Originally Posted by ThomasL
I am glad you brought up the visions or experiences of Hell. Yes it is true there are some very distressing NDEs involving a hellish enviroment but in all these cases they had a very negative state of mind and the power to manifest feelings or thoughts is very powerful there. The difference in these cases versus church doctrine was these people were rescued as soon as they called out for help. Read the case of Howard Storm by googling his name. Other NDERs who witnessed others suffering in Hell had the strong impression that all these souls had to do was choose not to be there. Basically it was a self created reality. As for the Devil if there is such as thing it was created collectively by thoughts. Thoughts are things. One question no one has been able to answer when I asked is if there really is a devil why was'nt the devil cast into some far away galaxy where it would have been all alone with his fellow trouble makers and have been unable to corrupt God's creation?
I want to add one more thing about NDEs and Hell. One experiencer who went to the light thought he deserved Hell. God told him there is no such place. The soul insisted that he need to fry himself because of his sins so the light told him to create his own Hell which the soul did. When he got tired of frying himself he said to the light that there really is no Hell is there? The light responded with humor and said that's right.
That story above was pretty funny.
I used to have books on NDE's and alien abductions and all sorts of New Age stuff back in my pre-Catholic days.
One of the hallmarks of New Age thought is the denial of absolute reality and absolute truth. There is no reality as far as the New Age theory goes, which is a denial of creation itself. Hell is just as much an actual place as the earth and the sun and the moon and the stars and everything else that God created. Why would it be so hard to grasp that He made Hell when He made everything else here? It is not "self"-created, but it is self-chosen, if you will, and Catholic theology has always been very clear about that. In other words, God doesn't "send" you to Hell - you literally "send" yourself there by choosing to reject Him and reject His word. Again, an aping of the original doctrine on the part of the New Age.
The devil himself is also a being created by God, not some mystical creation of collective thought - but, a real being. And he is a fallen creature that no longer has his original glory, because he (Lucifer) chose not to serve.
God did create a place where He sent the devil and his angels to be far away from the world (underneath, not above in the heavens - so, no galaxy far away) but He did not promise that the world would be purged from its fallen state until Christ's return. Hence, the reason why the devil and his demons are still here corrupting God's fallen world. The Bible calls him the prince of this world for that reason, but he is only allowed such actions as God wills it, and God promised there is a finite amount of time before the end of days for this to occur.