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post #101 of 115
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Originally Posted by delphiniumpansy View Post
Also, wanted to point out that plenty of working moms nurse for many months, even years, with the help of bottles. So again, bottles are not guaranteed to threaten the breastfeeding relationship and to say so is needlessly alarmist, I believe.
I do not see where anyone has said that they are "guaranteed" to threaten a relationship. It *IS* a risk. Period.

-Angela
post #102 of 115
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
I do not see where anyone has said that they are "guaranteed" to threaten a relationship. It *IS* a risk. Period.

-Angela
And some people have to use bottles. Period. And for many bottles are no big deal. Period. So, to imply that using a bottle is going to threaten the breastfeeding relationship is like saying you should not ride in or drive a car because it can threaten your life. It is needlessly alarmist. Period.

So, in sum, if you use a bottle carefully and not too often, it will not threaten the breastfeeding relationship. Therefore, it is needlessly alarmists to constantly tell moms they should never use a bottle. Plenty of breastfeeding moms give their babies bottle with no problems.

kellymom has some great bottle feeding advice

http://www.kellymom.com/bf/pumping/bottle-feeding.html
post #103 of 115
Funny how a question that required a one word answer (No) can spawn 100+ responses.

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post #104 of 115
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Funny how a question that required a one word answer (No) can spawn 100+ responses.

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post #105 of 115
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Originally Posted by delphiniumpansy View Post

So, in sum, if you use a bottle carefully and not too often, it will not threaten the breastfeeding relationship.
VERY wrong! It CAN. Saying it "will not" is totally speculative and dismissive. IT CAN. It did with MY DS. Oh wait, that's cuz I was inattentive...
post #106 of 115
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Originally Posted by blueridgewoman View Post
You know, part of the issue is that I am feeding dd from one side exclusively and it's hard for people to believe I could nourish an older baby.

Gah, people.
My dd2 is 18 months old & we have nursed from only one breast the entire time. I have had to have a number of surgeries on my other breast beginning while I was 36 weeks pregnant with this babe. It culminated in my having to undergo general anesthesia for major surgewry about 9 months ago & I was fortunate enough to have a generous mama (hanno ) give me PLENTY of pumped milk to get through my surgery & recovery.

It IS a challenge sometimes to only have 1 breast to nurse your babe from, but it CAN be done.

Good Luck to you mama! It is a struggle worth winning.
post #107 of 115
I am nursing baby #4 and none of my kiddos have ever had a drop of formula. There is no need to supplement with formula. That would only make your supply drop.
post #108 of 115
Well my baby takes most of her milk from bottles, because of my ridiculous supply. But she does still nurse and we are almost 15 months out! So it can be done. I was heartbroken when I had to intro bottles, due in large part to attitudes that proclaim it A FACT that introducing a bottle WILL WITHOUT FAIL destroy a breastfeeding relationship. I think that attitude can be very hurtful to moms, and there are lots more positive ways to help moms who need, for whatever reason, to have baby accept both bottle and breast.

I don't think wannabe's post was insulting at all. Clearly she meant inattentive and/OR unknowledgable. There are lots of well-intentioned but uninformed moms whose breastfeeding relationships are destroyed due to either lack of info or misinformation. I don't think anyone here can dispute that.
post #109 of 115
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Originally Posted by prettypixels View Post
attitudes that proclaim it A FACT that introducing a bottle WILL WITHOUT FAIL destroy a breastfeeding relationship.
None HERE said that.

But it's too late when the damage is done, so warnings should go out.
post #110 of 115
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Originally Posted by prettypixels View Post
There are lots of well-intentioned but uninformed moms whose breastfeeding relationships are destroyed due to either lack of info or misinformation. I don't think anyone here can dispute that.
I will agree that there are lots of breastfeeding relationships ruined due to misinformation. Misinformation like the idea that if done *just right* introducing a bottle is ALWAYS safe and never a risk.

Any artificial nipple at any time is a risk.

It is often no problem.

But it's still a risk.

-Angela
post #111 of 115
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Originally Posted by delphiniumpansy View Post
Also, wanted to point out that plenty of working moms nurse for many months, even years, with the help of bottles. So again, bottles are not guaranteed to threaten the breastfeeding relationship and to say so is needlessly alarmist, I believe.
Alarmist pretty much sums it up.

Two things spring to my mind on this:

First, I personally know way, way more babies who refuse bottles than those who got a bottle too early and refused to nurse. Mine among them. Nervous about the stories of nipple confusion, I waited too long. I see that "pumping and crying about what I've done" story and raise it a "listening to my child cry as the sitter tried to get her to take a bottle."

Second, I also know women who, knowing they were going back to work, decided that nursing/pumping wasn't worth it, because they'd heard all the alarmist stories about how breastfed babies won't take the bottle at all. "He'll need to take a bottle when I go back to work, and they say breastfed babies won't take bottles."

The all-or-nothing tactic isn't very helpful for the many, many women who know that they cannot rely on nothing but personally being the only one who can feed their child, and only from the breast, on demand, for a year.
post #112 of 115
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Originally Posted by rmzbm View Post
VERY wrong! It CAN. Saying it "will not" is totally speculative and dismissive. IT CAN. It did with MY DS. Oh wait, that's cuz I was inattentive...
She said "will not when done carefully".

And yes, you were probably inattentive not to notice the beginnings of a problem. Easy to do, why are you so offended.
post #113 of 115
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Originally Posted by wannabe View Post
She said "will not when done carefully".

And yes, you were probably inattentive not to notice the beginnings of a problem. Easy to do, why are you so offended.
Yeah, I noticed, thanks...the problem was I didn't know what the hell to do. And, it CAN, even if done carefully. And, yes, I am HIGHLY offended.
post #114 of 115
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Originally Posted by savithny View Post
Alarmist pretty much sums it up.


First, I personally know way, way more babies who refuse bottles than those who got a bottle too early and refused to nurse.

The all-or-nothing tactic isn't very helpful for the many, many women who know that they cannot rely on nothing but personally being the only one who can feed their child, and only from the breast, on demand, for a year.
I agree with all of this including having babies who will not take bottles.

We need more acceptance and we need to offer more flexibility if we want to make headway towards becoming a breastfeeding culture. Many women do not breastfeed at all or for very long because of negative attitudes towards flexibility. They see breastfeeding as an all or nothing choice when it does not have to be.

One does not have to offer any supplementation but if one chooses to it is not all that risky. Yes, in the scheme of things it is a risk, meaning it is not unrisky. But that does not equate to it being dangerous. As with pacifiers, most babies are just fine and totally know the difference between a real and a fake nipple.
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