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post #1 of 19
3/24/08 at 12:09pm
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Ok so I've really never read pro-circ websites and this is why.

Breast Cancer in Female Partners of Uncircumcised Men

BREAST CANCER

Ten studies since 1999 have documented high-risk HPVs in breast tumours [331]. The type(s) in breast were identical to those in the cervix of women with cervical cancer [242, 622]. This led to the suggestion of transmission during sexual activity [281]. In support of this women with HPV-positive breast cancer are significantly younger than those with HPV-negative breast cancer [332]. Thus an uncircumcised male partner may also increase a woman’s risk of breast cancer, which is a very common cancer in women.

I find it strange at most pro-circ websites you cannnot contact that person the person who made the site for further questions. HUM...

www.circinfo.net (makes me so upset.)
post #2 of 19
3/24/08 at 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by 00646 View Post
Ok so I've really never read pro-circ websites and this is why.

Breast Cancer in Female Partners of Uncircumcised Men

BREAST CANCER

Ten studies since 1999 have documented high-risk HPVs in breast tumours [331]. The type(s) in breast were identical to those in the cervix of women with cervical cancer [242, 622]. This led to the suggestion of transmission during sexual activity [281]. In support of this women with HPV-positive breast cancer are significantly younger than those with HPV-negative breast cancer [332]. Thus an uncircumcised male partner may also increase a woman’s risk of breast cancer, which is a very common cancer in women.

I find it strange at most pro-circ websites you cannnot contact that person the person who made the site for further questions. HUM...

www.circinfo.net (makes me so upset.)
I also heard that women with uncircumcised partners have a good change of going blind. If you really want to know I can give you the contact info for that particular site.
post #3 of 19
3/24/08 at 1:25pm
Brian Morris is one of the biggest circumcision promoters out there. He does a nice job making a pretty web site that looks legitimate, but you'll notice that none of his links are actually medical web sites (though his first link is to Dr Edgar Schoen, an even bigger circumcision promoter than Morris. This guy writes poetry about penises).

It is upsetting that this site will come up for innocent parents looking for reliable information. Lots of folks who claim to have "researched" infant circumcision don't get any farther than this site, because it reinforces what they already believe, and it looks believable.
post #4 of 19
4/6/08 at 11:10pm
I've been poking around this website today, and was getting more and more aghast until I started chuckling at the title link that the OP is referring to. I mean, come on!
post #5 of 19
4/6/08 at 11:47pm
: There are links on the site to a few discussion groups (albeit dead or moved, they are still there) that are clearly for people who have a sex fetish for circumcision! Who the heck is this Morris guy, anyways? (yeah I read the brief auto-bio page)
post #6 of 19
4/6/08 at 11:52pm
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Originally Posted by JesseMomme View Post
: There are links on the site to a few discussion groups (albeit dead or moved, they are still there) that are clearly for people who have a sex fetish for circumcision! Who the heck is this Morris guy, anyways? (yeah I read the brief auto-bio page)
He is the Australian Schoen; top circumcision advocate in Australia here is a rebuttal of some of the BS on his page. All of what he says is a crock BTW.
post #7 of 19
4/7/08 at 10:23am
Morris is known to play fast and loose with the truth. Just last year, he was caught trying to get a study published in The Lancet, The journal of the British Medical Association making a case that there is a correlation between circumcision status and prostate cancer. The Lancet had accepted the study for publication but then found out that his cohorts had never actually met in person and decided not to publish the faked study. They also found out that one of his supposed cohorts didn't even have any medical or scientific training at all.

This type of deception by the pro circumcision forces goes back to the very beginings of circumcision but in all my experience, I have never seen an instance of it from the intactivist movement. I wonder why that is? Why are they willing to risk their professional careers to promote circumcision?



Frank
post #8 of 19
4/7/08 at 11:37am
The front page of his website shows a "circumcised" banana. How can anyone take him seriously?

I recall seeing one article he wrote that said circumcision was basically a "vaccine" against just about everything. Idiot.
post #9 of 19
4/8/08 at 12:33am
another snippet off his website:

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In fact respiratory tract infections in uncircumcised infants in this study were twice as high as in the circumcised (21% vs. 11%).
foreskins cause respiratory tract infections...hmmmmm
post #10 of 19
4/9/08 at 2:27am
That circumcised banana creeps me out.

And... it's a bad analogy for their cause, anyway, because as soon as you take the peel off of a banana, it starts turning brown.
post #11 of 19
4/9/08 at 2:47am
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Originally Posted by blizzard_babe View Post
That circumcised banana creeps me out.

And... it's a bad analogy for their cause, anyway, because as soon as you take the peel off of a banana, it starts turning brown.
: and :
post #12 of 19
4/9/08 at 11:16am
some of the posts on this thread are cracking me up! i love MDC!!

but seriously, if people really believe all this pro-circ garbage that circ prevents cancer, STDs, etc, then how do they explain that the 80% of the world who doesn't circ doesn't have a markedly higher prevalence of all these diseases? i realize that's simplifying it quite a bit into a broad generalization, but i think it's a good point nonetheless!
post #13 of 19
4/9/08 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by 00646 View Post
I find it strange at most pro-circ websites you cannnot contact that person the person who made the site for further questions. HUM...

www.circinfo.net (makes me so upset.)

Actually, you probably can. Go to www.register.com and do a "Whois" look-up. Usually the contact information for the site owner is there, both snail mail and e-mail as well as a telephone number.


Frank
post #14 of 19
4/9/08 at 7:27pm
And other times, not. I know a lot of registry sites have the ability to make your WHOIS anonymous for a small fee. I have it enabled on most of my websites. I'm not sure if contacting them would do much good. You could start a possibly endless back and forth e-mail conversation that will only end up frustrating you.
post #15 of 19
4/9/08 at 7:36pm
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Originally Posted by Microsoap View Post
And other times, not. I know a lot of registry sites have the ability to make your WHOIS anonymous for a small fee. I have it enabled on most of my websites. I'm not sure if contacting them would do much good. You could start a possibly endless back and forth e-mail conversation that will only end up frustrating you.
Although I don't doubt that this is a possible service, I believe it runs counter to ICANN's policy that domain holders must keep there info up-to date and accurate or risk having their domain forfeited.
post #16 of 19
4/9/08 at 7:43pm
Well, I think it's like this-- the registry (Register or GoDaddy, etc.) have your personal contact information, it's just that information isn't made publicly. Which is why some choose to use that option. The ones I have are listed as:

Registrant:
Domain Discreet
ATTN: ntvnat.com
P.O. Box 278
Yarmouth, NS B5A 4B2
CA
post #17 of 19
4/9/08 at 7:56pm
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Originally Posted by Microsoap View Post
Well, I think it's like this-- the registry (Register or GoDaddy, etc.) have your personal contact information, it's just that information isn't made publicly. Which is why some choose to use that option. The ones I have are listed as:

Registrant:
Domain Discreet
ATTN: ntvnat.com
P.O. Box 278
Yarmouth, NS B5A 4B2
CA
You might be right, I don't know the exact details of the policy. There proabably has to be some contact point and the service provider can be the middle man or something. I never really knew about that until I read the story on /.
post #18 of 19
4/9/08 at 11:25pm
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Originally Posted by Microsoap View Post
Well, I think it's like this-- the registry (Register or GoDaddy, etc.) have your personal contact information, it's just that information isn't made publicly. Which is why some choose to use that option. The ones I have are listed as:

Registrant:
Domain Discreet
ATTN: ntvnat.com
P.O. Box 278
Yarmouth, NS B5A 4B2
CA

Yes, your information is kept for notification and billing purposes but is not made public. I'm very careful about not putting my real information (about anything) on the internet and this is one way. There is a pseudo name I use and many who have "known" me for years think that is my real name.

In this issue, the passions can become so heated that I don't want anyone to be able to look up my address and possibly use that information against me.


Frank
post #19 of 19
4/9/08 at 11:50pm
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Originally Posted by blizzard_babe View Post
That circumcised banana creeps me out.

And... it's a bad analogy for their cause, anyway, because as soon as you take the peel off of a banana, it starts turning brown.
I'm sorry, but that made me laugh out loud!
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