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Possibly losing our UC :/

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Ever since our first child was ripped from uterus unnecessarily, I dreamed of a home birth with our next baby. I did hours and hours and hours of research. I had every confidence all would be well. ..

When we became pregnant with our second child, I found a care provider to take me on that agreed to VBAC at home. Eventually I started learning more about UC in the process. As the months started to go on, the more I started to see our care provider regarded our birth. How managed it was going to be, how it was her way or no way. While legally, I understand the need to protect ones own rear, it really stinks to be on the other end.

I was also astounded with the number of people that were going to be in attendance at our home birth. And how hands off she was not going to be . It was unfair of me that I thought she might be like paramidwife (okay, I really really hoped), and when that became apparent our relationship ended. UC/UP began.

I had been doing much of my own anyway, so it wasn't a big deal. Everything was going really well.

Until I sprang a leak in my water. :/ I tried to tell myself that it wasn't my water. It was just the baby kicking my bladder. After running around for several days trying to find litmus paper (boy, if you could have heard the attitude I got from Walgreens..) I found it, and tested. First time, it came out greenish. This morning. Dark blue. Positive.

I am not leaking now. It only seems to happen when I pee/push.

I am plus 4 days now. I am not comfortable with how long its been continuing to go. I drank some castor oil and OJ this morning to try to get things moving along. If they do not mo ve along by this afternoon, I am headed to the hospital.

It's the last thing we want. But really, what more are my options?

We are looking at the possibility of losing our UC and our home birth. We are looking at the possibility of me getting cut open again, and having to leave my 21 month old for four days. I am really really scared.
post #2 of 42


You have to do what you feel comfortable with. If you really feel it's time to go to the hospital, then of course that's what you should do.

As long as you haven't had anything in the vagina since your water broke there's really no pressing reason to get to the hospital. You could drink lots of water and take vitamin C just in case (to ward off infection). I know of a few women locally who have gone a week or even a bit longer with broken waters and delivered at home with no problems. And I know there have been at least a few on this board who have gone for a while with broken waters.

Good luck!
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First off, you have my full and complete support with whatever you choose to do. UC really is about taking responsibility and tuning inward for what's best for your baby & you. I trust you know best.

Secondly, have you visited the PROM thread? My story is posted on there. I had much more of a gushing rupture than what you're describing. Only I was 31 weeks. I made a really difficult decision to stay home and I am SO glad that I did. I followed the protocol I listed there & since I was so early, my bags resealed & refilled. (We even stopped preterm labor)

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It's the last thing we want. But really, what more are my options?
I guess, I don't quite understand why you are worried about giving your baby & you the birth you want to at home. Are you running a temperature? Was the water bloody or heavily stained with meconium? Was there so much water expelled that now the baby isn't moving much? What happens when you eat or drink something sugary (natural or not) and then lay down quietly to count 10 kicks/punches... do you reach 10 in less than 2 hours?

Some hospitals do let ruptured membranes go longer than others, but usually not the ones that happen at term. If you go in I'd say for sure you'll be induced if they are VBAC friendly. If they aren't, then yes, you'll be going in to birth your baby by cesarean.

Do you have a doula you could hire today if you continue to plan to go into the hospital? Having a doula with you to advocate may be worth their weight in gold.

My PROM experience:
1st - Water broke, son born 18 hours later.
2nd - Water broke, daughter born 3 days later.
3rd - Water broke, daughter born 10.5 weeks later.
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You have to do what you feel comfortable with. If you really feel it's time to go to the hospital, then of course that's what you should do.

As long as you haven't had anything in the vagina since your water broke there's really no pressing reason to get to the hospital. You could drink lots of water and take vitamin C just in case (to ward off infection). I know of a few women locally who have gone a week or even a bit longer with broken waters and delivered at home with no problems. And I know there have been at least a few on this board who have gone for a while with broken waters.

Good luck!

Dh and I got, eh, friendly after the first bit of a leak. I had assumed one, that labor was close. Two, it would be slightly better than going in to have it checked since VE's do not carry the possibility of putting one into labor generally. I didn't think it would have taken this long.. since I had a full SROM with my first, and labor was immedate.:/

I've been taking vitamin C, and upping my water.

The only issue that I am having is that the baby seems to be moving less. Now, that could very well be because I am over 40 weeks (where is the room!?). But thats a reason I am nervous.
post #5 of 42
Sending you start labor vibes..... I will be thinking of you, hoping things are ok
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I guess, I don't quite understand why you are worried about giving your baby & you the birth you want to at home. Are you running a temperature? Was the water bloody or heavily stained with meconium? Was there so much water expelled that now the baby isn't moving much? What happens when you eat or drink something sugary (natural or not) and then lay down quietly to count 10 kicks/punches... do you reach 10 in less than 2 hours?

I am running a slight temp this morning. But that could be because I was buried under blankets when my husband turned on the heat. The main reason I am worried is the baby does not seem to be moving much as normal. Now again, that could be because of being term. Keep in mind that the first leak I had started on 3/31.

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Some hospitals do let ruptured membranes go longer than others, but usually not the ones that happen at term. If you go in I'd say for sure you'll be induced if they are VBAC friendly. If they aren't, then yes, you'll be going in to birth your baby by cesarean.
Believe me , I know. I would say that I would fudge the numbers on the water leak. But I am under no delusions if they find it, they will just pump me full of antibiotics and let me go home. I am under no delusions that they will give me a NST to see how the baby is, then let me go on my way.

I realize the weight of each of these decisions, and it is a heavy one. Thats why I am so scared.

As far as the doulas go. There are no doulas out here that I can call at a moments notice to get to attend our birth. :/
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The only issue that I am having is that the baby seems to be moving less. Now, that could very well be because I am over 40 weeks (where is the room!?). But thats a reason I am nervous.
Here's a PDF you may find useful. It's a pretty clear explanation of how to do kick counts & includes a place to record the info...
http://health.utah.gov/rhp/pregnancy...kickcounts.PDF
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I am running a slight temp this morning. But that could be because I was buried under blankets when my husband turned on the heat.
Yeah, that's something that would be a red flag for me. We do tend to be elevated slightly after waking up, but if it continues to be above 98.6, then yeah, that would concern me, too.

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The main reason I am worried is the baby does not seem to be moving much as normal. Now again, that could be because of being term. Keep in mind that the first leak I had started on 3/31.
I was reading/posting (kick count PDF) while you replied to me. So, it's been a week then since you first noticed a leak. That's within my comfort level (as long as your temp goes back down in the next hour or two), but it doesn't mean it's within yours!

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As far as the doulas go. There are no doulas out here that I can call at a moments notice to get to attend our birth. :/
Bah! That bites! Would you want to put a call out in the Birth Professionals forum asking for a doula who might? You never know if someone will know someone.

Let's just hope your temp goes back down & you have the space & energy to get labor started before showing up at the hospital. I wish I had some kind of labor inducing power for you! I can think of a page that has a lot of natural induction information though... http://www.gentlebirth.org/archives/natinduc.html
post #9 of 42
How are you feeling now mama?
Lots of good thoughts coming from BC to you
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how are you feeling? how's your temperature? thinking of you. hope your labour starts soon and that you'd have a peaceful birth...
post #11 of 42
After several days with your water broken, having had sex, with a fever and lessened movement I would be very concerned about infection and would probably head to the hospital. There is a chance you could get an IV of abx and a NST and then sign yourself out AMA and go home.
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Yeah, that's something that would be a red flag for me. We do tend to be elevated slightly after waking up, but if it continues to be above 98.6, then yeah, that would concern me, too.



I was reading/posting (kick count PDF) while you replied to me. So, it's been a week then since you first noticed a leak. That's within my comfort level (as long as your temp goes back down in the next hour or two), but it doesn't mean it's within yours!
) You know, it's not so much the length of time.. (though it bothers me), it's the lack of movement/not as much movement. Baby has moved some, not as much. I hope it picks up so we don't have to go!


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Bah! That bites! Would you want to put a call out in the Birth Professionals forum asking for a doula who might? You never know if someone will know someone.

Let's just hope your temp goes back down & you have the space & energy to get labor started before showing up at the hospital. I wish I had some kind of labor inducing power for you! I can think of a page that has a lot of natural induction information though... http://www.gentlebirth.org/archives/natinduc.html

Aw, thank you! I will consider that..

My temp went back down, so that's good. Just waiting on the baby to pick up movement and maybe for these contractions to get going more.
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How are you feeling now mama?
Lots of good thoughts coming from BC to you
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how are you feeling? how's your temperature? thinking of you. hope your labour starts soon and that you'd have a peaceful birth...



Took the oil at 5:30amish. Had contractions in my sleep enough that my belly was sore. They petered out as they tend to do, even with my system cleaning itself out. Took another dose at 9:00am. Did some cleaning, took a hot shower.

Having contractions still, but nothing consistent and nothing painful. I am really pushing water.

We're getting ready to go out right now to walk a bit, get some last minute things done and see where we end up from there.

Thank you so much for the good thoughts.
post #14 of 42


May labor come on good & strong!

Sending you peace & lots of love!

If you need to pull inward, don't feel like you have to check in with us. We're here continuously giving you support.
post #15 of 42
Sending you positive thoughts mama.
post #16 of 42
Just thinking of you and wondering how you are doing!!!
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Thinking of you.........
post #18 of 42
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Update

Okay..

I am back from the hospital, and I am still pregnant!

Went in because of my temp, and fluid. When I got there, both were fine. I showed no signs of a leak, and my temp was perfect. They ordered an ultrasound which was fine.. found out baby is head down and doing okay.

Thought that meant I could just go home... ha! They were waiting on labs, and while waiting on labs baby was just re-active. Heartbeat didnt move much in variation. this meant they wanted a BPP. Fine.

I was flat on my back for 30 minutes. Around the last 5 minutes I was offered juice to see if we could get the baby move more. Well, it worked, but only so well because they only gave a score of 6 to 10. Apparently because the baby as not practice breathing. The resident who was over looking most of the work was on the phone most of the time, and had the attitude if she didn't see it, it didn't happen.

Got back, got on the strip. heart beat was showing variation. My blood pressure was way down to normal . It was 137/80 when I came in. When I was relaxed it was 120/70.

TOLD me they were going to induce me. The guy seemed surprised when I told him no. Had his supervisor come in to scare me into induction. She said i was hyper tensive, clearly I *wasnt*. Then she gave my dates as a reason. Hello, I am 40 weeks! Then after that, she gave the failing the BPP, and discounted the strip afterwards showing improvement.

She wanted to cut me open, and didn't see why I wouldn't consent to induction. My bishop score was low, it's not medically needed.. mmmh. Tough call there.
Got a bunch of scare tatics on how if anything happened, it would be all my fault.

Even though I pointed out the risk for induction was GREAT, and they had not bothered to throw any of that at me. The response was.. "well, there is risk to everything.. and we can't promise.. but there is more of a risk in your case.."

I ended up signing out AMA, which they hated. I had to sign a paper saying they weren't responsible if something happened to the baby, or I turned Pre-clamptic. (There was no protein in my urine, no swelling, no head ache, no sudden weight gain, BP came down... come on!)

So here I am. Thank you so much for you well wishes.. Please keep us in your thoughts until this little person is here!
post #19 of 42
I'm glad all is ok!

Sending labor :
post #20 of 42
You are awesome spookymama! Good for you! Subbing for updates