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post #1 of 9
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I've been researching in the archives, and apparently there are LOTS of other moms dealing with LO's that withhold poop. However, there doesn't seem to be any good answers that don't involve more fiber or laxatives. So I thought I'd try to get a TF perspective.

DS is 3.5. He has never been an every day pooper, but until recently, they didn't seem painful or hard when they came out (except once that I remember a few years ago). It seemed more that he just didn't pay attention to the urge to go, and didn't like being changed. Now it seems that he's afraid to poop because he had a few that hurt. He has eaten a TF diet since birth, and doesn't seem to have any food allergies. He eats plenty of fiber so that's not the issue. He also drinks... ALOT. And he drinks mostly kombucha and natural fermented drinks. I've tried adding prune purees to his smoothies, and that seemed to help a little, but he's not interested in drinking them right now. He's a VERY picky eater, and the only supplements I can get into him have to be hidden in something he eats. I tried suppositories but he is terrified of them, and I tried Milk of Magnesia once, and I literally had to hold him down which made both of us cry.

I feel that this is a serious medical issue, since he's stretching his colon out, so I want to address it, but I also feel that when I focus on it he picks up on it and it becomes a control issue... which in my son will make him want to poop even less. I think I'm going to tell him that Mommy cannot control his poop, and that it is completely up to him whether to poop or not... and then never mention poop (meanwhile sneaking dissolvable magnesium into his kombucha) and putting epsom salts into his bath. I kills me knowing he's going to suffer when he finally goes, but if I force suppositories on him, I think it will damage his trust in me. And at this point, he goes every 3-5 days, and has only had a few that were a real struggle. I know many have it much worse. I'm afraid making pooping an issue will actually push him over into serious encopresis.

So. Any TF ideas? Anyone know of kid-friendly magnesium that can be hidden? Should I try chiropractic adjustments?

I would love to do the scd with him, or try elimation diets, but don't have cooperation from dh, which would be essential. I suspect that this problem is not really caused by the food he eats, but perhaps is a structural/functional problem aggravated by personality. I feel so powerless to help my baby!
post #2 of 9
I am in the same boat with my 21 mo old, and have been for about 8 mo. I don't have any answers, as we've struggled through and had good times and bad times. We use Baby Calm or Natural Calm as a magnesium supplement. I don't know if it can be hidden, but it tastes fine. Worked well for a long time, but now she refuses it. Kiwis helped tremendously, when she would eat 1 a day. Baked goods with flax like muffins and pancakes helps lots. I'm at a place where I need to let go of the control. She potty taught herself for pee at home. I am hoping this control and independence will start to help her feel in control of her bms, too. The hard part is that she holds it for so long that she gets impacted and we have to do major cleanout from both ends, which just continues the cycle. She gets to the no eating, no sleeping, bloated belly stage (more than once, 9-12 days!) and still will just NOT poop!
So I don't think I'm any help, but I can totally commiserate.
post #3 of 9
You say he's getting "a lot" of fiber, what sources? How much fat is he eating? You may need to decrease the fiber and increase the fat. The fat lubricates everything, making the whole process easier, whereas fiber can "clog" things up for some people, especially artificial or refined fiber.
post #4 of 9
Two things that work for that are probiotics and increase fat intake in the diet. High fiber doesn't always help if there isn't enough water in the diet too, so I tell people to up water intake as well.

I'm sorry he's going through this. I had a friend whose daughter had an issue and after putting her on kid probiotics and giving her extra butter or CO on *everything* things seemed to move (ahem) smoothly.
post #5 of 9
A chiropractic adjustment can certianly help- if the problem is caused or aggrivated by his spine being "out of whack" and nerve energy not fully going to his GI system. If the problem isn't caused or aggrivated by the spine, then a chiro adjustment won't help his elimination (though it may help him in other areas of health and can't hurt anything.)

I'd try to get more fat into his diet wherever possible.
post #6 of 9
I second the chiropractic idea... it certainly won't hurt (unless you get a horrible chiro) and it will help SOMEthing. It might not be a miracle cure for his bowels... but then again... it might be.

Hugs! I'll remember your son the next time I'm fed up with the fourth super-messy poopy diaper in a day, and smile instead of sighing.
post #7 of 9
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Originally Posted by cristeen View Post
You say he's getting "a lot" of fiber, what sources? How much fat is he eating? You may need to decrease the fiber and increase the fat. The fat lubricates everything, making the whole process easier, whereas fiber can "clog" things up for some people, especially artificial or refined fiber.
His fiber comes from fruit and Ezekiel bread and sourdough rye bread and quinoa and wild rice. He eats more grains that I would like, but he eats SO few foods, and at least grains can be a vehicle for raw butter, broth, and meat (hidden in a quesadilla with an Ezekiel tortilla) which he won't touch otherwise. He drinks raw jersey milk, drinks smoothies with raw eggs and kefir and CLO and BO. (he won't eat eggs scrambled anymore). With his pickiness, I really don't know how I would lessen the fiber and grains and up the fat. While I don't consider his diet optimal, I do think it's very healthy.

I also have been giving him probiotics, and have started sneaking AtoB Calm into his kombucha. I eliminated bananas and coconut flour (too much fiber, and he just starting eating it before this problem began). I'm also trying to get my husband to stop giving him "treats" that have white flour in them.

So it seems the problem is either a milk allergy (he has no other signs of allergies), a gut imbalance inherited from me (I have a history of health problems), or something chiropractic can fix.

Thanks for the suggestions and commiseration!
post #8 of 9
Does he eat butter on his breads/grains? What about in his other foods? Can you get him to eat anymore butter or CO in different foods? Can you add more cream to his milk? What about homemade ice cream? My kids love this; I let them eat it everyday, since I make it with very little sugar. What about a custard, cheesecake, or eggnog-type drink? All of those are high-fat foods.

I found that my DS1 improved a lot after using a homeopathic remedy made just for him. We also gave him some other supplements tailored to his needs. Chiropractic seems to help keep all of us regular. Otherwise, all of us seem to have some sort of digestive issues.

Hopefully, something will help!
post #9 of 9
dried prunes seem to always work like a charm - as does prune juice

also, putting just the very tip of a baby thermometer in and wiggling it around can help stimulate the bowels to move
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