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...they don't believe in homeschooling becasue I am taking money from the public schools, who need all they money they can get? It's not enough that my kids are well educated? Gah.
 
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Okay maybe I am clueless how would you be taking money from the schools? Do you own property, if so then you pay money for those schools,or in some states even by purchasing your cars license plates.
My own Mom who taught PS for 36+ yrs gave me the nastiest look when I said we were hsing, and just pretends like it is not 'there'.
 
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I think that's the ammunition people use when they don't have anything more substantial to pull out of their bag of tricks.

For those not in CA, the schools have had a system (not sure if it's still the same) where the schools get paid by the state according to the number of attending students - and that money is realistically more than they spend on that one student, in that it pays for group facilities and staff of all kinds - so there is something to the notion that a child not enrolled is not bringing in money the school would otherwise get for them. But I still think that's a pretty feeble argument that's pulled out by people who know it's about all they can come up with. - Lillian
 
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It was my understanding at some point that the schools receive funding based on census, not enrollment, so still get money for the hs and priv sch kids in their district. If that is true you are helping the schools out by hs!
 
#10 ·
You are costing your local school money (based on schools get X number of dollars per student) but saving the Department of education money by not having to educate your child. So consider it all even


And who cares anyway? Who on earth sends their child to a school to give a school money? In that case, lets all find the worst school we can find and send our children there!
 
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Originally Posted by kathymuggle View Post
You are costing your local school money (based on schools get X number of dollars per student) but saving the Department of education money by not having to educate your child. So consider it all even


And who cares anyway? Who on earth sends there child to a school to give a school money? In that case, lets all find the worst school we can find and send our children there!

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#13 ·
Tell those UAVs that I pay taxes and have for years and don't even have kids yet, so they can quit their whining about whatever paltry sum the school system isn't getting from having your kids on the rolls. And if they really want to make a big deal out of it, I will figure out a way to make sure none of my tax money goes to the public schools because clearly the only money that "matters" is the money from the enrollment head counts.
 
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I still pay my taxes, and gladly would pay school taxes whether I had children, or children of school age, or not. I wish the public schools were better, but schools are a worthy place for tax dollars to be spent, or hospitals, or fire departments.
I realize the schools lose money because of per-student funding, but there is nothing I can do about that. There are still so few homeschoolers, really, that that argument (taking money from the public schools) seems rather silly. I think a far more powerful argument is that of abandoning the public schools by homeschooling or private schooling, because you are taking what would probably be a good student and good influence and good family involvement away. That, also, is something I can do nothing about when it's what's best for my child. But it's a far more reasonable point than that of money.
 
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Originally Posted by LizD View Post
I still pay my taxes, and gladly would pay school taxes whether I had children, or children of school age, or not. I wish the public schools were better, but schools are a worthy place for tax dollars to be spent, or hospitals, or fire departments.

oh, I agree entirely. But I'd be willing to work to take my tax money away if people whine too much about the per-student enrolled money. If they don't think my tax money matters enough for the schools, I'd much rather my money go to the local library, and around here the library doesn't get any tax money (by choice so as to maintain autonomy for things like internet censorship).
 
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Originally Posted by Sharlla View Post
Schools get funding based on how many students they have.
Ok.. so her taxes are going to a school elsewhere in the district then, if not the one nearest her
Either way the money is still there.

IMO you are saving the schools TIME even if they aren't getting your $... avg 30 students per class is way too much to have time for every student. So the absence of your child gives a teacher X amount of extra time to divvy up among the other 29
 
#18 ·
But if you figure that if the state is paying the school district maybe $7,000 or more per child, that money stretches beyond the needs of one child. So it makes a difference. However, it always seemed bizarre to me that anyone would be expected to sacrifice the needs of their children in order to contribute to a pot they don't even have any faith in under the best of conditions. And I've heard that argument a lot. I've even heard people say they're sending their children to public school rather than private because they want to support public education. It's one thing to sacrifice your own needs for something you believe in, but I find it pretty odd to expect anyone to sacrifice their children's needs. - Lillian
 
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SOmeone once told me that homeschooling would ruin schools because all the "parents who care" would not be there to help the kids whose parents didn't care. What the heck ever- So I should put my kids into school and run myself ragged being the PTA mom and the classroom helper because there are some other kids don't have parents that get involved. Why? I have six daughters, how about I just breed loving mammas, will that be enough of a service? If not then they can send me a kid from the PS, send me the budget they give that kid (over $6000 a yr here in WA) and I'll school all of mine plus that extra one for a helluva lot cheaper than the schools do. Heck- I'd even be friends with that kids ghetto mamma and help her recover from crack or whatever else is going on. Imagine that.
 
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Ok do I have this right? Everyone is putting money into a state "pot" that's slated for schools. It's distributed based on head count. So that money is still going to schools regardless and maybe is actually being distributed to a needier school than the homeschooler's local school. Is that how it works?

Whether concerning money or parental involvement, anyone who moves to an area for its "good schools" (and puts their kids in it) is no less guilty!
 
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Originally Posted by Needle in the Hay View Post
Ok do I have this right? Everyone is putting money into a state "pot" that's slated for schools. It's distributed based on head count. So that money is still going to schools regardless and maybe is actually being distributed to a needier school than the homeschooler's local school. Is that how it works?
My understanding is that money is only going to schools in relation to their enrollment. It used to be as strict as counting heads on a daily basis - it was doled out that meticulously - and I'm not sure if they're still doing it that way (according to daily attendance records) in CA. So the question would be how the money funnels in to whoever allots the money to the schools - I don't know if there's an ongoing pot of money just sitting there to be distributed, or whether the money is drawn from another agency in the state as needed. I honestly don't know, but I don't think needier schools get more money - for that matter, if they did, they wouldn't be needier. Gee, I never realized I knew so little about all this. But I know that the really rich districts tend to be those that have very active parents, fundraising, and of course, tend to have more community affluence to support the fundraising. - Lillian
 
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Originally Posted by Lillian J View Post

. I honestly don't know, but I don't think needier schools get more money - for that matter, if they did, they wouldn't be needier. Gee, I never realized I knew so little about all this. But I know that the really rich districts tend to be those that have very active parents, fundraising, and of course, tend to have more community affluence to support the fundraising. - Lillian
I know less about it! Just wanted to clarify that I didn't think the needier districts would get more money than other districts, just that maybe their local property taxes wouldn't be enough for the per-head amount they are supposed to get. But regardless I think this criticism of homeschooling parents is a crock.
 
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Originally Posted by Ruthla View Post
You're saving money for the local district because they don't need to provide your kids with any services, yet you still pay taxes.
exactly.


I should get back the money my kids aren't having to use since they aren't in public school. Even while IN school we were paying for them to go to private school.
We've never had a reason to even use public except one year and it didn't work out.
 
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Originally Posted by lisarussell View Post
SOmeone once told me that homeschooling would ruin schools because all the "parents who care" would not be there to help the kids whose parents didn't care. What the heck ever- So I should put my kids into school and run myself ragged being the PTA mom and the classroom helper because there are some other kids don't have parents that get involved. Why? I have six daughters, how about I just breed loving mammas, will that be enough of a service? If not then they can send me a kid from the PS, send me the budget they give that kid (over $6000 a yr here in WA) and I'll school all of mine plus that extra one for a helluva lot cheaper than the schools do. Heck- I'd even be friends with that kids ghetto mamma and help her recover from crack or whatever else is going on. Imagine that.


Like anyone should be responsible for the fact that another woman went out and got herself pregnant and then sends her kid off to school when they have a bad situation at home. Actually, the schools shouldn't even be responsible for that but that's a whoooole other subject.
But just because I put my child in "any" school doesn't mean I should feel like I need to volunteer in order to make it a better experience for someone "else's" child/ren.
 
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