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post #21 of 53
Yes. My neighborhood is mostly Hispanic, and I'm white and my daughter is biracial white/asian.

I grew up in Miami and went to predominantly (meaning 90%+) Hispanic schools, so I feel very comfortable in my neighborhood. I love that my dd is learning Spanish from her friends at school (and me) just like I did as a kid.
post #22 of 53
I usually am. My neighborhood has a very balanced white/black mix and straight/queer. But I am the only Latina I know here. It's been that way my entire life; I have never lived in a Latin neighborhood.

Most people don't realize that I am a Latina and it can get me really steamed - plenty of people make racist remarks around me about spics and cans and then act all dumbfounded. Like "Well, I don't mean YOU."

Then who the hell did you mean?
post #23 of 53
We are the only white couple on our cul de sac of about 15 houses. There are people of all ethnicities. Our immediate left neighbors are Arab, and our immediate right neighbors are Latino & Peruvian. Then we have Koreans, Japanese, Middle European (I forget which country), Hispanic, Indian, Filipino, and black.
post #24 of 53
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Originally Posted by mean_jeannie View Post
Most people don't realize that I am a Latina and it can get me really steamed - plenty of people make racist remarks around me about spics and cans and then act all dumbfounded. Like "Well, I don't mean YOU."
"cans?" Canadians?
post #25 of 53
We are the only white family for blocks around. No one speaks English either.
post #26 of 53
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We are the only white family for blocks around. No one speaks English either.
Really? Cool.

Our neighborhood is becoming more diverse, but dh and our kids are still in the minority. Although to hear one of my neighbors talk about it, you'd think we were being crushed by some invasion of undesirables. Of course this is also the couple that would put their house on the market immediately if an Iraqi or Muslim family moved next door to them.
post #27 of 53
I just moved to Savannah, GA, so yeah, I'm in the minority (I'm white). I think Savannah is something like 70% black, so it's a big difference coming from west Michigan where whites are the majority.

Honestly, I do see a lot of racism, especially when I'm being served by a black person in a business. Wal-Mart is probably the worst, which is why I don't go there unless I have to. But there is a lot of just general unfriendliness towards white people here that I didn't expect. And it must just be a Savannah thing, because when I go out to Statesboro (much more rural area), people are usually a lot nicer.

Oh well...2 more years and then hubby gets his degree and we are outta here!
post #28 of 53
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Really? Cool.

Our neighborhood is becoming more diverse, but dh and our kids are still in the minority. Although to hear one of my neighbors talk about it, you'd think we were being crushed by some invasion of undesirables. Of course this is also the couple that would put their house on the market immediately if an Iraqi or Muslim family moved next door to them.
Well your neighbor would freak out in my cul de sac! My next door neighbors are Iraqi and I them. The mom gives us homemade bread and veggies from her garden. My neighbors across the street are originally from Romania. We have a Mormon family, a retired family, a white/chinese family, a filipino family and a Sikh family.

I love my cul de sac! (I'm white and DH is Japanese)
post #29 of 53
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Well your neighbor would freak out in my cul de sac! My next door neighbors are Iraqi and I them.

Apparently as long as there's a buffer, it's okay. But, yeah, I guess they couldn't live in your house. Too close.
post #30 of 53
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I just moved to Savannah, GA, so yeah, I'm in the minority (I'm white). I think Savannah is something like 70% black, so it's a big difference coming from west Michigan where whites are the majority.

Honestly, I do see a lot of racism, especially when I'm being served by a black person in a business. Wal-Mart is probably the worst, which is why I don't go there unless I have to. But there is a lot of just general unfriendliness towards white people here that I didn't expect. And it must just be a Savannah thing, because when I go out to Statesboro (much more rural area), people are usually a lot nicer.

Oh well...2 more years and then hubby gets his degree and we are outta here!
Curious?? Did you see racism in West Michigan?
post #31 of 53
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Originally Posted by snowbunny81 View Post
I just moved to Savannah, GA, so yeah, I'm in the minority (I'm white). I think Savannah is something like 70% black, so it's a big difference coming from west Michigan where whites are the majority.

Honestly, I do see a lot of racism, especially when I'm being served by a black person in a business. Wal-Mart is probably the worst, which is why I don't go there unless I have to. But there is a lot of just general unfriendliness towards white people here that I didn't expect. And it must just be a Savannah thing, because when I go out to Statesboro (much more rural area), people are usually a lot nicer.

Oh well...2 more years and then hubby gets his degree and we are outta here!
So, is your dh Black or Latino or Asian, then?

Your perspective of Savannah is interesting. It's only around 57% black, but I guess if you're from an overwhelmingly white area it might feel differently. Dh and I have been warned about the city because of the attitude of whites there. I know that racism (against blacks) used to be aggressively horrific and I haven't heard that it's gotten any better.
post #32 of 53
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"cans?" Canadians?
As is Mexicans. Nice, huh? I have also heard this used for Africans.

Canadians. I will have to use that one on them the next time. They will be dumbfounded.

I live in FL and for all its perceived diversity it is very much still the "good-old-boys" state.
post #33 of 53
Purplegirl - Somewhat. I worked with a few (white) people who were pretty racist. Whether or not they let their feelings come across while dealing with minority customers, I don't know. Of course, if you feel something strongly enough, those feelings are often hard to mask. But race is definitely more of an issue down here. Then again, what I perceive as racism (because I can honestly think of no other explanation for it) might be something else entirely. All I know is that I've come across more rude attitudes in my one year in Savannah than my whole life up in Michigan.

Missy - My husband is white, from a little hick town about an hour outside Savannah.

I haven't really gotten to know a whole lot of white people, but I have run across a couple that could really prove Savannah to be a racist white town. Maybe that's where some of the hostility that I feel comes from. There is a lot more racial tension down here than I'm used to.

Are you planning to visit or move here?
post #34 of 53
I visited Savannah very briefly with my parents when I was in high school, but that was around 25 years ago. It's just some place that has occasionally come up in conversation. There's an art college there, and my daughter is probably eventually going into art. And, the Dean of the School of Education of Hampton University, where I went to school, left HU to become president of a HBCU there. He was always very accessible at Hampton, so I was keeping that in mind in case we ever did end up in that area.

I would guess that what you are seeing is a defensive reaction to the racism I've heard about.
post #35 of 53
My daughter and a baby down the street are the only minorities in our neighborhood. Everyone else is white.
post #36 of 53
Wow, this discussion made me google my old dean. He resigned in 2006 and is now at Clark Atlanta. And I found a picture and he's hardly aged at all. :
post #37 of 53
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Originally Posted by Missy View Post
I visited Savannah very briefly with my parents when I was in high school, but that was around 25 years ago. It's just some place that has occasionally come up in conversation. There's an art college there, and my daughter is probably eventually going into art. And, the Dean of the School of Education of Hampton University, where I went to school, left HU to become president of a HBCU there. He was always very accessible at Hampton, so I was keeping that in mind in case we ever did end up in that area.

I would guess that what you are seeing is a defensive reaction to the racism I've heard about.
Yeah, that's what I was kinda thinking too. It's probably a "I'll get you before you get me" type of thing--very sad.
post #38 of 53
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Originally Posted by snowbunny81 View Post
I just moved to Savannah, GA, so yeah, I'm in the minority (I'm white). I think Savannah is something like 70% black, so it's a big difference coming from west Michigan where whites are the majority.

Honestly, I do see a lot of racism, especially when I'm being served by a black person in a business. Wal-Mart is probably the worst, which is why I don't go there unless I have to. But there is a lot of just general unfriendliness towards white people here that I didn't expect. And it must just be a Savannah thing, because when I go out to Statesboro (much more rural area), people are usually a lot nicer.

Oh well...2 more years and then hubby gets his degree and we are outta here!
I think what you may be seeing is traces of the residue that rests in the south. Keep in mind, the South was a hotbed for slavery and there are still quite a few people who would love to see it reinstated. What you see -- not to excuse it at all -- is probably the residue of how those people of color feel about the climate of the South. It isn't necessarily that they live in that slavery-type racism everyday, it has been passed from generation to generation in terms of attitudes and feelings of prior generations to the present.

Is that clear? There has to be a better way of phrasing this. But it is like the conditioning we get. For instance, when I was leaving for college and going to the South, my grandparents were nervous for me. They figured I was too proud and didn't know how to humble myself in front of white folk. They were really worried, so we get that handed down from generation to generation is all I am saying...
post #39 of 53
Okay, all. This is a tricky one for me. I am considering a move. Out to the suburbs. I picked a fairly progressive one known for having a decent mix of folks. It is not wonderful, but it is fair.

I loved the home I saw there. I want somewhere that is safe and not to say that we are totally unsafe where we live, but I have become accustomed to gunshots fired in the evenings from the alley, for the past two nights it seems to start shortly after my dd and I come in from playing in the backyard. That is scary to me. I have become conditioned and used to it, but there is something wrong with this.

My block is nice and a good community, however, I cannot speak for the caliber of folk around the block and that really worries me to say the least.

It makes me kind of sad that I am considering giving up on my city... :
post #40 of 53
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Originally Posted by meowee View Post
Just curious-- are you in the racial minority in your neighborhood (regardless of what your race is)? I live in a mostly black and Hispanic neighborhood and I am white. My children (most of whom look white) go to a mostly black school.

I am used to it by now in that I no longer feel like an outsider, and actually I feel uncomfortable in mostly white neighborhoods by this point (the neighborhoods here are pretty segregated). I also know my family wouldn't be welcome in those white neighborhoods which I think adds to my discomfort.

I just find it interesting that I have encountered little or no racism against me, here. I'm pretty sure if it were the reverse (being one of the only black women in a white neighborhood), I most likely would have encountered some problems.

i am white, and used to live in a predominantly black neighborhood with my baby's father. unfortunately, i always did feel like an outsider, and did experience problems from people around me. People would either come up to me(at gas stations, etc) thinking i was there to buy drugs, or just gave me dirty looks in general. I know there are other black neighborhoods down here that are more accepting though; i usually don't have a problem in my SIL's neighborhood, for instance; no one gives me a second look. I'm still not quite sure why that particular neighborhood was like that-- maybe because it was a really small section of the city? whereas my SIL's neighborhood is a lot larger.

I will probably end up raising my daughter in an ethnic neighborhood, where her fathers side of the family lives-- there's a lot of cousins, etc that i would like for her to be close to-- my side of the family has no cousins her age, or anyone (besides my immediate family) who really takes an interest in any of the family but their own. It's strange, because i am extremely close to my immediate family (mom and sisters)-- family is a huge value for us. But outside of them, none of our extended family really ever talks to eachother-- even though we all live within 20 minutes of eachother. My uncles for instance have only even seen my 4mo old baby *twice* since she was born, and didn't even want to hold her.

my lease is up where i'm at in September, at which point i will probably move to the neighborhood where most of DD's father's side of the family lives-- at which point i will be the minority in the neighborhood again. But as i said before i think things will go much better this time, as i have experienced this neighborhood to be much more laid back than the one i previously lived in.

baby's father has also been the minority in a neighborhood we lived in before-- which also caused problems. I lived in a small condo building where there was an association-- every week someone was trying to get us kicked out. "i smell weed coming from under their door at night"-- we did not ever smoke pot in that apartment! EVER! "there's cigarette butts out in the parking lot"-- about 80% of the people there smoked cigarettes as well, so i dont know how we got singled out. "your trash can has a bad odor, bring your trash out only on the day before the truck comes". uhm, it's a trash can, and it's 90 degrees out here... it's supposed to smell bad.What, so i'm supposed to stack the bags of garbage inside my kitchen until the garbage truck comes each week? yeah right.

The first time he came by, after i had just moved in, I was at work so he left something with a neighbor to give to me-- when i spoke with her, she went on and on in shock abut some "hoodlum" who was looking for me, and not to worry: that her husband would call the cops the next time he came around. Much to her surprise, he ended up moving in the next week-- and she never made eye contact with me again. Believe me, if could have gotten out of that lease, I would have. :sigh:
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