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post #1 of 15
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For my poor 3yo ds (he rarely gets sick - today got sniffles, cough & 101 fever, tonight he's got the whiney aches & felt warmer - just a cold or does a flu start like this??) Anyway, I would rather let the fever do it's job, but he was way too uncomfortable tonight. I had dh pick up both the ibuprophen & tylenol since I didn't know offhand which was "better". I'm not a medicine person, but I can't stand seeing ds so miserable. The tylenol sounds more benign, but have you ever read the inactive ingredients?! Things like butylparaben, propylene glycol, propylparaben - do I really want to feed this to my son?! Then on the other hand, the ibuprophen has scary warnings about stomach bleeding, etc.

What do you use?
post #2 of 15
In that situation I would probably go with ibupofin as it gives longer relieve (6-8 hrs as opposed to 4). I don't like to overuse medication either, but I also can't let a baby suffer.
post #3 of 15
I use ibuprofen on my daughter also. In small amounts it should be okay. I think the stomach bleading stuff can also happen with tylenol and it usually happens when it is used in excess.
post #4 of 15
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Thanks!
post #5 of 15
Can you get dye free products?

I don't give fever reducers but I will hold them all day and let them watch TV.
post #6 of 15
Wet socks work wonders (a tip from other mom to me).
post #7 of 15
Every household should have Viburcol on hand! It is a homeopathic fever reducer and it works absolute wonders. It is made by Heel and hard to find, so I keep it on hand for emergencies. It is specifically made for infants, but my preschooler uses it, I use it, etc. Normally I let a fever run, but once my infant daughter had a high fever on and off for a few days and I got worried. One dose of Viburcol and she was cured! Now I also use it for headaches, general achiness, etc. I love the stuff, if you couldn't tell!
post #8 of 15
I alternate Ibu & Tylenol every 3 hrs. but check w/a dr if you can.
post #9 of 15
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I alternate Ibu & Tylenol every 3 hrs. but check w/a dr if you can.
Yes, Doctors tell you you can do that but I wouldn't. I would give Ibu. at bedtime and let the fever run its course during the day as long as it is below 103. 104-105 is above my comfort zone and that is when I start giving Motrin. Which btw works faster and longer at reducing fevers.

I will have to check into this Viburcol.
post #10 of 15
I really like my peds advice on fevers. Here are some excepts......


The Nature of Fever
First, let us think about just what fever is. Fever is a very carefully controlled elevation in body temperature. To have a fever, your body temperature must be greater or equal to 100.80; temperatures below 100.80 may be elevated but are not considered fever. The rise in temperature above 100.80 is the result of actions taken by the body, presumably to defend itself.

Therefore, fever rather than being harmful, is actually an attempt to benefit the body.
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Consider how often the temperature rise with fever actually does lose control and increase beyond the safety line. Almost never. It turns out that despite the very frequent jump to 105.0 in childhood, the body’s temperature almost never reaches to 106.0 or beyond. And so it is more realistic to think of fever as very well-controlled temperature rise within the range of 100-105 degrees. Essentially all fever, then, occurs within a narrow 5 degree range, and is not a sign of loss of temperature control or regulation.
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Fever Temperatures are Safe
Despite widespread fear about the heat of fever causing bodily harm, it turns out no harm is caused by the body temperature elevations to the 105.80 range. Infrequently, any degree of fever may trigger a febrile seizure. Although frightening, this event causes no harm. And, for the vast majority of infants and children who do have a seizure provoked by a fever, the rise in temperature has no impact on any of their organs, including the brain.

Treating Fever

While fever may be harmless, occurs frequently in the context of minor viral illnesses, and very rarely exceeds safe levels; it also turns out to be very safe to treat it. Acetaminophen (in brands such as Tylenol™) and ibuprofen (in brands such as Motrin™) both work well in reducing the extent of fever, and appear to be very safe when given properly.

The key to proper use is not exceeding the dosage. Acetaminophen is given every 4 hours up to 5 times per day, in an amount determined by your child’s weight. Ibuprofen is given every 6-8 hours up to 4 times per day, in an amount determined by your child’s weight.

It is fine to give one of these medications in the proper dosage whenever your child is in pain or uncomfortable from their fever. If fever is present, but your child feels fine, there is no need to give these medications. For the point of treating is to improve comfort, making treatment unnecessary if they are comfortable.

Ibuprofen reduces fever and pain to a greater degree than acetaminophen, but has a greater chance to cause abdominal pain. And so I would recommend you treat most mild discomforts with acetaminophen, reserving use of ibuprofen for when the discomfort is significant. There is good evidence that once you start using either acetaminophen or ibuprofen, there is no further reduction in temperature gained if you use both.
post #11 of 15
We are in a special situation here because with my son's skin disorder he does not sweat like other folks do so what we do isn't for everyone so I won't post our fever regimine here...

Just wanted to say it is a really good information to have what "normal" temperature is for your child and you family. The average is just that an average of a while bunch of people combined, your or your childs may be off a degree or 2 compared to the 'average' so in a stressful time when they are "sick" it's difficult to know what's high, low or ok. So get out the therm. and start keeping track for a little bit on your particular body, keeping notes on what was going on when the temp was taken, just woke up, just had a bath, just ran a marathon, just drank a hot cup of tea.... keep that info handy so you can use it in times of sickness to compare to.
post #12 of 15
I found that tylenol reduces my dd's fever whereas ibuprofen doesn't. Its wierd, but thats the way it is with her at this age (22mo). For a while she was running a fever every time she got a cold and she would just sleep better if we gave her some tylenol at bed time. I give her half what the max for her weight is and that seems to work fine. A note, too much tylenol, (ie over the recomended dosage) causes liver damage. Too much Ibu may irritate your stomach and as I understand it is long term use of Ibu that can cause stomach bleeding (but I'm not sure about that).
post #13 of 15
robinCBN, we have the same situation. 3 kids, ibuprofen works on only 2 of them & has no effect on the 3rd, she needs tylenol.

Also I have read that the damage from either is cumulative.

(Not that we use a lot but at night to help them sleep or if the fever is super-high in the daytime)
post #14 of 15
I had heard that they both work a little differently, I guess I hadn't used IB to reduce a fever... perhaps I'm just used to the commercials about tylenol being for fevers. However, I have used IB as a comfort measure... for instance if nothing else is working and they totally aren't getting enough sleep... but even then I just give them a dose at bedtime, and not throughout the night.

Yes high fevers can be scary, however, not all high fevers are a bad thing. Our doctors have said that if your child has a high fever that you really have to look to their behavior as a sign of how they're doing.... if the child is lethargic and unresponsive... yes that's a sign that it could be serious. However, a high fever in and of itself doesn't always mean big problems.

Also, I have found that if I give my child a pain reliever that his fever goes up after the dose has worn off... I figure that he needs his fever to burn off the bug that's making him sick. Of course, I am not a medical professional. So take my advice with a grain of salt.
post #15 of 15
I had heard that they both work a little differently, I guess I hadn't used IB to reduce a fever... perhaps I'm just used to the commercials about tylenol being for fevers. However, I have used IB as a comfort measure... for instance if nothing else is working and they totally aren't getting enough sleep... but even then I just give them a dose at bedtime, and not throughout the night.

Yes high fevers can be scary, however, not all high fevers are a bad thing. Our doctors have said that if your child has a high fever that you really have to look to their behavior as a sign of how they're doing.... if the child is lethargic and unresponsive... yes that's a sign that it could be serious. However, a high fever in and of itself doesn't always mean big problems.

Also, I have found that if I give my child a pain reliever that his fever goes up after the dose has worn off... I figure that he needs his fever to burn off the bug that's making him sick. Of course, I am not a medical professional. So take my advice with a grain of salt.

Yes, Tylenol is hard on the liver and Ibuprofen can be harsh on the stomach. All things in moderation. Like it says on the packaging if you're giving your child either one for more than a week you need to see your doctor.
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