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post #1 of 24
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**sigh**

For the past several weeks I've been heading to our local YMCA every other day for their amazing indoor playground program. Trying to expend some of my kids energy and bonding by playing with them. We've been so cooped up all winter and want to run around and play! I'm hyper by nature, lol, so are my kids. When I'm calm, they are, yk?

Any who, none of us were calm today, right from the start. I should have realized this and skipped going to the Y. But, I thought it would help.

Everything was ok until we were in the locker room trying to get dressed after playing at the indoor playground. No one wanted to go home, but the program ended, so we had no choice. My kids were still HYPER from playing for an hour. In the locker room, they were running around, using their "outdoor" voice, hiding in empty lockers, while my youngest, whose only 18mths, was EVERYWHERE. The other moms, I could tell, were not impressed with me. It really is amazing how so many other mothers are so critical with each other. I'm sure they have bad days, no? Perhaps they could have helped instead of standing there watching me?

Looking back there was lots of things I could have done (like gone into one of the changing stalls to get our boots and jackets on), but at the time I was just trying to hurry to get out of there quick (which probably contributed to the hyperness). But other than trying to hurry, I didn't loose my cool. I didn't yell or snap, I just tried lovingly to get their attention to remind them of their tasks of getting their coats on and their boots. Renee, my youngest, of course, had a tantrum while I was trying to get her jacket on, lol.

I was firm in the car, saying they need to listen to mommy or we won't be able to come back again, but I didn't yell or show I was angry. (And yes, I was angry, not at them, but at the situation and at the mothers who were looking - with their one child - and judging me for not having more "control").

Any who, there's no point to this post...only I needed to "talk" about it yk? I'm just so glad I've embraced gentle discipline. Ever since, I normally feel more calm and loving, just in general even. I think I was waay too strict on my first child when he was younger. I use to try to "control" him instead of understanding him and realizing he is just a child whose learning yk?
post #2 of 24
Amy,
I am so happy that you posted this. I was just really frustrated with another post about aggressive kids and your post was exactly what I needed to read. Moms are overly critical about things like this. Some moms may have viewed what you were doing as passive and permissive rather than what you *actually* were doing which was being understanding and attentive. Not aggressive yourself and angry.

Thank you thank you for posting this. It helped calm me from my frustrations and I wanted to let you know you are not alone in this type of situation. I am not a passive or permissive parent nor am I aggressive but I have alpha personality children and they act much like you described.

*yes I am hyper too!*-as are my children.
post #3 of 24
Sheesh. I think you did FABULOUSLY well, mama. It is good to know at least some kids growing up nowadays are actually being parented instead of parked in front of a TV and ignored. Even here on MDC, it drives me NUTS to read posts about how the poster doesn't 'tolerate' certain behavior from her kids. All the while I chuckle to myself, Weeell, I sure HOPE you get at least one kid like my DS because clearly your kids have not rocked your world just yet! Some people just have no idea what persistence can look like.
post #4 of 24
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Originally Posted by laoxinat View Post
Even here on MDC, it drives me NUTS to read posts about how the poster doesn't 'tolerate' certain behavior from her kids. All the while I chuckle to myself, Weeell, I sure HOPE you get at least one kid like my DS because clearly your kids have not rocked your world just yet! Some people just have no idea what persistence can look like.
I am loving this post! I agree, some parents have never experienced one child like your ds, my ds! My DS is the definition of spirited and strongwilled and BOY.
post #5 of 24
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Even here on MDC, it drives me NUTS to read posts about how the poster doesn't 'tolerate' certain behavior from her kids. All the while I chuckle to myself, Weeell, I sure HOPE you get at least one kid like my DS because clearly your kids have not rocked your world just yet! Some people just have no idea what persistence can look like.

Checking in from my totally rocked, turned upside down and inside out world.

And no disrespect intended, but it's almost ALWAYS the "one child parent" who is giving me that ever dissaproving stare when my child is throwing a tantrum in the middle of the store, playgroup, library, whatever. It must be blissful to live in a perfect world

Love this thread!
post #6 of 24
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Checking in from my totally rocked, turned upside down and inside out world.

And no disrespect intended, but it's almost ALWAYS the "one child parent" who is giving me that ever dissaproving stare when my child is throwing a tantrum in the middle of the store, playgroup, library, whatever. It must be blissful to live in a perfect world

Love this thread!
Lol, I totally agree...b/c you know what? I really hate to admit it, but when I only had my son I was that Mom who judged. Horrible eh? Boy I had sooo much to learn! I really wish I knew better than and could've have helped a stressed out Mom or even just said something supportive yk?

Now, I feel like I'm more "chilled" out, and let them be kids yk? Especially my son, whose a typical five yr old BOY! It's so funny, yesterday, while my son was in SK, I was able to buy a cover-stitch sewing machine and have a mini lesson while my two girls played with some toys on the floor beside me. If I had my son along, I probably would have been thrown out, lol!

I used to struggle with my son's behaviour, b/c a lot of what he does is kinda...annoying boy stuff. But now I embrace him and he has so much more confidence now. I love seeing that, he's such a sweetie, just very energetic!
post #7 of 24
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Lol, I totally agree...b/c you know what? I really hate to admit it, but when I only had my son I was that Mom who judged. Horrible eh? Boy I had sooo much to learn! I really wish I knew better than and could've have helped a stressed out Mom or even just said something supportive yk?


I used to struggle with my son's behaviour, b/c a lot of what he does is kinda...annoying boy stuff. But now I embrace him and he has so much more confidence now. I love seeing that, he's such a sweetie, just very energetic!
I am right with you on both points. I, too, judged when I had one perfect little baby. Then about 2 1/2 the innocence disappeared and my baby was replaced by a *ack* boy. But now at 4 with an equally energetic 20 month old, I have begun to embrace him and his spirited-ness.
post #8 of 24
I have so been there. I can't stand the stares either! I make it my goal in life to smile at a flustered mom and tell her "I've soooo been there!" or something like that to let her know I'm not judging and it happens to all of us.

I was in Sears the other day and my 20 month old started throwing a major fit and was trying to launch himself out of my arms. I was trying my best to calm him down and asked him "do you want your paci?" and this old man who'd been STARRING at me with a crabby look said "he doesn't need that he's too old!" I said "mind your own business!"

Probably pretty rude but at least I didn't snap at DS.

I think you're doing a great job and that's all that counts!
post #9 of 24
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I was in Sears the other day and my 20 month old started throwing a major fit and was trying to launch himself out of my arms. I was trying my best to calm him down and asked him "do you want your paci?" and this old man who'd been STARRING at me with a crabby look said "he doesn't need that he's too old!" I said "mind your own business!"
Ha hahaha. Like that old mean really believes you care about his #$%^ opinion! How did you stop yourself from actually laughing right in his face? ROFLOMG
post #10 of 24
Don't assume that the moms where being critical just because they only have one child, they may have been looking because of the noise but feeling sorry for you because you were having a tough day. I actually had a woman in the store who I thought was looking down on me when I was holding my dd while she was having a tantrum tell me that she remembered having bad days like this and when I look at people who's kids are out of control that is what I am thinking to. It is embarassing but most people with kids realize that this is just a bad day and that they have them too.
post #11 of 24
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Ha hahaha. Like that old mean really believes you care about his #$%^ opinion! How did you stop yourself from actually laughing right in his face? ROFLOMG
I was so mad! I wanted to be like "WHAT are you starring at" in the first place but I bit my tongue until he actually interjected. I SHOULDN'T care what he thinks though... I think I'm overly sensitive. hehe.

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Don't assume that the moms where being critical just because they only have one child, they may have been looking because of the noise but feeling sorry for you because you were having a tough day. I actually had a woman in the store who I thought was looking down on me when I was holding my dd while she was having a tantrum tell me that she remembered having bad days like this and when I look at people who's kids are out of control that is what I am thinking to. It is embarassing but most people with kids realize that this is just a bad day and that they have them too.
It's hard to not assume that someone is thinking poorly of you when they have a certain look on their face ie shock or disapproval. If someone is feeling sympathetic they should show it on their face or verbalize it. I think that's the right thing to do. People can only assume what you're thinking if you don't speak up. That's just what people do. It's human nature.

This is why I go out of my way to shoot a mom a sympathetic look and to say "I've been there" or something along those lines. When someone is just starring at you you just feel on display and can only imagine what they're thinking. Wrong or right I think it's pretty common.

FWIW most of the time I get looks from people who have no children with them so I don't know if it's a "one child only" thing. I know when I had no kids I knew EVERYTHING about kids. I would NEVER let my baby sleep in my bed with me, I would NEVER let my kid still poop in his diaper at age 3 (I mean hello just take them away how hard is that?! ...riiiigght).
post #12 of 24
In these moments, I find the best thing is to close my eyes, surround myself with peace and light and direct my strongest "bite me" vibe in the direction of the folks who are sooooo sure they could do this better.

No one got hurt. You got loaded in the car in one peace. It's a "play on" call from where I sit.
post #13 of 24
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It's hard to not assume that someone is thinking poorly of you when they have a certain look on their face ie shock or disapproval. If someone is feeling sympathetic they should show it on their face or verbalize it. I think that's the right thing to do. People can only assume what you're thinking if you don't speak up. That's just what people do. It's human nature.

This is why I go out of my way to shoot a mom a sympathetic look and to say "I've been there" or something along those lines. When someone is just starring at you you just feel on display and can only imagine what they're thinking. Wrong or right I think it's pretty common.

FWIW most of the time I get looks from people who have no children with them so I don't know if it's a "one child only" thing. I know when I had no kids I knew EVERYTHING about kids. I would NEVER let my baby sleep in my bed with me, I would NEVER let my kid still poop in his diaper at age 3 (I mean hello just take them away how hard is that?! ...riiiigght).
Some people have a different sympathetic look then other people. I have had a lot of times where I was feeling one way and thought I looked one way and then someone who knows me well asks me why I am feeling another way and it totally takes me off guard. For me this indicates another reason not to put so much emphasis on anyones ability to read other people's looks even if I do know the person well. Unless you really can read minds you will probably be much happier assuming the thing that is least likely to make you feel self concious, unless of course you are feeling the need for a spell of indignation.
post #14 of 24
Thank you for posting this....somedays I feel like i'm the only one with a spirited little boy who makes almost every outing an "adventure". I just had one of those adventures today....
post #15 of 24

You are fine!

Come to the locker room at my Y after the kids had thier swimming lessons.

DD2 is always hiding the lockers. As long as she is in the same bay, I let her as I'm trying to get my 5 year old dressed and am prompting the 7 year old.

Sometimes I'd bring a small ball or toy, or play "I see something" or another word game to keep them occupied while we transition. Sometimes it worked, sometimes not.

As for the critical moms, they prolly haven't seen themselves in action and are showing their selective memories Everyone has a crazy time when getting kids from one activity to another.
post #16 of 24
I'm sorry you felt so criticized! I only have one, but he's like 1 1/2 kids!
Here's my latest Y locker room story...
Back story - I've been trying to get DS to stop feeling me up. He was never BF, so I don't know why he feels entitled to them, but when he reaches into my bra and pinches, I say "No touching Mommy's boobs. Those are mine." He repeats solomnly "No touching Mommy's boots" (Note pronounciation.)

The other day we were in the locker room and an older woman was getting dressed and about to put on her bra. DS pointed in her general direction (thankfully, it could have been seen as pointing at an open locker just behind her) and said "Those aren't *our* BOOTS! No touching!" I was mortified, but I'm pretty sure nobody understood what he was really saying!

Most of the old ladies and the gym smile knowingly as I chase DS through the locker room and most of what I call "grocery store moments" are along the lines of "you'll miss this soon enough - it goes so fast!" Generally, I don't have time to see what other people look like, I'm too busy chasing the whirling dirvish!

In any case, hugs! Hope tomorrow is generally a better day!
Cyndi
post #17 of 24
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... Some people just have no idea what persistence can look like.
Thank you for putting into words my feelings when I get the "Wow, you really have your hands full." and all the looks when DD is having a wild day. A spirited child can make you a lonely parent in a play group sometimes.
post #18 of 24
I try to help moms I see in those situations, but it's hard to do it without worrying that you're stepping on someone's toes, you know? ;-) Usually, the biggest "help" I can be is to ask *my* son to stop doing whatever it is the other child is being asked to stop doing, so he doesn't incite further chaos. Even if it's something that I don't mind if he does, I'll say, "It sounds like your new friend is being asked not to_________. Let's stop playing that game for now."

I also will occasionally "reinforce" what I hear another parent say, if it sounds like a good idea. Like, if a mom says, "DC, please come here so we can put on your jacket," and the child is near me and not being responsive, I'll say "Oh, is it time for your jacket to go on? Yes, it's cold outside! Jackets sound like a GREAT idea! Should you go to your Mommy to get your jacket?" Sometimes having a random adult talking to you is enough to make being near Mommy seem like a really good thing. ;-)

But... I usually only will "try to help" in places like the Y, or other family-oriented places, when I have my son with me. I don't want people to think that I'm a weirdo, you know? (Although now that I've got a baby belly, I'm more inclined to interact with children even if DS isn't with me, since it puts me automatically in the "mom" category. ;-)

What kind of help do you wish you'd had in this situation? This is a stumper for me sometimes. I will ask people who seem to be physically overwhelmed "Would you like a hand?" but they usually decline. (Though the other day at Whole Foods a mom who was trying to load her groceries on the belt with one hand while holding her nursing large baby/small toddler with the other arm was MORE than happy to let me load them up for her... and couldn't stop thanking me... that was a great feeling!)
post #19 of 24
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I was trying my best to calm him down and asked him "do you want your paci?" and this old man who'd been STARRING at me with a crabby look said "he doesn't need that he's too old!" I said "mind your own business!"
You should have said, "Do you want a paci? Maybe if you had something in your mouth, you wouldn't say rude things!"

I always think of the right thing to say long after the fact.

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**sigh**
It really is amazing how so many other mothers are so critical with each other.
Yeah, I've recently been at the receiving end of a heck of a lot of brutal judgement. I had to remove my family from this playgroup before it got any worse.
post #20 of 24
As a mom of 6, I have had many days like that! What I have learned is that people are more concerned with MY behavior than my child's. I try to remind myself that this is a great opportunity for me to demonstrate gentle parenting.

Gentle parenting does not necessarily produce well-behaved children. Its aim is to produce well-behaved adults. That extends to my children, but it starts with me.

When my child throws a fit in public (as sometimes happens) I don't let myself feel or act mortified. This is a child being a child. Now it's time to show people who a mature, loving adult responds.

I know this sounds like I only care what others think, which isn't entirely the case. Above all, I want to do right by my child. But modeling good parenting is also important to me.
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