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post #1 of 18
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The house where I live in Phuket Thailand gets it's water from a well in the garden, it goes into tanks that are next to the house and then into the house.

Do I have to treat the water in any way to use it in a birth pool?
post #2 of 18
Do you treat it before you drink it? What about baths?
post #3 of 18
Is your water safe for drinking and bathing? We have untreated well water. It has been tested for safety. I used it for the birth pool. I've heard that if you are concerned you can add something like a couple cap fulls of bleach to the water. Personally though, I didn't feel it was an issue and wanted to avoid having bleach in the water.
post #4 of 18
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Originally Posted by lilylove View Post
Is your water safe for drinking and bathing? We have untreated well water. It has been tested for safety. I used it for the birth pool. I've heard that if you are concerned you can add something like a couple cap fulls of bleach to the water. Personally though, I didn't feel it was an issue and wanted to avoid having bleach in the water.
I don't drink the water from the tap. I don't have a bath tub but I would bathe in it if I did, I shower with it, brush teeth with it and wash dishes with it, it looks clean and doesn't smell like anything but thats all I know, I don't have access to any test kits unless I would order it from overseas.
post #5 of 18
Why will you wash your teeth and dishes with it but not drink it?
post #6 of 18
Around here, I'd do a waterbirth with well water long before I ever used the city water...
post #7 of 18
You can always add a cupful of salt to the birth pool. That would be better than bleach.
post #8 of 18
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Why will you wash your teeth and dishes with it but not drink it?
I don't know much about diseases and bacteria in water, but my belief until I learn I am wrong is that the chance to catch something is bigger if I drink a couple of litres every day?

If I brush my teeth and shower I don't swallow any water and with dishes I use dishwashing liquid and dry them.


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Originally Posted by StacyL
You can always add a cupful of salt to the birth pool. That would be better than bleach.
I like that idea, that would kill anything harmful?
post #9 of 18
My MW also recommends salt in the birth pool water, we also have well water which is untreated and I used this last time round, with just a cupfull of coarse salt, and plan to do this again in july.
post #10 of 18
You can use salt or not use salt - just don't use iodized salt...it is really whatever you prefer. You can use well water with no problem, although AquaDoula makes a filter that you can use for your well water if you want - i think you can order it through them directly. I have lots of ladies use well water - but they all live in the states.
I would say your water is completely safe to labor in, you might want to get out to deliver the baby just because if you don't trust it enough to drink it, you might not want any to get in your baby's mouth and nose.
jeni
post #11 of 18
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You can use salt or not use salt - just don't use iodized salt...it is really whatever you prefer. You can use well water with no problem, although AquaDoula makes a filter that you can use for your well water if you want - i think you can order it through them directly. I have lots of ladies use well water - but they all live in the states.
I would say your water is completely safe to labor in, you might want to get out to deliver the baby just because if you don't trust it enough to drink it, you might not want any to get in your baby's mouth and nose.
jeni
Just wondering why not iodized salt? I asked my MW last time and she said either was fine, though I usually buy natural non-iodized salt for home use, I am wondering if there is a specific reason to avoid it in the birth pool.

Deethai - salt will kill pretty much any bacteria and nasties you may have in your water. We living in SA don't have the cleanest water, this includes our well water, had it tested and some of the fecal coliform and bacteria were higher than should be, but we just filter it for drinking and use it straight for everything else, including the birth pool and we have not had any pro blems. I still trust it more than water in cities where it is full of chemicals on top of the bacteria.
post #12 of 18
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Yes I would also like to know more about why iodized salt is not to be used? Simply cause that's all I see in the stores, so I am not sure where to get non-iodized salt.
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post #14 of 18
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Yes I would also like to know more about why iodized salt is not to be used? Simply cause that's all I see in the stores, so I am not sure where to get non-iodized salt.

I ususally get it from the healthshop here, but I asked my MW again and she says iodised is OK, so if you cannot get the non-iodised one you can always use the one from the supermarket, I doubt there is enough iodine in there unless you chuck tons of salt in. For a regular bath about 1/4 cup should be enough and for a birthing pool about 1/2 cup.
post #15 of 18
There are typically four concerns with water sources, chemical contaminants, bacterial contaminants, taste and sediments.

Taste is separate from safety. There is some perfectly safe water that has so much sulfer or metallic flavor that it's almost undrinkable.
Sediment is usually just a problem with pipes and filters and the appearance of the water. It can make the water look dirty, when it isn't. In my experience, I've wondered if there was meconium on the bottom of the tub, but it was sediment instead.
Bacterial concerns are the ones where the water is not safe to drink, brush teeth, or bathe in - the water on your toothbrush or going up your nose can be enough to get you sick, especially if you're immune compromised. You shouldn't labor or birth in water that has this type of bacterial contamination. Bleach or iodine could be used to kill the bacteria, but it seems like a bad idea if there were any other options.
Chemical contaminations of water - it can be okay (or not okay, depending) to shower or brush teeth in this water - ie, take in small quantities but not large. It all depends on the issue. Usually, certain chemicals are known to be a problem in a certain area - in my county, it's a raspberry pesticide that's harmful in very small quantities. You keep your mouth closed in the shower if you're in a contaminated area. Birthing in this water would be fine or not a good idea, depending on the contaminant.

Here in the US, you usually take a sample to a local water testing place, often the health department or university extension. They know the local issues to test for...I'm really not sure what the equivilent would be in Thailand.

I have never seen any evidence that salt would be helpful for reducing bacteria in a birth pool - at least at concentrations that wouldn't make you float on top of the water. The most common bacteria to contaminate water would be human bacteria - fecal coliforms or even strep off the mother's body (for people that use the tub over days or weeks without refilling). Those bacteria thrive in a slightly salty environment.

My calculations - human body -.9% salt
Birth Tub - 250 gallons = about 2000 pounds
One half cup of salt = 4 ounces
.25/2000=0.01% salt in the pool
Not going to hurt the bacteria at all. In fact, they might like it.

Forgot to answer the orginal question: in the absence of other information - I think it will be fine to use it, with the usual caveats - I don't think you should fill a pool with warm water and let it sit around for days at a time in the air. A freshly filled warm water pool is safe for day or two without anything to prevent bacterial growth, as long as it's safe to drink.
post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by deethai View Post
Yes I would also like to know more about why iodized salt is not to be used? Simply cause that's all I see in the stores, so I am not sure where to get non-iodized salt.

No need to go to a health food store. You can get kosher salt (coarse, no-iodine) at just about any market.
post #17 of 18
The Watersafe All-In-One Drinking Water Test is only about $18. Google it.

Also check consumerreports.org for a review.

Much cheaper than sending your water to a lab.
post #18 of 18

a cup of salt won't kill bacteria!!!

(or affect environmental chemical contaminants in the water...)

Apricot is right. I'm about to get my PhD in molecular biology and a cup of water in a birth pool is not going to kill bacteria at all. They will definitely be happier!!

The salt would probably help keep your skin from getting wrinkled (I don't know that for sure. The perfectly right concentration would, but it's a sunday night so I don't feel like doing all the exact math to see if a cup would be enough!) Maybe that's really why a midwife told someone to add it...

I visited Thailand 10 years ago... if it were me, I would probably feel comfortable laboring in the birth pool, but I would be giving birth on dry land. From what I observed, it doesn't seem like the government there has extremely high environmental standards and I would be afraid of having unknown chemicals or bacteria be the first thing my newborn baby ingests.

HTH.
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