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post #1 of 88
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for the past 4 years, we've had at-least one summer vacation somewhere around the world with nude beaches. Last summer it was Spain & France (same trip), the year before it was Florida, the year before it was Hawaii. This coming year we plan to visit Brazil.

DS was 11 when we went for the first time, and will be 15 this summer, he's not been shy or embarrassed and has overwhelmingly supported us with this type of short summer vacation.

Whats your feelings on such vacations?

Would your family do such?
post #2 of 88
I'm not entirely sure of my feelings on this. I would probably be more comfortable taking small children than teenagers. I am not ashamed of the human body, but I wouldn't want to tempt myself or teenager to lust. However, I am not aware of your values. I do like the idea of letting them see what real bodies look like.
post #3 of 88
I feel that it's my duty to protect the viewing of my child's nude body until she/he is an adult and can choose to expose it however she/he wishes. Therefore, I would not take my children to a family nude beach. I think the theory of public nudity is nice, but even "protected" nude areas such as a family nude beach are not really safe, imo.
post #4 of 88
I would be uncomfortable with it. Faith wise, we believe in dressing fairly modestly. We are not extreme about it but being nude in public would go far beyond what would work for us.

I would also be concerned about allowing my children to be nude in public because as much as I want to assume positive intent about everyone, there are people out there who do not have good intentions. It is unfortunate but also definitely a reality that would keep me away from such places with my kids, even if my faith were not an issue.
post #5 of 88
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I would be uncomfortable with it. Faith wise, we believe in dressing fairly modestly. We are not extreme about it but being nude in public would go far beyond what would work for us.
Are you Amish? Neither Christianity or Judisim has anything doctrinally against nudity. In fact, baptisms were in biblical times preformed unclothed.

I'm not trying to be harsh, just curious.
post #6 of 88
I would not be comfortable with it, mostly for faith-based modesty reasons like the PP.
post #7 of 88
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Are you Amish? Neither Christianity or Judisim has anything doctrinally against nudity. In fact, baptisms were in biblical times preformed unclothed.

I'm not trying to be harsh, just curious.
Nope. Not Amish. It is not a hard and fast doctrinal rule from our church and even dh and I don't have a set of rules for what passes and what doesn't (I'm sitting here t-shirt and jeans right now). We just generally keep our private areas covered and would not feel comfortable with our family being nude in public.

As far as Judaism goes though, my understanding is that there are modesty rules? I know a couple ladies who are modern Orthodox and they definitely seem to believe in guidelines for modest dress. There are also several Christian denominations that do as well, some more set in official teaching that others.
post #8 of 88
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Nope. Not Amish. It is not a hard and fast doctrinal rule from our church and even dh and I don't have a set of rules for what passes and what doesn't (I'm sitting here t-shirt and jeans right now). We just generally keep our private areas covered and would not feel comfortable with our family being nude in public.

As far as Judaism goes though, my understanding is that there are modesty rules? I know a couple ladies who are modern Orthodox and they definitely seem to believe in guidelines for modest dress. There are also several Christian denominations that do as well, some more set in official teaching that others.
From my understanding, however its based upon appropriate dress for worship. Jesus was a Jew and he laid aside all garments at the last supper.
post #9 of 88
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From my understanding, however its based upon appropriate dress for worship. Jesus was a Jew and he laid aside all garments at the last supper.
Yes, I understand what you are saying, but in everyday life, your average Orthodox or Modern Orthodox Jew would likely say they dress modestly for faith reasons just as many Christians would say the same. (Many Christians also would not, as there are a wide variety of views with Christianity about many things, but at least where I am, it is not unusual for a Christian to say they dress modestly for faith reasons.)

HTH
post #10 of 88
Heck yeah!

I love going to beaches in other parts of the world because it's so much more "real" than in California (where I grew up). We were in Spain last year as well and while we didn't hit a "nude" beach, every beach we went to had folks of all ages in all stages of dress/undress. I love being able to go topless without feeling like I'm being overtly sexual, ya know? Other countries around the world have WAY healthier attitudes towards the body and are way more accepting of normal variations in what a body looks like than here in the states (of course, IMO).

I still dress/undress around my kids (because they follow me everywhere with their questions, etc. LOL) and until either of us feel uncomfortable with our casual attitudes towards nudity, I'll continue.

Seriously, Americans are scarily hung up about nudity and sex.
post #11 of 88
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Heck yeah!

I love going to beaches in other parts of the world because it's so much more "real" than in California (where I grew up). We were in Spain last year as well and while we didn't hit a "nude" beach, every beach we went to had folks of all ages in all stages of dress/undress. I love being able to go topless without feeling like I'm being overtly sexual, ya know? Other countries around the world have WAY healthier attitudes towards the body and are way more accepting of normal variations in what a body looks like than here in the states (of course, IMO).

I still dress/undress around my kids (because they follow me everywhere with their questions, etc. LOL) and until either of us feel uncomfortable with our casual attitudes towards nudity, I'll continue.

Seriously, Americans are scarily hung up about nudity and sex.
I'm American, but I live in Holland. I really like the healthier attitude about bodies. What's great a saunas, beaches, etc. (after I got over my initial embarrassment) was how young, old, fat, thin, wrinkly, spotty, gorgeous, unattractive, etc. *all* were just . .. there . . . naked. It cures you pretty quickly of sexualizing the human body, let me tell ya'!

We still walk around naked at home (DS is 5) and I think it's fine. I don't think I'd make an effort to go to a specifically nude beach, but I wouldn't shy away from one either.

I do understand, though, that people have very valid faith-based reasons for avoiding such a situation, which should be respected. I don't think OP is one, though, or else she wouldn't be asking.
post #12 of 88
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Are you Amish? Neither Christianity or Judisim has anything doctrinally against nudity. In fact, baptisms were in biblical times preformed unclothed.

I'm not trying to be harsh, just curious.
Actually, as an Orthodox Jew, we dress modestly at all times (skirts that cover the knee, stockings, shirts that cover the elbow and collarbone, and married women wear haircoverings). Judaism definitely has doctrines against nudity in public. Only my husband and other females can see me dress immodestly (ie. pajamas, bathing suit...)
post #13 of 88
Living in the Pacific Northwest we visit hot springs sometimes. One of my kids will strip, the other one doesn't. I respect both choices. Most folks at a natural hot spring are nude. As long as they aren't creepy, I don't have any issues with nudity.
post #14 of 88
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Actually, as an Orthodox Jew, we dress modestly at all times (skirts that cover the knee, stockings, shirts that cover the elbow and collarbone, and married women wear haircoverings). Judaism definitely has doctrines against nudity in public. Only my husband and other females can see me dress immodestly (ie. pajamas, bathing suit...)
Then why were baptisms done in the nude? Why did Jesus disrobe at the last supper? I discussed the judaism issue with a co-worker of mine and she was not able to actually point to anything other than 'standards' of the local church or current sectarian beliefs, nothing firmly written in stone.

Edit: I dont have a very firm stance with the issue with judaism, only pulling at straws and tidbits of info. :-)

Edit #2: You can tell that I'm still not feeling all that well today, because unless things changed, I dont know many baptized jewish folk.
post #15 of 88
I wouldn't do a vacation like that, because I'm pretty uptight about people seeing me naked, and dh is even more so. I have no problem with nude vacations, though. I think ds1 would be uncomfortable at a nude beach, but it's hard to say. He's in a fairly modest phase right now, but aside from avoiding looking straight at me most of the time, he barely batted an eyelash when I stripped down for the birth pool...in the living room. I don't think he'd care about other people being naked, but he likes his privates covered up at this point in his life.
post #16 of 88
I wouldn't have any trouble with it at all. (DH might). If your son sounds OK with it, I see no problems. It sounds like he's developing a healthy attitude toward nudity.

I would totally do it and have thought about joining a nude club. To my complete surprise, DH who was always more comfortable with nudity in the house gave it a big no (for him). I suspect if we were travelling some where (Rome, say) he'd do as the Romans but it isn't the sort of thing he'd seek out. My 5 yo would revel in any chance to be nude.

I don't have a teenage boy, but I'm pretty sure it's not the nudity that "tempts them to lust." It's those raging hormones and that insatiable urge to procreate that does it. Seems to me that problem exists whether your at the beach or not.
(hee hee)

I don't think there are any special safety concerns at nude beaches that don't exist in clothed beaches. The world can be a dangerous place, with or without clothing.

Go and have a marvelous vacation and live a bit in different cultures. I'm totally jealous.
post #17 of 88
I'd love to do that. I hate swimsuits, I will only wear a very modest (as in, more modest than you can find in department stores) swimsuit and dress modestly including covering my head pretty much all the time. I have no desire for I or my child to be dressed in clothing the main function of which is sexualization rather than simply decoration or practical protection from the elements. Bathing suits are atrocious, and I hate having to deal with a lot of sunscreen, etc.

But in clothing-optional environments things are different. Especially in family-friendly clothing-optional places, there is no vanity or sexualization to being nude. If anything it's the ultimate in plain dress and it doesn't feel immodest to me to be nude when everyone is the way it does to be dressed in clothing that merely calls attention to my "private" bits by covering them and little else and in such a clingy way.

In short, I would RATHER take DD to a family-friendly nude beach than a clothed beach, and we'd be nude even though on a clothed beach we'd be in very modest sun-protective swimsuits.

I'd still cover my head, though, because I'm currently oath-bound to do that. And DD's, with a nice, wide-brimmed sun hat!
post #18 of 88
I think it's awesome when parents and children (especially older children or teens) are comfortable with stuff like that. It shows they've been raised with good liberal values, IMO.

I have seriously thought about taking my kids to a nude beach . . . my daughter LOVES to be naked, swim naked, etc and we just don't have a lot of opportunity for that around here. She's five, by the way . . . and I really, really hope that she never develops a strong sense of modesty (though I know I developed it for a few years of my life -- 9yo til 15 or so and then promptly lost it forever).

Anyway, to nude beaches and families who visit them!
post #19 of 88
my faith and ideas about modesty aside. .. there is no way I would have been hanging out nude with my mom.
post #20 of 88
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I'd love to do that. I hate swimsuits, I will only wear a very modest (as in, more modest than you can find in department stores) swimsuit and dress modestly including covering my head pretty much all the time. I have no desire for I or my child to be dressed in clothing the main function of which is sexualization rather than simply decoration or practical protection from the elements. Bathing suits are atrocious, and I hate having to deal with a lot of sunscreen, etc.

But in clothing-optional environments things are different. Especially in family-friendly clothing-optional places, there is no vanity or sexualization to being nude. If anything it's the ultimate in plain dress and it doesn't feel immodest to me to be nude when everyone is the way it does to be dressed in clothing that merely calls attention to my "private" bits by covering them and little else and in such a clingy way.

In short, I would RATHER take DD to a family-friendly nude beach than a clothed beach, and we'd be nude even though on a clothed beach we'd be in very modest sun-protective swimsuits.

I'd still cover my head, though, because I'm currently oath-bound to do that. And DD's, with a nice, wide-brimmed sun hat!

YES!!! Other than the head covering *FOR ME!* But you expressed this thought process SO much more eloquently than I did!!!! Thank yoU!
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