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Originally Posted by boredgamer31 View Post
Hi all I am new here and this is my first post. My wife has turned me onto this site as she is most definetely a crunchy mom, while I looked at myself as a mainstream dad.
Everettdaddy I am with you on this, well I was. As a dad I want my children to listen to me when I tell them to do something. I find it to be very frustrating when I tell my 4 year old to do something and suddenly I am in the midst of hostile negotiations. There is screaming and crying and temper tantrums gallore, ususally from me, becasue I am not being listened to.
Seriously though I came from a family where the children listened to the parents, especially as little ones and there would be spankings or serious alone time in a bedrooms if our "acts" were not gotten together.
I grew up that way and it worked for my folks. So as a parent I simply wanted to do what I knew had worked on me as a kid and this is where a lot of our problems started to occur. My son is not me, he is his own individual and the punishments that worked on me seemed to only esculate the issues with him. My wife and I tried everything with some things working some of the time and others not working at all.
Ultimately it was my wife who uncovered the gentle discipline techniques that we use now. I have to say what a difference it makes. You see there is a parental perception on how things should go and then there is reality. My perception was, I am the father and I should be listened to and I became all the more upset when my son would not do as I "perceived" he should do. The reality is he is four years old. He knows what he wants and as his parents we have spent his entire life giving him what he wants and needs. Now he is at an age where we say no to him for any number of reasons and it goes against what he has learned through repetitious behavior. He has no emotional capability of calmly explaining to me that my saying no to him goes against years of catering to his needs. He simply thinks I am being mean and gets frustrated and upset by it.
The reality is I have given up on the "father knows best" line of thinking. I don't. Instead I work very hard at staying calm and making sure that he can feel like an individual and a critical member within our house. I give him the chance to argue his case, I listen to what he says and I stand by my decisions, but I no longer do it as a hard case. Instead I steer him into understanding why I have said no to something.
Needless to say, respecting my son as a person and fellow human being has in turn allowed my son to give me the respect I feel that I should get from him. Again I am not a push over to his will. If there is a bed time rule, or dinner rule or a sharing rule then I will enforce the rule but instead of the, "do it because I said so" routine I now will say this what we are doing, here are some options, tell me what you think.
I also no longer just anounce at any old time when my son has to do something. I now give him some warning so he isn't taken by surprise. The idea is to let him know when something is going to happen as it will lessen the emotional out bursts.
I don't know if this post will give you any insight as to what you should or should not do when dealing with your children. You are put in an even harder situation as several of those children came from another father. You now have to deal with the "you're not my daddy" line of thinking as well. Just remember that they are children. They do not come pre loaded with the ability to rationalize and think they way we do as adults. Their brains are still developing and changing. Their neurons are still creating electrical pathways for their emotional, creative and even logical learnings. You won't be able to see eye to eye with them unless you get to their level of thought. Show them respect, treat them like human beings and not as people that have to listen to you because you are the man. It will take more than love for them and their mother to get you all through this and I wish you the best of luck.



hey gamer, can i print this out and laminate or frame cause that it the most insightful view ive ever read, from a man or woman
post #42 of 45
I am sorry, this tottally off topic but can someone please tell me what "crunchy" is??? I keep hearing this term. Please excuse my ignorance an tell me.
post #43 of 45
Crunchy as in Granola-crunchy. Meaning along the lines of "natural, 60's mindset, natural living, organic" etc..make sense??
post #44 of 45
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Originally Posted by LukesMum View Post
Crunchy as in Granola-crunchy. Meaning along the lines of "natural, 60's mindset, natural living, organic" etc..make sense??
oh ok. . duh thanks. i guess that makes me crunchy!
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Originally Posted by MayBaby2007 View Post
If I met/married a man other than my daughter's father and he argued with me about how I discipine/raise MY daughter or if he disciplined my daughter any way other than what I find acceptable, he'd be out of my house. Period. I don't know what your situation is/don't know what kind of relationship you have with your partner--but if it were me, you would have been out a long time ago. As for the child you have WITH her, that's got to be compromised/agreed on. But for the 3 kids that are HERS--you have no right arguing with her, IMO.

That's just a personal opinion, of course. My eye just caught this post and couldn't refrain from responding. I don't know too many mothers (or fathers for that matter) who would allow a new partner to take over the discipline/raising of their kids. That's just one of those "don't go there" things. That's just not cool. I'd rebel like crazy if, when I was younger, my mom married some guy and he decided he was my new disciplinarian. That's just wrong. The 3 older kids should be completely up to HER. The ONE child you have together is different and you have to come to an agreement. Hope you come to an agreement soon.

I completely disagree with this. If someone is your parenting partner, they should be your parenting partner for all your children. I don't think you should have different rules for children depending on who their father is. It is extremely hard for the children to deal with. It might not matter that much right now since the baby is only 18 months, but as they grow up it will probably cause a lot of resentment that they don't all have the same rules. I think the OPer and his DW need to find common ground so they can actually parent as partners for all 4 children.
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