Yep, two different situations being talked about on this thread.
One is about neutered (applies to male and female, but usually used to describe male castration cause people don't like the word castrate), healthy, vaccinated pets occasionally venturing unsupervised outdoors, and not harassing neighbors. Here the concern is the safety of those pets.
The other is about unhealthy, intact, possible infectious and contagious, animals, possibly someone's uncared for pet or a feral offspring of someone's unneutered pet creating filth and destruction. Here there is concern for the health, safety and comfort of the human and animal residents of that neighborhood.
Had to summarize.
Originally Posted by she
I will also be getting a couple of barn cats when I start having to store animal feed in the barn. I will be getting semi-feral rescues for the job - they need an appropriate home, too, and their lack of social graces make them poor pets in the conventional sense.
This is a wonderful idea. When I was employed by a pet store/pet rescue/pet vet clinic/pet training/community educating place in Madison, WI, one thing the owner did was only sell animals who were homeless.
She was called when strays were spotted, when someone's unneutered pet became unexpectedly pregnant and they needed to find homes for the puppies/kittens, and such situations like that.
Every single animal brought to her was neutered, vaccinated, dewormed, disease tested (FELUK/FIV for cats, stool testing for all of them in 3 week cycles), and the dogs included free training/socialization classes.
The owners of the moms/dads producing the unwanted litters were encouraged to allow her vets to neuter them.
We were quite successful in encouraging those pet owners to neuter their pets to avoid more unwanted litters.
There are a lot of farms around Madison and we also received loads of feral cats.
One time in particular I remember we had 80 cats in our intake room, in cages, all with ringworm and upper respiratory diseases that seemed resistant to medical treatment.
It took me 8 hours to properly clean their cages, litter boxes, food and water bowls, medicate and treat their ringworm and upper respiratory infections (which sometimes left me scratched up at the least) and give those who liked humans some affection.
For most of those feral cats, the only choice in the local shelter for a non-pet was euthanasia.
My boss didn't like that idea and neither did her employees (including me).
So we came up with the idea of post-sterilization and after they were healthy, finding them farm homes (the land owners were willing participants).
They could remain feral, have some kind of life, be healthy, not produce more unwanted kitties and be relatively safe in rural Wisconsin farmland.
Originally Posted by frog
I agree with that--it's raccoons. Nasty little cuties.
Completely irrelevant to the topic, but I had to say there are no raccoons in Alaska, so we blame the moose and bears. lol
Originally Posted by North_Of_60
It's not funny that both my daughter and I have had ringworm because of strange cats on our property. It's not funny that my daughter has gotten cat poop stuck in her sandals. It's not funny that I have to wait for my husband to get home so we can go outside and play (have you ever tried to clean poo and cat spray with a 2 year old "helping" you?). My respect for a person who thinks that is funny is pretty close to nil.
DING DING DING!! So if you have a cat that is not trained to stay in YOUR yard, don't let it out. Simple. Real simple.
This will be the 6th cat that I've trapped (and possibly sterilized, if he's not chipped) since November. If I sterilize this cat, my neighborhood will qualify with the county to be registered as a feral cat colony. Do a search of my posts, I just dealt with a litter of kittens that showed up here, and this cat may in fact be the father. I'm now up to 2 toms, one mature (in heat at the time she was caught) female, and 3 kittens. No cat leaves this property without being spayed and neutered, and tested for FIP/FLV/FIV. Period. I pay for this out pocket, because a.) feral cats are an epidemic, and one breeding pair can create thousands upon thousands of cats in just a matter of years. Since they are hanging out near MY property, I am going to do something about. Some neighbors have even chipped in to the cost of it. And b.) I have two cats who I care dearly about, one of which was one of the kittens, and if by chance they got out, I don't want them to be attacked by a feral cat this is possibly positive for a deadly disease. I feel morally and ethically responsible to preserve my neighborhood and deal with this problem, a problem that an irresponsible pet owner/cruddy neighbor caused. More so, I want to preserve MY PROPERTY, and keep it safe and clean so my family can enjoy it. Banging some pots is not going to deter a tom cat. Been there, tried that.
I say YAY for you, North, for doing your part to help reduce this problem in your neighborhood.
It is a nasty job and you are taking an active role in PERMANENTLY ending this problem, instead of a quick fix.
I understand how frustrating it is to have to take care of a situation caused by irresponsible pet owners (and I'm not saying anyone on this thread is one of those people who allow unhealthy, unneutered cats to cause problems, I'm referring to the situation North is forced to deal with).
Clearly the cats that terrorize your neighborhood are not the cats owned by posters to this thread.
That is quite clear that those are two completely separate issues.
However, even clean, healthy, neutered, trained, tame and affectionate cats can be pests when their owners allow them to roam unsupervised