Originally Posted by amitymama
Exactly. Ya'll wouldn't even be surprised at how controversial the story appears to be and how badly it's written if you knew the source. The Daily Mail
is barely one level above a tabloid here, IMO. It's all hysteria and "zomg!! your kids could DIE, you could DIE, Immigrants are scum", etc... so take this story with a grain of salt. I would bet my grandmother that Odent never said 'all men', that it is just being spun that way to get a bunch of people het up and think them homebirthin' natural birth folks are freaks.
Well - that's good to know!
Yes Nashvillemidwife - I know exactly who Michael Odent is. That's why I kept making sure the article was about him.
I feel better knowing about the paper. I would like to hear from a reputable source about this subject and Michael Odent's thought on it. If he truly believes that men shouldn't be allowed near a laboring woman, then he hasn't attended a birth like my last two or my friend's. My friend didn't even have her husband with her, it was her brother, but she felt like she didn't want to do it without him.
I think that another critical part that is missing is the environment of the birth. I've birthed four children - two in the hospital - two at home. Honestly, when I was pg with child #3, I remember saying that I didn't really care if dh was there or not. He wasn't really helpful during my first two births - actually in the first one, I felt very abandoned and let down by him. The circumstances of that birth were a big factor in us almost getting divorced. I was pretty apathetic about him being at #3.
Then, we had a homebirth with #3, and I couldn't believe it - he was amazing. It was like he was a mind reader. He did what I needed him to do, and he was exactly what I needed. It really was an amazing difference. I was blown away. Just his presence was comforting to me. He was even more important during birth #4 because it was a very challenging birth. I would not want to birth without him. Even if we had to have a hospital birth, I would want him with me. I believe that NOW he gets birth, and he would be much better in a hospital.
I think (and yes, this is a generalization and not true for every man) that the hospital setting takes away the naturalness of birth and really makes the partners feel like they don't have a place in the birth. How integral are you really when you're saying, "Okay now, breathe, push - 1...2...3...4...? I think that many hospitals push the partner out of the picture, too. There are doctors, nurses, IV units, bed rails, small uncomfortable beds, rules and regulations, etc. Anyway, that's my