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Originally Posted by janasmama
I don't understand why there is so much question as to who God is or his son Jesus or the Holy Spirit. The thing is that you need to believe in all three to understand because Christ is what connects us to God...he intercedes for us because he understands our earthly life.
The Bible tells all of God that he wants us to know and what we need to know. If we knew anymore our little minds might pop.
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Twenty Reasons Why Theology (studying things OTHER than just the identity of Jesus) Matters
What response can be made to those who frown upon theology? What case can be made that there may in fact be a place for Bible schools, commentaries, serious biblical study and theology? I here offer twenty reasons for the need for theology.
One. If all we need to know is “Jesus loves me this I know, for the Bible tell me so”, then why did 40 authors write 66 books of the Bible, with over 31,000 verses? Wasn’t that a real waste of time and ink? Wasn’t that a bit of overkill? Indeed, why have four gospels? Isn’t one enough? Why was so much biblical revelation given if the Christian message is so simple?
Two. Why did the biblical authors write major detailed and somewhat complicated theological writings, such as Paul’s letters to the Romans and Galatians, or the epistle to the Hebrews? There is a lot of complex and deep theology going on there. These writers were clearly trying to convey some elaborate and systematic theological truths. If they thought such theological discussions were necessary, then so should we.
Three. Biblical writers even admit that their writings are not always easy to comprehend. For example, consider the remarks of Peter about the teachings of Paul: “Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.” (2 Pet 3:15-16)
Or consider what the writer of Hebrews says concerning Melchizedek in Heb. 5:11: “We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain because you are slow to learn.” Some issues simply seem to be complicated enough that further explanation and teaching are necessary.
Four. We are in fact told to move on from the more basic and elemental truths of Scripture. Thus Paul says we should go beyond the milk of the word: “I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready”. (1 Cor 3:2) The meat of the word that we are to aim at would seem to imply some heavier theological content.
Or as Paul says elsewhere: “Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.” (Eph 4:14)
The author of Hebrews makes a similar point: “In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness.” (Heb 5:12-13)
Five. The Bible says some were given the gift of teaching. Thus some members in the body of Christ are teachers. This presupposes that there is a need of teaching, and God has chosen to use other Christians to meet that need. Everything isn’t so clear cut and black and white. We all need instruction, training and teaching.
The importance of teachers is illustrated in the story about Phillip in Acts 8:30,31: “Then Philip ran up to the chariot and heard the man reading Isaiah the prophet. ‘Do you understand what you are reading?’ Philip asked. ‘How can I,’ he said, ‘unless someone explains it to me?’ So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.”
Six. If everything is so clear and easy to understand, why does Scripture say that we should study to show ourselves approved? (2 Tim. 2:15) Presumably if we do not study, we will not earn God’s approval, at least in this regard. And the importance of study is mentioned elsewhere. We are informed that the Bereans were more noble the Thessalonians because they studied the Scriptures daily, to see if what Paul said was true (Acts 17:11)
Seven. No one has a direct pipeline to God via the Holy Spirit. We need each other. We are all members of one body and we rely on each other as Paul instructs us in 1 Co. 14 and 15. None of us has all the truth. We can learn from others. Protestants in general, and Pentecostals in particular, need to overcome their rugged individualism, and see the importance of the Christian community. Yes we can directly commune with God and have direct access to the truths of Scripture. But God has designed us to live, grow and flourish in a body. We are incomplete without each other. And that is true of our understanding of Scripture as well.
Eight. We are part of a great stream of Christian history. We can learn from our forebears. Others have gone before. We do not need to always reinvent the wheel. We can learn from how God has spoken to others in the past . We should learn from the mistakes of history, so we do not repeat them. Thus the importance of studying the great Christian thinkers and writers of the past.
And that can include the need of consulting good Bible commentaries. While it is not to take the place of individual Bible study, it is a good supplement to it. Just as we learn about the Word through the exposition of a pastor on a Sunday morning at church, so too we can learn about Scripture from the exposition of past saints in the form of commentaries and other Christian learning tools.
Nine. God is infinite and we are not. To study theology is to study the most complex, mind-blowing, humongous topic ever. Is God really all that simple and easy to figure out? A lifetime of study and learning will not get us close to fathoming the depths and riches of God. And theology is simply that: the study of God. If we are in a love relationship with someone, we desire to know all we can about that person. In the same way, our love relationship with God should include the desire to know more and more about him. Thus the need and importance of theology.
Ten. We all need to have our idols shattered. God is the grand iconoclast. He shatters our distorted and narrow images of Him. We are all limited and stunted in our knowledge and understanding of who God is and what his revelation is all about. Thus theology helps us to gain a more accurate and biblical understanding of who our Lord is.
Eleven. We all see through a glass darkly, as Paul says in 1 Cor. 13:12. We all come with blinders on, with biases, with pre-conceived ideas, with limited perspectives. No one has all the truth. We are all fallen and finite, so our understanding is always imperfect and limited. Theological reflection helps us to refine and clarify our perception of God.
Twelve. If everything is so simple and clear cut, why are there so many major debates on so many issues? Issues of debate and controversy include: the nature of salvation; the relation between grace and works; law and gospel; election and human choice; the role of women in ministry; how we understand the early chapters of Genesis; different views of eschatology; the Lord’s supper; the gifts of the spirit; church government; baptism; etc. These are all weighty matters that need to be thought through.
Thirteen. If everything is so clear, why are there tens of thousands of different denominations? Why so much disunity in the world-wide church if doctrinal matters are so plain? If it were all so simple, why can’t we all agree? Of course not all of these disagreements have to do with doctrinal differences, but perhaps most do in one way or another.
Fourteen. If the message of salvation is so simple, why can’t the churches agree? A major reason for the Reformation and the split with Roman Catholicism was the question of the nature of salvation. Salvation is obviously basic to the Christian faith. But even this core doctrine seems to be subject to debate, confusion and division.
Fifteen. While the gospel message does not change, our understanding of it does, and our cultures change. Each generation needs to wrestle with Scripture afresh, and seek to understand it and make it known clearly. An unchanging gospel always needs to be re-examined by each new generation of believers.
Sixteen. A little humility goes a long way. We need a humble and teachable spirit. Yes knowledge puffs up, but so too does a lack of a teachable spirit. To say we don’t need others or that we can’t learn from others is a sign of pride, not godliness. Theologians and teachers are given to us for our good, and we need to acknowledge our indebtedness to them.
Seventeen. Even though the gospel message stays the same, the application of it to new issues and developments requires careful biblical thinking and theological reflection. For example, how do we understand nuclear war, human cloning or genetic engineering from a biblical viewpoint? New issues need to be assessed by the timeless truths of Scripture.
Eighteen. If the Bible really is so clear and simple to understand, then presumably the meaning of the following passages and ideas should be apparent to all:
What is baptism for the dead? 1 Cor 15:29
Should women teach? 1 Tim 2:11-12
Who are the spirits in prison that were preached to? 1 Pet 3:19
How do you explain the Trinity?
How can people make free choices if God knows the future in every detail?
Can God create a rock so big that even he can’t lift it?
I dare say that if just one of these passages were given to a group of twenty people, and they were told to go away and come back with the meaning, there may well be twenty different understandings and interpretations of the passage given. Being a spirit-filled Christian, in other words, is no guarantee that one will always interpret Scripture properly. The tools of theology help us as we approach God’s word.
Nineteen. Christianity is in large measure distinguished from other religions by its truth claims. That is, Christianity is based on propositional content, and this content distinguishes it from other religious worldviews. Thus that content and body of truth claims must be understood and proclaimed. It is not enough simply to offer a personal, subjective experience. Sure, our experience is important, but it must be validated by truth claims. Plenty of religious experiences can be found in other religious traditions, cults, and the New Age Movement. It is not enough simply to compare stories. Stories must be assessed by how they measure up to truth and reality.
Twenty. When Jesus was asked what was the greatest commandment, he said that we are to love God with the fullness of our being; that is with all our heart, soul, mind and strength. All three Synoptic Gospels feature this saying. Thus God must be loved with our intellect as well as out emotions and will. Loving God intellectually includes the need to study, to learn, to wrestle with the great theological truths of Scripture.