass you on the phone, and even lie. But if you have sent letters offering payments and they turn them down, you will have a paper trail if they try to take you to court. I think most judges would not look favoribly on a creditor who refused to work with someone who was trying their best.

So I guess I just suggest trying to handle all these overwhelming debts by mail. And prioritizing them most important to least important. Just try tackling them one at a time, and try not to let the other ones bother you until you are ready both mentally and financially to deal with them.
Some of them are pretty old, but how old is too old? I think conversing by mail is a much better idea! Esp, like you said, the paper trail. I finally got one creditor to agree to take half now and the rest over a period of 3mos. Which we will probably pay off sooner than that.

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Originally Posted by mtm View Post
Get out all your bills and write them down as the first step. Then inventory what you make and start making a plan. Track what you spend each month and see if there are places you can save. This forum is great for helping with motivation and if you get a budget written up, people can help fine tune it for you.
I am working on this right now! I would LOVE help with my budget! I'm never sure where/what to change.

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Debt adds up quick doesn't it? I agree with the other posters - you have to write out a plan and stick with it. Making out a budget will take some work, but it is well worth it in the long run.

It was a real eye opener when we wrote our budget out. It made us realize how much we were spending on everything.

Andrea
yes, yes it does. I think we probably over-spend on some things. Hopefully we'll be able to cut back some to give more $$ to debt collectors.

Do you think I should be contacting all the creditors at once to get a monthly pyt plan OR do you think I should take each debt by itself? The second one sounds more realistic. I can see the other creditors harrassing us if we start contacting them.

What is DR snowball effect?
post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by huskermommy View Post
Some of them are pretty old, but how old is too old? I think conversing by mail is a much better idea! Esp, like you said, the paper trail. I finally got one creditor to agree to take half now and the rest over a period of 3mos. Which we will probably pay off sooner than that.

What is DR snowball effect?
Usually too old is 7 1/2 yrs for reporting to a credit reporting agency, and usually 3-6 yrs for obtaining a judgement, depending on the state.

The DR snowball is where you start throwing all your extra money at the debt with the smallest balance, while still making the minimum payments to other creditors. Once you pay off the smallest debt, you add that amount to the next lowest balance. It helps because it gives you some encouragement after paying off smaller debts and adding that amount to the next debt. However, some people disagree with this method because if disregards interest rates or other circumstances (such as whichever creditor is hounding you the most).

I personally prefer a modified DR snowball. I like the idea of throwing all your extra money at a debt, and then when that is paid off throwing all that money plus the previous money at the next important debt. I just don't think I agree with his order of paying them off. I would prefer to pay off those with the worst terms/interest rates, and then move on to the next worst one.

But it's an individual choice for each person. Pick whatever works best for you.
post #8 of 15
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So if my DH has debt that is 3-6yrs old they can place a judgement against him?
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by huskermommy View Post
So if my DH has debt that is 3-6yrs old they can place a judgement against him?
No, she means any judgments already on his report will drop off after 3-6 years, and regular debt after 7.5 years.
post #10 of 15
If you do have debts that are older than 8 years and about to reach it's statue of limitations be careful about contacting them. If you make any kind of agreement to pay the debt then you are obligated and the debt cycle starts all over again. Say, it's been over 8 years and about to fall off his credit but you send a letter saying you will pay them something then it will start a new cycle and the 8 years doesn't exist anymore. I'm not saying not to pay your debts but I would start with your new ones first and the ones you acquired together.
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by huskermommy View Post
Thanks I've lurked over at the Dave Ramsey thread and looked on his site a bit. I think it's a great plan, I just have a hard time with the $1000 EF. All I can think about is that I should be giving that money to creditors.
Well, you NEED to stop using your credit cards. That $1K Baby EF is for EMERGENCIES - so you don't go into more debt - for things like car repairs, emergency dental work, etc.

You should listen to his radio show. You get a much better "feel" for DR's plan from listening, than just the Total Money Makeover book, IMO. If you can't listen live online or via regular radio, you can get 1 hour free each day (podcast) via iTunes.
post #12 of 15
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No, she means any judgments already on his report will drop off after 3-6 years, and regular debt after 7.5 years.
No that's not quite right.

Someone can take you to court to get a judgement within 3-6 yrs. But this varies depending on which state you live in, that's why I put a time range. I know in our state it's 6, but some states are as soon as 3 yrs.

A creditor can continue to report on your credit report to 7.5yrs from the date of first deliquency, not when they sent it to collections.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by zersha View Post
No that's not quite right.

Someone can take you to court to get a judgement within 3-6 yrs. But this varies depending on which state you live in, that's why I put a time range. I know in our state it's 6, but some states are as soon as 3 yrs.

A creditor can continue to report on your credit report to 7.5yrs from the date of first deliquency, not when they sent it to collections.
Holy crap : I thought creditors had 60 days to get a judgment, after that they were stuck with regular collection methods. Maybe it used to be that way? Gah, so stupid, I hate the entire economic set up in this country.
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If you can't listen live online or via regular radio, you can get 1 hour free each day (podcast) via iTunes.
You can also listen to the whole show online via the archives.
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You can also listen to the whole show online via the archives.
I thought it had changed - what it was is that they changed the website around a bit.

http://www.daveramsey.com/tdrs/
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