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post #41 of 87
Ashes- where's your update of evening activity??!!!






hope everything went well at the dentist, and that you are feeling okay....
post #42 of 87
I posted last night... but I guess maybe the page timed out and I didn't pay attention?....

The weather was nasty yesterday evening, so I ended up doing some cleaning inside instead. I got down on hands and knees and scrubbed my kitchen floor. WHEW it needed it! And I think that was more of a work out than walking or weeding would have been!

All the leaning over though has been killing my tooth It should come out Thursday though, and I hope to feel much better afterward.

It's supposed to be pretty out this evening though, so I *will* get my walking in!

Do any of you weigh on a regular basis? In the past, I've found it helpful to keep tabs on progress every three to four days. If I see no gain, it is very encouraging. BUT my scales seem to have gone to crap.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a new set?
post #43 of 87
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Originally Posted by kristenok18 View Post
Ashes- where's your update of evening activity??!!!






hope everything went well at the dentist, and that you are feeling okay....
awwwwwww!!! thank you thank you thank you thank you for that! We cross posted though. I did post but MDC ate it. I scrubbed my kitchen tile instead.
post #44 of 87
Ashes- I weigh myself every morning, though I'm trying not to get discouraged. With all the exercise I've been doing, I don't see it going down! Dh keeps reminding me that I'm building muscle, which weighs more than fat, but it's still hard to not see a change. He wants me to stop weighing, but if I do, then I tend to overeat without realizing it. We have a digital scale, which I really like.

Today is going to be a beautiful day, and I'm going to be stuck indoors! Wah!!! I have an early cycle u/s mid-morning (screws up our park playdate, darnit), and then I work at the Y this afternoon. Since I won't be able to work out at the Y today (due to work schedule and dh being out of town and limits on how long ds can be in the childwatch), I'm trying to force myself to do a workout video this morning. I'm not moving too fast, though. Hopefully I'll get off my heiny (and mdc! ), and report back in an hour that I got a good workout in!
post #45 of 87
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Originally Posted by ashesofyou View Post

Oh, and to the PP who seemed to advocate diet soda to a person suffering from infertility. ----> :
If I interpreted wrong, I apologize, but it's not nice to encourage a person to do the thing they are looking for support to be strong against.
I am not sure if you meant my comment earlier, but I did NOT mean to advocate drinking diet soda. I was wondering what she knew about it that made it so evil. Gosh, I feel like everything on this thread that I say gets interpreted differently then how I intended it.
post #46 of 87
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I am not sure if you meant my comment earlier, but I did NOT mean to advocate drinking diet soda. I was wondering what she knew about it that made it so evil. Gosh, I feel like everything on this thread that I say gets interpreted differently then how I intended it.
Yes, I think I was referring to your post. I read it wrong then, I'm sorry. It's difficult to get the right thing across sometimes in print. And it's also easy to read meaning that isn't necessarily there.

I apologize.
post #47 of 87
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I am not sure if you meant my comment earlier, but I did NOT mean to advocate drinking diet soda. I was wondering what she knew about it that made it so evil. Gosh, I feel like everything on this thread that I say gets interpreted differently then how I intended it.
Something that helps me is to not think "what's so bad about ________ ?", but more "how is this food going to nourish me and help me to be more healthy?"

It's only day two of my cleanse diet, but it's my first one with no coffee or black tea, so I'm pretty proud of myself! I have been drinking green tea because I am scared of the complete caffeine withdrawal headache. Green tea is okay, but I am probably drinking too much so I will ease off over the next couple of days.

I have this weird bitter taste in my mouth all the time that is making things I normally like taste awful, what's up with that? Due to the green tea of the elimination diet or? Any ideas?

Good for you, Ashes, for your aerobic floor scrubbing!!! I am inspired!
post #48 of 87
Something that helps me is to not think "what's so bad about ________ ?", but more "how is this food going to nourish me and help me to be more healthy?"




I love that! I am going to use it! Good luck ladies!
post #49 of 87
It was on the cool side last night, but I still got my exercise in! My SIL and I walked last night, we ended up going twice around the block because we were having such a good time visiting each other, and gossiping . SOOOO we ended up walking for an hour!
post #50 of 87
Yay! I ended up doing a Walk Away The Pounds (walk to jog) video in the morning, and 1/2 a tae bo video that I haven't used in about 10 years. I was feeling so crummy yesterday after my dr's appt and with dh out of town that I ended up eating horrible food (and way too much of it) for supper. So I recruited ds to do the WATP video with me again. Probably didn't do anything to reverse the damage done by what I ate, but oh well.

I watched part of Nova program last night on people training for the Boston marathon (first-timers). They followed them from before training through to the marathon, and did various body/breathing checks and measurements at the beginning and then half-way through the training process. They noted that while their VO2 capacity increased dramatically, their weight/body composition didn't change all that much, even with all the running. What seemed KEY for weightloss was diet, and that exercise helped maintain weight (among other health benefits).
post #51 of 87
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Originally Posted by kristenok18 View Post
Yay! I ended up doing a Walk Away The Pounds (walk to jog) video in the morning, and 1/2 a tae bo video that I haven't used in about 10 years. I was feeling so crummy yesterday after my dr's appt and with dh out of town that I ended up eating horrible food (and way too much of it) for supper. So I recruited ds to do the WATP video with me again. Probably didn't do anything to reverse the damage done by what I ate, but oh well.

I watched part of Nova program last night on people training for the Boston marathon (first-timers). They followed them from before training through to the marathon, and did various body/breathing checks and measurements at the beginning and then half-way through the training process. They noted that while their VO2 capacity increased dramatically, their weight/body composition didn't change all that much, even with all the running. What seemed KEY for weightloss was diet, and that exercise helped maintain weight (among other health benefits).
I'm sorry your appointment didn't go well Do you want to talk about it at all? It's like battling an addiction, being an emotional eater. But don't guilt yourself down so low that you can't get back on the wagon! Today is another day, and it might take more than a ti-bo buttkicking to make up for yesterday, but in the same respect, one day of weakness doesn't undo all the good you have done before!

And I hear you on the weight loss being most reliant on diet. I'm on such a calorie/fat restriction for my current weight, I feel that (slowly) building my activity is going to be absolutely key to keep what metabolism I do have in fat-burning mode rather than OMG THAT B^TCH IS STARVING US mode

FWIW, I'm restricted to 1300 calories/20 fat grams/2000 mg sodium per day. I last weighed a week ago at 224.

I've been having no problems really keeping *under* the limits... my sodium intake was already really low as I tend to cook with herbs and not add salt to my foods. I struggled with staying under the 20 fat grams the first week, but I have had problems getting *enough* calories in.

I have sooooooo many food aversions that I am trying to get myself out of. I want to like fresh veggies so bad. I just cannot make myself eat veggies without smothering them in fat, either dressings or cooking fats.

Anyone have any tips on getting past the gag reflex?
post #52 of 87
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Originally Posted by kristenok18 View Post
I was feeling so crummy yesterday after my dr's appt and with dh out of town that I ended up eating horrible food (and way too much of it) for supper.


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I’ve been getting more consistent with my work outs and adding more weights in my routine. I still run outdoors in the evenings. We live around a lot of hills so its never a straight track type run. I also have a spinning bike at home for when it’s dark, raining, too warm out or when I need to give my knees a break. I have a few sets of hand weights and Yoga mat and blocks. My problem is that I’m not flexible. I’ve very stiff and need to get back into Yoga.
post #53 of 87
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I want to like fresh veggies so bad. I just cannot make myself eat veggies without smothering them in fat, either dressings or cooking fats.

Anyone have any tips on getting past the gag reflex?
I have found that grilling veggies really brings out a DELICIOUS taste. You can lightly brush olive oil or use an all natural oil spray and then sprinkle with fresh herbs, kosher salt and fresh pepper and grill it over med-high heat until its ready. It's delicous.
post #54 of 87
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I have found that grilling veggies really brings out a DELICIOUS taste. You can lightly brush olive oil or use an all natural oil spray and then sprinkle with fresh herbs, kosher salt and fresh pepper and grill it over med-high heat until its ready. It's delicous.
Ooooh that does sound good. I can use my mazolla naturals spray, there is no fat added with it's use. I grill chicken on Sundays that I use for my lunches during the week, and use different seasonings to vary the flavors.

Which veggies would you suggest to try this way? I'm up for suggestions, because if there ever was a thing as an anti-vegetable diet, it's what I've been living for my entire life.
post #55 of 87
Maybe I should also add, the food aversions seem to come more from texture than taste. I can eat cooked carrots as long as they are cooked nearly to mush, or if they are shredded very finely and hidden in a romaine or leaf lettuce based salad along with a cream based dressing.

If a vegetable feels waxy or filmy against my teeth or tongue all bets are off. I cannot bite the center stems of larger romaine leaves, and raw cabbage, green beans, cucumbers, and iceberg lettuce squeak inside my mouth and make me nauseated to the point of running from the table to the restroom.

I don't necessarily dislike the flavors of these things, and will tolerate most cooked vegetables in soups or cooked to the point of being a completely different texture... which destroys a lot of the benefits of the foods just tolerate. I really need to make vegetables into the majority of my diet.
post #56 of 87
could this be a mental thing? I found that if you just accept that its good for you and REALLY try it with an open mind, you can pretty much like anything. As for the grilled veggies that would fit your criteria: Zuchinni (cut in half then half again), yellow squash, eggplant, broccoli (par boil for two minutes prior to gilling), asparagus, carrots, sweet potatoes. Good luck! let me know if it works!!!!
post #57 of 87
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Go Ashesofyou!!! First scrub-a-cize, now gossip-a-size. Good for you.

Regarding veggies, hmmm. How about chopping raw veggies very finely in a food chopper and mixing with sandwich fillings, spaghetti sauces etc? My only experience with texture issues was with non-iceberg lettuce. I grew up on iceberg and I could not deal with the leafy texture of other lettuces. I only started eating them because I had a roommate who used them in salads and I will always eat what others prepare. I went ahead and used a ton of creamy dressing and just used less and less over time. Guess you don't have time for that though, eh?

My favourite soup in lentil vegetable. It's those split pea type yellow lentils (chana dal) and I just throw in all kinds of veggies (onion, carrot, yam, squash, parsnip). You don't even have to chop them properly, because when it's all cooked up, you can use a hand blender and it's yummy creamy soup. I usually use curry to spice it up. I know you want to be eating fresh or lightly cooked veggies, but mushy ones are better than none, right?

Little exercise for me today, long work day and dr appointment for dd. But I am still on the diet, it's day 3 but feels like forever since I had wheat, dairy, coffee...... eeeeeeee

Tomorrow, some walking with the jogging stroller.

Good luck to you all!!!
post #58 of 87
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Originally Posted by ashesofyou View Post
Ooooh that does sound good. I can use my mazolla naturals spray, there is no fat added with it's use. I grill chicken on Sundays that I use for my lunches during the week, and use different seasonings to vary the flavors.

Which veggies would you suggest to try this way? I'm up for suggestions, because if there ever was a thing as an anti-vegetable diet, it's what I've been living for my entire life.
Saw this on the main board and thought I'd pop in because we love love love to grill veggies, and I grew up only eating corn. So I've come a looooong way in the past few years We do red peppers, asparagus, mushrooms, zuchini (sp?). A little olive oil which is super healthy for anyone, salt, pepper, garlic powder. Sometimes balsamic vinegar, sometimes this wonderfully yummy marindade from the health food store called veri veri teriyaki-I love it on everything-meat, rice, pasta, veggies! It only has 1g of fat/0 trans
Happy grilling!!
Chelsie
PS from the sounds of it you are trying to lose weight...? I didn't read all the posts, but that's the gist of what I got. I don't know if you are doing this or not, but if you aren't you may want to try eating healthy snacks every 2 hours around your healthy meals. The reasoning is that it keeps the body's metabolism going so that it will burn off what's stored. If you don't keep the metabolism going then it just keeps adding to the stores. It's kinda reverse psychology for the body...
Another thing that comes to mind is either the Eat Right For Your Type Diet or The Genotype Diet. My body is really liking the genotype diet. Forgive me if I'm repeating stuff you already know or are doing.
Good Luck!
post #59 of 87
ashes- have you tried juicing your vegetables? There are tons of great recipes, and you add in just enough fruit to make it sweet. That might a way to get past texture issues. My inlaws are the same way about veggies. They have to be cooked until they are mush before anyone will touch them. And mushy veggies make me want to gag! Maybe it's a regional thing? (they're from the south, too).

crm- good for you for sticking to your detox diet!

I was able to squeeze in a 45 min w/o at the Y yesterday, and I took ds and my dog for a long walk in the wind and sunshine. I didn't binge last night, but I did eat more than I should. But it was all good stuff! Red and green pepper and broccoli stirfry with shrimp, over a small portion of brown/white mixed rice. I need new gym shoes desperately, but I don't think they are in the budget for this pay period. Dh really wants me to start running, but that would also require the purchase of a very expensive sports bra ($55+). I tried tripling up with the sports bras I've been using while jogging, and it felt like I wasn't wearing anything!!! I guess I'll stick to the elliptical trainer for now. Anyone else dealing with the problem of exercising with giant boobs? (I'm an F cup)
post #60 of 87
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Originally Posted by Lauren31 View Post
could this be a mental thing? I found that if you just accept that its good for you and REALLY try it with an open mind, you can pretty much like anything. As for the grilled veggies that would fit your criteria: Zuchinni (cut in half then half again), yellow squash, eggplant, broccoli (par boil for two minutes prior to gilling), asparagus, carrots, sweet potatoes. Good luck! let me know if it works!!!!
I'm almost sure it's a mental thing because of the texture issue. I can't remember ever *not* being like this. Possible gross explanation moment ahead, I'll spoiler tag it.
Warning :: Spoiler Ahead! Highlight to read message!
I've never been able to just eat what is on my plate in order to be polite or because I was hungry. As a child, my Mom had finally had enough of me being a "picky eater", and I would cry and cry because I was trying. I remember one particular night, I'd put a green bean in my mouth, start to chew, it would squeak on my teeth, and hit the back of my tongue, and I would gag and spit it out. Well this one time she made me sit at the table until I ate my (very small) portion of green beans. I tried, and vomited over the entire table, half the kitchen, and nearly all the way down the hall to the bathroom. I'm terrified this will happen to me again in public. I would want to DIE!
My DH loves just about all foods, and some of the things he orders in restaurants look and smell so good. I guess maybe it's just a matter of desensitizing myself? Keep the exposure at a maximum until I can deal?

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Go Ashesofyou!!! First scrub-a-cize, now gossip-a-size. Good for you.

Regarding veggies, hmmm. How about chopping raw veggies very finely in a food chopper and mixing with sandwich fillings, spaghetti sauces etc? My only experience with texture issues was with non-iceberg lettuce. I grew up on iceberg and I could not deal with the leafy texture of other lettuces. I only started eating them because I had a roommate who used them in salads and I will always eat what others prepare. I went ahead and used a ton of creamy dressing and just used less and less over time. Guess you don't have time for that though, eh?

My favourite soup in lentil vegetable. It's those split pea type yellow lentils (chana dal) and I just throw in all kinds of veggies (onion, carrot, yam, squash, parsnip). You don't even have to chop them properly, because when it's all cooked up, you can use a hand blender and it's yummy creamy soup. I usually use curry to spice it up. I know you want to be eating fresh or lightly cooked veggies, but mushy ones are better than none, right?

Little exercise for me today, long work day and dr appointment for dd. But I am still on the diet, it's day 3 but feels like forever since I had wheat, dairy, coffee...... eeeeeeee

Tomorrow, some walking with the jogging stroller.

Good luck to you all!!!
Gossip-a-size has been so fun!!! My SIL and I walked again last night, but no plans for tonight (I have that tooth yoinking appointment at 11:15 today. I'm scared. :

I have an immersion blender, so I am going to look for recipes that I can use it to make some blended soups. If you have any to share, I'm all for trying to make them!

And you go with your wonder woman self with the elimination diet! Stick with it! (You have PCO, right?) I've heard that eliminating food products that your body cannot process properly can do miracles for infertility. If just plain loosing down to a healthy weight doesn't do it for me, this is the route I'm going to go, especially considering that there are many food allergies on my biological mother's side.

I hope you and your babe have fun today outside for your exercise!

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Originally Posted by prescottchels View Post
Saw this on the main board and thought I'd pop in because we love love love to grill veggies, and I grew up only eating corn. So I've come a looooong way in the past few years We do red peppers, asparagus, mushrooms, zuchini (sp?). A little olive oil which is super healthy for anyone, salt, pepper, garlic powder. Sometimes balsamic vinegar, sometimes this wonderfully yummy marindade from the health food store called veri veri teriyaki-I love it on everything-meat, rice, pasta, veggies! It only has 1g of fat/0 trans
Happy grilling!!
Chelsie
PS from the sounds of it you are trying to lose weight...? I didn't read all the posts, but that's the gist of what I got. I don't know if you are doing this or not, but if you aren't you may want to try eating healthy snacks every 2 hours around your healthy meals. The reasoning is that it keeps the body's metabolism going so that it will burn off what's stored. If you don't keep the metabolism going then it just keeps adding to the stores. It's kinda reverse psychology for the body...
Another thing that comes to mind is either the Eat Right For Your Type Diet or The Genotype Diet. My body is really liking the genotype diet. Forgive me if I'm repeating stuff you already know or are doing.
Good Luck!
Thanks for popping in and offering your experiences as well ! I'm on a doctor supervised low calorie/fat/sodium diet at this point. The whole veggie discussion came from having a hard time keeping my calorie intake up where it should be: 1300 calories/20g fat/2000g sodium. I can't have the olive oil right now. One serving of it contains 14g of fat. At this point I am very obese, no fats at all are recommended to me *right now*, not even nuts. Once I get my BMI down, I can start incorporating these back in with strict limits.

I am trying to keep small nibbles of food accessible, and keep my activity levels up to avoid starvation mode.

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Originally Posted by kristenok18 View Post
ashes- have you tried juicing your vegetables? There are tons of great recipes, and you add in just enough fruit to make it sweet. That might a way to get past texture issues. My inlaws are the same way about veggies. They have to be cooked until they are mush before anyone will touch them. And mushy veggies make me want to gag! Maybe it's a regional thing? (they're from the south, too).

crm- good for you for sticking to your detox diet!

I was able to squeeze in a 45 min w/o at the Y yesterday, and I took ds and my dog for a long walk in the wind and sunshine. I didn't binge last night, but I did eat more than I should. But it was all good stuff! Red and green pepper and broccoli stirfry with shrimp, over a small portion of brown/white mixed rice. I need new gym shoes desperately, but I don't think they are in the budget for this pay period. Dh really wants me to start running, but that would also require the purchase of a very expensive sports bra ($55+). I tried tripling up with the sports bras I've been using while jogging, and it felt like I wasn't wearing anything!!! I guess I'll stick to the elliptical trainer for now. Anyone else dealing with the problem of exercising with giant boobs? (I'm an F cup)

Yay for the Y!!!! And yay for sons and pups on sunny walks!

I've got the boobage, but not to the extent that you do. I'm a DD right now, but usually by the time I get my weight down to about 180-190, I drop to a C cup.

Juicing might be another way to go, but man those machines are expensive! It's getting to be yard sale weather though, I have a few other things I'm looking for, I'll add a juicer to the list!


Good luck today everyone. I've killed enough time, I need to go get ready to go to the scary place :
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