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post #21 of 38
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Originally Posted by lovingmommyhood View Post
Even here on MDC we have the ability to think independently. We're not all one unit with the same thoughts and opinions.
I'm aware of that, thanks. I just meant that this isn't the kind of absolutely unbelievable, shocking thing that a more mainstream board might make it out to be because they never hear of things like this happening. Sorry if I offended anyone, I just felt a bit taken aback that the validity of the story was questioned. I write about birth abuse and birth rape (even though I have not experience it myself) and there is always someone questioning whether it was "really that bad" so I get a bit touchy when ppl say they are sceptical.
post #22 of 38
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I just wanted to point out though that if they did try to press charges, the doctor would have just as much of a right to press assault charges against them (for kicking him in the shin)... which would not exactly strengthen her case, yk?
Wouldn't it be considered self-defense? If someone was trying to hold my arm down to insert a needle into it against my will, damn skippy I would defend my bodily autonomy and ain't no one gonna try to make me feel like I shouldn't have. I do realise, however, that we live in a sick, twisted world in which it probably *is* possible that the doctor could file assault charges. :
post #23 of 38
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Wouldn't it be considered self-defense? If someone was trying to hold my arm down to insert a needle into it against my will, damn skippy I would defend my bodily autonomy and ain't no one gonna try to make me feel like I shouldn't have. I do realise, however, that we live in a sick, twisted world in which it probably *is* possible that the doctor could file assault charges. :
Yeah, I don't know for sure where that line is... I imagine it's probably a bit subjective. I bet he could though.
post #24 of 38
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Thank you. I have to say that I was a little surprised to be disbelieved on MDC of all places.
I am not disbelieving you. You know how stories can get confused after retelling.

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Sorry, this is pounding in my head... and it won't go away. What is extreme about it? That they threatened CPS? Said she was putting her babies life in danger? The nurse holding her arm? The doctor not giving any reasons?

What she described is assault. That doesn't seem extreme? It is hard to imagine something like this would happen but if it did people need to be aware of it.
post #25 of 38
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Originally Posted by Mama2Xander View Post
I just wanted to point out though that if they did try to press charges, the doctor would have just as much of a right to press assault charges against them (for kicking him in the shin)... which would not exactly strengthen her case, yk?
It was self defense by that point.
post #26 of 38
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I, for one, believe it. I was treated about the same... and guess what? Can't file charges because it is VERBAL and medical records often mysteriously change. The written word trumps the verbal decisions of the victim. I hope his shin hurts.
And I'm happy to hear she has a birthing center to run to.
I unfortunately believe it too. Once you step foot in a hospital, they own you! They can and will do anything they want to you and your baby.

She needs to press charges.

Her kicking the doc only helps prove her point that she had to fight to get away...this proves that they were holding her against her will.
post #27 of 38
The only unbelievable thing, to me, is that she kicked the doctor in the shin. Good for her! I think in that situation I might have froze, I think it's great she was able to act on her own behalf!
post #28 of 38
That is terrible. Both of my kids were born in a hospital, however, I am thankful that here the doctors are very anti- intervention unless it is really necessary. They won't induce you for example until you are 12 days overdue.

My mother had a horrible hospital birth experience when she had me though. Her first 2 kids were born at home, with a midwife in attendance, just gas and air. When she had me though, she was classed as an older mother - at 37, so had some pressure to go to hospital. She did as she was told. At 37 weeks she had a false alarm, much as in this story. She expected to be sent home when the pains stopped, but then a doctor arrived in boots and plastic gown and some sort of hook.....announced he was going to break her waters. She asked if that was really necessary - he said "Do you really want to be here all day?"
I have no idea why she let him near her - but before she knew it, she had had her waters broken, and hooked up to pitocin. She describes the birth as absolutely horrible in comparison to her two previous unmedicated homebirths
post #29 of 38
Don't know if this is helpful to this sort of situation, but when there was some hoopla here where kids at another school were being strip searched, my mom told me that if it happened at my school if I couldn't get away to curl myself up into a ball and repeat over and over "If you touch me it's assault, contact my parents, if you touch me it's assault, contact my parents..."

Anyway, so I wonder how "THIS IS ASSAULT, I'LL SUE!!" would go over as opposed to non-specifics like "no! don't!"
post #30 of 38
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Anyway, so I wonder how "THIS IS ASSAULT, I'LL SUE!!" would go over as opposed to non-specifics like "no! don't!"
Most likely not...I was screaming RAPE and they didn't stop. They just added a nurse to help pull my legs apart.
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for whatever it might be worth, having a video recording of every event in a hospital or with a doctor is helpful.
First of all, I'm really sorry you had to go through all of that stress.

Second, did you know that some hospitals don't allow video cameras? I'll give you three guesses why, and the first two don't count.
post #33 of 38
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First of all, I'm really sorry you had to go through all of that stress.

Second, did you know that some hospitals don't allow video cameras? I'll give you three guesses why, and the first two don't count.
Because they're worried that might make the birthing mother feel more observed and hinder her birth?? (Ah.. happy thoughts of a hospital that thinks that way...)
Because the EMF radiation from the cameras might contribute to breast cancer in the nursing staff?

Yeah, I don't think I'd trust a hospital to be competent if they aren't willing to back up their actions with documentation.
post #34 of 38
If she can't/doesn't sue she should at the very least file a complaint with the medical board for the nurse and the ob.
post #35 of 38
I thought I posted earlier but I guess I didn't. And now I can't remember what I said now.

So now I guess I just want to know if the OP has any updates.

This is a really sad situation.
post #36 of 38
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Wouldn't it be considered self-defense? If someone was trying to hold my arm down to insert a needle into it against my will, damn skippy I would defend my bodily autonomy and ain't no one gonna try to make me feel like I shouldn't have. I do realise, however, that we live in a sick, twisted world in which it probably *is* possible that the doctor could file assault charges. :
But would it really be considered self defense since you said that the person who kicked the Dr was her friend and not the one who was having an IV forced on her. I would guess that this technicality could cause some problems.
post #37 of 38
Crazy. That is a really good reason to stay as far away as I can.
post #38 of 38
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But would it really be considered self defense since you said that the person who kicked the Dr was her friend and not the one who was having an IV forced on her. I would guess that this technicality could cause some problems.
Sorry for the confusion. No, it was the same person who kicked the doctor as the one being held down for an IV. My sister was not there, this was her friend. I'm not even 100% sure she actually made contact with the doctor, she may have just lashed out and kicked at him when the nurse tried to hold her arm down. I don't know more details right now as this poor woman is holed up at a birthing centre until she goes into labor. Once she's had the baby and is settled back at home, I have asked my sister to encourage her to call or email me so I can find out more about what happened and encourage her to press charges or at least report these 'professionals'.

I'll let you know what I find out but it will probably be another week.
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