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post #21 of 71
Honestly? Because I know the US schedule is crap, I know there's no way I would inject a tiny little baby, I know there's loads of bad things in vaccines, and I'm too lazy to do all the research on each and every vaccine/disease pair that I would need to do if I were to pursue a delayed/selective schedule when I would likely choose to reject all of them at this time anyway. Maybe that's a dumb reason, but it's good enough for me.

Really, though, the default state is to not do it - I would need to be convinced TO do it. Thus far, I haven't been (see previous statement on laziness and lack of in depth research), and what I have found hasn't led me to trust the vaccines. There's hysteria and fearmongering on "both" sides of the issue in my opinion (as well as a lot of reasonable and passionate and intelligent discussion), and I don't really want to deal with it, so I default to the default of not vaccinating.

And I know vaccine proponents point to people like me to go all "oh noz!!!!" and support their argument that nonvaxers are all ign'ant sheeple, just like we nonvaxers do the same about those who choose to trust their doctors and their government on the issue rather than do their own research, but I don't really care. This works for our family, I take full responsibility for the choice (as does my partner), and that's all that matters to me.
post #22 of 71
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Originally Posted by AniellasMommy View Post
We were coming up on the 18 mo big batch of shots and I had a terrible gut feeling. I KNEW it would be bad. I still have no idea why I felt that way (I'd rather not find out.) But Im glad I didn't and now dd has the benefit of never being vaxed.
You're not alone here....I had a gut feeling too, though not about a particular set of vaccines. Something was off and although ds had been fine through his 6 mo shots (only got the DTaP at that one) something told me something was wrong.....and I couldn't put my finger on it.
post #23 of 71
For us, after researching, it was blatantly apparent that the risks do not outweigh the supposed benefits. There have been NO long term studies on vaccines. None. None to see if they do lead to neurological disorders, to access their effects beyond just a few months or a year. I also have moral issues with injecting animal/human/fetal DNA and cells into my children not to mention all the chemicals.
post #24 of 71
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For us, after researching, it was blatantly apparent that the risks do not outweigh the supposed benefits. There have been NO long term studies on vaccines. None. None to see if they do lead to neurological disorders, to access their effects beyond just a few months or a year.
Yes.

This is so clearly a medical experiment. I refuse to let my children be experimented upon.

We have traded acute illness for chronic illness in recent times. I don't think that's an upgrade.
post #25 of 71
My baby isnt here yet, but we wont be vaxing. There are so many reasons why i am not, but it comes down to the fact that i feel like i can handle a disease, but i have no idea on how to handle a mystery vaxcine reaction. And what i am comfortable with, i feel like i can live with the consequences of not vaxing, and my child getting a complication from it, but i dont think i could ever forgive myself if i went ahead and got my baby vaxed knowing and feeling as i do and there was an issue, or something down the track, i would always be wondering if it was the vax.

I have researched the issue,and it has put my mind at ease about my decision. But my main reasons arnt nessesarlily based upon research so much as supported by it.
post #26 of 71
I was never vaccinated.

My favorite aunt was vaccinated in the 1920s and went into anaphyllatic shock in the doctor's office. I have a niece who is vaccinated and has juvenile arthritis; My nephew is vaccinated and has ADHD and diabetes, all conditions related to the immune system and linked in some way to vaccination. Obviously my family has a history of some problems with immune reactions to vaccines; why stick all of us then? I survived measles, mumps, rubella, pertussis, roseola, rubeola, and the flu many times.

I am suspicious of any condition that is linked to chronic diseases and faulty immune system. I suspect vaccines everytime.

Vaccination comes from a faulty concept of artificial immunity that bypasses the natural barriers to disease and creates a faulty immune response that varies from one individual to another. We are all individuals and react differently to different environmental contamination and situations. That is why one child will die, another child will have allergies, another will have autism, and another will be fine.

We are all different.
post #27 of 71
In all my research I have never found a really compelling reason to vaccinate.

Why would I inject my baby with dangerous foreign material in hopes that it would prevent him from possibly getting an illness that he is extremely unlikely to be exposed to and, if he is exposed AND contracts the illness, would most likely survive with no adverse effects?
post #28 of 71
Many reasons. Couldn't possibly list them all. For me it's mostly a religious conviction, but there are other reasons.

The schedule is ridiculous. I've yet to hear of one person who's actually researched vaccination and still followed the schedule that way it's written. And there's no logical reason why a tiny baby should recieve that many vaccines in one visit anyway.

The road to mandatory vaccination is frought with illogicial reasoning and outright lies. Yet non-vaxers have to fight tooth and nail and are required to justify their decision.
post #29 of 71
for us, we question the allopathic model of medicine and whether or not it is the most effective or appropriate method for us to utilize.

by in large, we feel that it is overvalued and overutilized, and that other methods should be used instead.

for the most part, we believe in good, healthy living with good nutrition, a clean environment (but not over clean because you need a little dirt!), plenty of rest and movement, emotional connection and intellectual stimulation, as well as spiritual practice. we believe this is the foundation of health.

from there, herbalism is a good resource for boosting immune response, etc.

and from there, we value traditional chinese medicine ahead of allopathic medicine, and so we have looked into this system extensively. they don't generally vaccinate, but they do have an herbal process to increase the immune function of the child and prevent extreme infection and create natural antibodies. it's a "sort of" vaccination theory.

and then, of course, there is always the option to utilize allopathic medicine if we need it. but we look at these other elements and see that this may be more appropriate first, and we can always vax later if we feel that we want or need to.
post #30 of 71

I've Just Been Doing It Because that is what we are "suppose" to do!!!

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Originally Posted by JasmineMelody View Post
The second reason is because of all the ingredients that are used in these vaccines. In some of the vaccines, they use baby fetal cells from aborted babies. They also use formeldahyde, aluminum, and other cancer-causing chemicals that I simply can't justify injecting into my baby's little body!
WTF????!!! We are in the military, and I was afraid that we could be stationed anywhere, so I'd rather he be protected, but WTF? fetal cells of aborted babies, #@$%^&* formaldehyde??? They don't even put that in hair dye anymore! On top of that your doctor will tell you not to dye your hair while pregnant for that very reason, so why the He-double hockey sticks is it in the something we are INJECTING into our babies!!!????
post #31 of 71
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WTF????!!! We are in the military, and I was afraid that we could be stationed anywhere, so I'd rather he be protected, but WTF? fetal cells of aborted babies, #@$%^&* formaldehyde??? They don't even put that in hair dye anymore! On top of that your doctor will tell you not to dye your hair while pregnant for that very reason, so why the He-double hockey sticks is it in the something we are INJECTING into our babies!!!????
Yep. Do more research.

-Angela
post #32 of 71
1. Family history of reactions. My brother had severe reactions to vaccines which ultimately led up to my mom researching and deciding to stop vaxing.

2. I think most of the diseases that are vaccinated against are, generally speaking, not a huge threat. I'm more worried about the reactions to the vaccines than the possibility of contracting measles, mumps, etc.

3. Any way we can boost our immune systems without the use of an injection is preferable, IMO. There are lots of other ways to help our children build healthy immune systems so that if they do contract a vaccine-preventable disease, it's a mild case.

4. I'm worried about the long-term side effects of vaccines that haven't been studied thoroughly enough to convince me that there's nothing to worry about. I do think there could be a link between vaccines & autism, type 1 diabetes, SIDs, etc.

5. They're not always effective.

Those are my main reasons.
post #33 of 71
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
Yep. Do more research.

-Angela
Could someone please give me some reliable resources. PM me if needed!
post #34 of 71
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Originally Posted by akilamonique View Post
Could someone please give me some reliable resources. PM me if needed!
Start with the stickies here. Then look through the threads. There are TONS of links to great info here.

Start your own thread and you'll get tons of stuff.

-Angela
post #35 of 71
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
Start with the stickies here. Then look through the threads. There are TONS of links to great info here.

Start your own thread and you'll get tons of stuff.

-Angela
Right now I am on the CDC website reading the ingredients and looking up every single thing!
post #36 of 71
Just to add to the many reasons already mentioned, the AAP is heavily funded by the big pharmaceutical companies. Hmmmm.
post #37 of 71
Subbing here. I've not made any decisions yet except for declining the Hep B. My LO is 7 weeks and I'm going through Dr. Sear's Vaccine book to start with our decision making.

My in laws (who I love) feel quite strongly about vaccinating but they are very intelligent so whatever decision we make, I want to be able to clearly and concisely state our reasons. They'll respect us regardless but I do want them to understand we don't make these decisions lightly or based on pure rhetoric from either side.

I was somewhat ambushed at Easter by my Aunt-in-law, she has a PhD in BioChemistry. When I talked to her about my concerns about aluminum and the lack of need to immunize against Hep B, she actually ended up agreeing. I also pointed her to some online resources about vaccines so she could take a look.

Hopefully, everyone makes an educated decision, no matter what they come up with as best for their family. There is a lot to it, but there is a lot riding on it.
post #38 of 71
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Originally Posted by akilamonique View Post
WTF????!!! We are in the military, and I was afraid that we could be stationed anywhere, so I'd rather he be protected, but WTF? fetal cells of aborted babies, #@$%^&* formaldehyde??? They don't even put that in hair dye anymore! On top of that your doctor will tell you not to dye your hair while pregnant for that very reason, so why the He-double hockey sticks is it in the something we are INJECTING into our babies!!!????
To be fair, it's not the same formaldehyde that is used in enbalming or in making chemical products....it's STILL not something to be injected into our systems though!
post #39 of 71
For me it started out as a feeling. A feeling I had had with all my other babies but for some reason I didn't have the guts to listen to the feeling until my 5th child. At first it was a fear of autism but now it is about overall health. When you learn about the immune system and how it works and how immunizations mess with God's natural process of kids building immunity it just makes sense for our family to not vax going forward. One thing that helped me was researching the diseases that our kids are vaxed for and you will find that they are not as scary as the doctors want us to think, they are actually not scary at all.
It is a journey you have to take to find out for yourself, MDC will be a great resource for you.
post #40 of 71
Something about vaccines just pinged my intuition. I don't want to do them, and feel more then comfortable the more I learn about the immune system and ways to support it.
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