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My letter to LOTA re: pumping discrimination  

post #1 of 23
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Did I handle this okay? I fially had the courage to sit down and write a letter today about an experience I had last week.

To whom it may concern:

In preparation for attending the Louisiana Occupational Therapy Association Spring Conference, held at East Jefferson Memorial Hospital on April 18, 2008, I phoned Linda A*, head of the association and organizer of the conference approximately one week prior to the conference, to ask for arrangement to be made for a place to pump my breastmilk needed for my infant, and a refrigerator to store it in. She called later that day to confirm that arrangements had been made.

I arrived to the conference at about 7:30am, thirty minutes prior to the start of the conference, introduced myself to Ms. Alwood, and asked her to direct me to the pumping location. She then introduced me to Christie B*, Vice President of LOTA, and informed me that Christie would be the one to assist me.

From the very beginning, Christie acted very imposed upon, and marched me across the hospital to a room to pump in. She walked ahead of me the entire time, barely speaking a word to me. I let her know I would need to give her my little cooler pack with the milk to be regreigerated, and the ice pack for the freezer, since I was driving from another town an hour and a half away, and the conference itself was 10 hours long. The ice pack is good for eight hours at best, and therefore would not last the 11.5 hours of conference + drive time. She rolled her eyes. I told her if she could show me or tell me where the refrigerator was, I would go myself and bring it there, and also continue to retrieve it/bring it back each time I needed to pump. She abruptly told me no, that she HAD to do it. So when I finished pumping, I returned the conference location to hand her my pack. She was visibly unhappy about taking it. At the lunch break at noon, I found her again and told her I needed to pump again and would need my pack. Again, she made it known through her body language and lack of words that she was not happy. She brought me the pack, I went to pump, and brought it back to her. Again, I offered to bring my cooler pack to the refrigerator, and again, she refused. I was so put off my her attitude that I found Linda A* and let her know that I did not think that Christie was happy about being in charge of the pumping accomodations. She looked away and said, verbatim, her wording exactly, "Well, it's just SO much trouble. We have another pumping mother here who is going to her car to pump. It's just SO much trouble." I was completely taken aback by her directly telling me how much trouble I was causing LOTA, and by the insinuation that I should go sit in my car to pump breastmilk. This was a disgusting comment on so many different levels: First of all, I have an electric pump, so that is impossible. This was obvious, though, since I specifically asked for a room with an electrical outlet. Second of all, I am slightly more modest than to pump in my car. I have a Honda Civic with two car seats in the back. I am not about to risk being humiliated by having a passer-by see my exposed breasts. That is absurd. And then there are the ethical issues with telling someone needing accomodations that they are causing "so much trouble".

I am a paying, financially supporting member of LOTA. The LOTA is centered around occupational therapy, a profession that is supposed to advocate for people needing special accomodations. On top of my membership dues, I paid $195 to attend this conference.

Obviously I will never renew my membership to LOTA. I cannot, in good conscience, financially support an orgainzation that engages in such disrepectful and discriminatory behavior. I am very sad that this is the mindset of your administration, and am trusting that I receive the sincere letter of deep apology that I deserve, along with assurance that this will never happen to anyone else in the future.

Sincerely,
Julie G*, MS, LOTR
post #2 of 23
loved your letter.

You are going to hopefully get someone in "SO much trouble."
post #3 of 23
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Thanks so much, freemom! I needed that laugh, too!
post #4 of 23
You are a nicer one than I, knowerofnada. That lady would have gotten a heavy dose of something awful. By the end of the day she would have been lapping after me like a dog trying to make up to his master. Oooh! It infuriates me the nerve that some people have. If I were you, I'd cc the letter to someone high up in the community just so that they can feel nervous about the letter. Tell them that you demand an apology otherwise you'll be sure to let people know that it is their adopted policy to make nursing mothers feel unsupported and ostracized. I loved your letter, it was classy. My letter wouldn't have been nearly as much.
post #5 of 23
Great letter Julie if that happened to me I don't think I would have been so polite in my letter - let us know if you get a response
post #6 of 23
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Thanks inspired & Sam

I got a response. It is maddening. : Am I allowed to post it?
post #7 of 23
allowed?? it's REQUIRED!!!!
post #8 of 23
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Ok. Here it is. From the AOTA education rep. Starts off great, and quickly becomes a trainwreck.

In accordance with MDC's copyright policy, I have removed the private email. Please feel free to repost a summary


Here is the response I wrote:

Dear Kelly,

Although I appreciate your attempt at communication, I am very disappointed at the contents. There is a blatant lack of admission of wrongdoing on LOTA's part, and instead, unacceptable excuses are given that are completely irrelevant to me. Furthermore, an apology from anyone other than the offending parties is not acceptable. Finally, the assurance that I requested that no other pumping mother would experience the kind of inappropriate treatment I was given was also omitted.

Therefore, I have decided to proceed with further action at this time.

Sincerely,
Julie G*, MS, LOTR
post #9 of 23
What further action will you take?
post #10 of 23
Yes, dying to know where else you can go with this!

You are totally paving the way for other pumping moms to be able to ask for simple accomodations without having to accept attitude. Having been there myself for months at work, thanks for sticking up for yourself.
post #11 of 23
: what the hell - you told them advance what you would need - that dose not excuse their behaviour and the way they treated you!



that's not saying sorry



They can't have been the only two pople working at the conference - they could have delegated it to another person to take care of.



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Originally Posted by knowerofnada View Post
Although I appreciate your attempt at communication, I am very disappointed at the contents. There is a blatant lack of admission of wrongdoing on LOTA's part, and instead, unacceptable excuses are given that are completely irrelevant to me. Furthermore, an apology from anyone other than the offending parties is not acceptable. Finally, the assurance that I requested that no other pumping mother would experience the kind of inappropriate treatment I was given was also omitted.

Therefore, I have decided to proceed with further action at this time.

Sincerely,
Julie G*, MS, LOTR
let us know if you get another response - I would be intresed to hear what is going to be your next course of action too
post #12 of 23
yeah, see that makes me even madder. If the fact that only two of their representatives markedly discriminated against you was relevant then there would be no need for companies to get sued for sexual harrassment since only one or two people may have offended. Or there is no need for anyone to sue a hospital since only one or two of their staff contributed to some gross negligence. Hello??!!!! And essentially, with the straw that broke the camel's back remark, she was actually justifying their behavior. Why would she offer them an excuse??

I loved your response letter btw. I hope you get what you're after. Maybe we should all write letters...?
post #13 of 23
ugh. I wonder if it would have been ok for these women to act the way they did if a person with a physical disability asked for additional accommodations, or a diabetic or vegetarian asked for a special meal or other such special circumstances.

As the planners and hosts of the event it is part of the job to deal with these sorts of situations. It is part of the job to make the guests of your event comfortable and taken care of, even if some of them require special services.

I am sorry you were treated this way, it really is unacceptable that nursing/pumping women are discriminated against for the smallest of things. And really if it was SO much trouble then they should have let you put your milk in the freezer. And while I agree that two people should not speak for the entire organization the response you got was backing up their stance on the matter. Just because she put in the whole "I pumped for 7 months so I know" thing doesn't mean it can be rationalized away.

This sort of thing really gets me angry
post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by PapayaMom View Post
ugh. I wonder if it would have been ok for these women to act the way they did if a person with a physical disability asked for additional accommodations, or a diabetic or vegetarian asked for a special meal or other such special circumstances.
This is a great point. It is acceptable to
treat some groups badly, and not others. Why lactating moms? Is it because they are women, and women are not supposed to make a fuss and ask for stuff?

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Just because she put in the whole "I pumped for 7 months so I know" thing doesn't mean it can be rationalized away
Perhaps she is one of those women who believe in NOT putting others out when nursing, and expects you to be the same. (Sexism, embraced by the oppressed sex.
post #15 of 23
yeah I see it akin to making racially charged or homophobic statements and then saying, "but it's ok, I have black/asian/gay friends"
post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by PapayaMom View Post
yeah I see it akin to making racially charged or homophobic statements and then saying, "but it's ok, I have black/asian/gay friends"
It's not anywhere near comparable.

What I would do would be to write back and state clearly what you want to happen in the future. For example:

1. You would like them to develop a clear policy in place for accommodating b/f or pumping women.

2. The task should be delegated to someone who a. knows how to manage the situation and b. wants to manage the situation.

3. You would like an apology for the upset you suffered as a consequence of the woman's attitude towards you and, more importantly, an acknowledgement that regardless of the reasons her attitude was unacceptable.

I know you're upset but try not include emotive language. It detracts from your case.
post #17 of 23
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It's not anywhere near comparable.
I think perhaps you misunderstood. I was saying the rationalization of it was similar not the offense itself.
post #18 of 23
Ladies, I am sorry, but I had to remove copies of a private email posted without permission. It breaks up the flow of the thread a bit, and I apologize, but as a publication, Mothering adhears to a copyright policy which you can read here. This includes not posting emails without the author's permission. Please feel free to PM me with any questions.
post #19 of 23
Thread Starter 
Thanks so much for the supportive responses!

As for "further action", I filed a complaint with FirstRight, and one of their reps tried to call me today when I was at work, and also emailed me. Hopefully they are willing to help educate this organization.

Also, I am probably going to make the national OT organization, AOTA (American Association for Occupational Therapists) aware of the issues surrounding the state organization.

I want things to be easier for women down here in LA. This state is not very progressive, and I'm a bit weary of it.
post #20 of 23
well done!
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