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post #41 of 49
Fabulous post!
post #42 of 49
Thank you :
post #43 of 49
Who would buy a infant male's foreskin? You'd be surprised!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yX2SocprdI
The bio-tech industry's profits ($$$) in infant males' foreskins.

You're paying someone to mutilate your child! It just doesn't make any sense!
post #44 of 49
And to tie together a few things that Blue Raz said, one big reason that they do not use pain medication is so that they can sell it. They can only sell it for creams and research and whatnot if it's "pure", so if they put the numbing cream on it wouldn't be worth money anymore. :
post #45 of 49
Welcome, mommyintx! And Congratulations on your pregnancy. I'll share with you my story, to explain why I feel the way I do abot infant circumcision:

When I was pregnant 14 years ago, we had no idea that circumcision was controversial. Dh and I both believed that it was more of a social thing than medical, and our family doctor agreed. Our thoughts at the times were as follows: 1) That's GOT to HURT! We didn't want to do anything to cause our babies pain. 2) Circumcision is a custom that we did not feel obligated to continue.

I first discovered a circumcision debate board when the boys were a year or two old. I tried very hard to find a reason TO circumcise my sons - after all, DH and I didn't do any research before they were born (other than talking to our doctor), and I wanted what was best for them. I figured if there was a good reason for circumcision, it wasn't too late.

The more I learned, the more I realized that the purported medical benefits of infant circumcision weren't that great. I also learned about the risk of complications, such as adhesions, meatal stenosis, hemmorage and infection. I also learned more about how the operation was performed - often without any anesthetic.

At the same time, I could see for myself that a foreskin was nothing to be afraid of. Not only were they my sons' very favorite bathtub toy, I appreciated how they protected my sons' penises from particularly ooky diapers.

But all this time I was still very much "pro-parental choice". I figured it was up to each set of parents to decide what to do - I didn't feel strongly about intactivism.

Then, in October of 1998, I read in my local paper about Dustin Evans, the Cleveland boy that died as a result of circmcision complications. I was absolutely appalled. I never in a million years would have imagined that a normal, healthy baby boy could die because of his circumcision. That day I jumped firmly off the fence onto the anti-circumcision camp, and I haven't seen anything in 10 years to change my mind.
post #46 of 49
You might also be interested in how my sons feel about it. When they learned about circumcision when they were 8, they were absolutely horrified. They couldn't understand why anyone would want to cut off their foreskin. When I explained that most people don't choose it for themselves, but their parents do it to them, they were appalled. They got very sad, and felt very sorry for any babies that got circumcised. When we explained that their Dad was circumcised, one of them said "Poor Dad! He's missing the best part!"

Now, at 13, they wouldn't give their foreskins up for anything.

My son's response, I think, it very telling. Since they had never heard of circumcision before, the idea was completely foreign, and bizarre. If we were not raised in a society that considered infant circumcision "normal", we would all be shocked and horrified at the idea of cutting the normal, healthy genitals of a baby boy.

So instead of thinking about this in terms of "Why shouldn't I circumcise my son?", instead ask yourself "Why should I?"

I guarantee you will not be able to come up with a reason good enough to justify the pain and risk of complications - both immediate and long-term.
post #47 of 49
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Since someone questioned me in a pm, I can have had sex with someone left intact and not understand the complete anatomy. It doesnt mean that I know that it retracted and did this and that. I didnt study it in depth!
post #48 of 49
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Since someone questioned me in a pm, I can have had sex with someone left intact and not understand the complete anatomy. It doesnt mean that I know that it retracted and did this and that. I didnt study it in depth!
Absolutely! There was one woman on here a while ago (maybe she's still around, I haven't been around much lately and don't remember who it was ) who had sex with an intact man and didn't even know he was intact until much later. Intact and circumcised penises look virtually the same when erect which puts into perspective the "circumcised penises look better" argument Especially since the vast majority of Americans who use that argument have never even seen a whole penis in real life.

I even didn't know my ex-boyfriend of one year was intact until after we broke up... his current girlfriend (at the time) who was a friend of mine told me I didn't know what retraction was called despite being married to an intact man until I started reading here two years into my marriage and 4 years into our relationship. I must admit that I'm very happy dh has all his bits and so is he!

love and peace.
post #49 of 49
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Absolutely! There was one woman on here a while ago (maybe she's still around, I haven't been around much lately and don't remember who it was ) who had sex with an intact man and didn't even know he was intact until much later. Intact and circumcised penises look virtually the same when erect which puts into perspective the "circumcised penises look better" argument Especially since the vast majority of Americans who use that argument have never even seen a whole penis in real life.

I even didn't know my ex-boyfriend of one year was intact until after we broke up... his current girlfriend (at the time) who was a friend of mine told me I didn't know what retraction was called despite being married to an intact man until I started reading here two years into my marriage and 4 years into our relationship. I must admit that I'm very happy dh has all his bits and so is he!

love and peace.
I could have written your post. I think I am the person you speak of. I really had no idea the mechanics of it until I looked into it when I found out I was having a boy. I knew it was a pointless mean surgery but I had no idea HOW mean it was until I was looking around the interweb and came upon some pictures.
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