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post #21 of 162
Aly22681: SORRY TO HEAR THAT U GOT AF THIS MORNING BUT I AM EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR JUNE IVF!! I WILL BE PRAYING FOY U!!
post #22 of 162
Aly- good luck with your IVF cycle. I'm sorry af showed, but how great to have a plan and to feel so positive! :

biomama- how are you doing today?
post #23 of 162
Still no AF, temps still above coverline at 12dpo (AF is due today), but a BFN! Ug. I've always had a drop on 12dpo and that's when AF shows up.

I guess I have to keep waiting!
I'm at least proud that I waited this long to test.

I think I still feel a little PMSy, but I'm now noticing it's a little different - more like O-pains now. ??

I just told DH I wish I could go back to sleep and wake up again tomorrow morning for my temp! so silly
post #24 of 162
yay for bfps!!!


nothing new here... still bleeding... (yay )
post #25 of 162
Thread Starter 
Updated to here

I added a few new posters and updated Aly. Please remember to BOLD your requests for changes.

to everyone AF found this weekend.

As for me, the IUI went well. The weekend Dr. was on duty and it was a little rough on my cervix, but it all went well. DH is convinced we are going to have twins b/c there were at least two eggs in there. My chart shows I ovulated saturday, so hopefully we timed it just right. In the mean time, I'm battling a cold causing disgusting amounts of snot.

Have a great week everyone!

kim
post #26 of 162
EastbayK - thinking lots of fertile thoughts for you...

My update: In the 2ww - we had two nice Day 3 embryos transferred yesterday. So now we just sit and wait...
post #27 of 162
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Originally Posted by kJad29 View Post
Also, I would like to start a PG after TTC12+ months Thread for those of us who have been ttc'ing for a long time. We come with our own emotions on the topic and it's different than the lady whose DP just breathed on her or she got an insem (for my lesbian sisters) and got pregnant right away. It's way different. So if anyone would like to join that thread, I would be very happy if you would. I feel that it's important...
If I get knocked up next month, I would LOVE a thread like that.
post #28 of 162
Kemi - CONGRTULATIONS!!!

Aly - I'm sorry for your bfn this cycle. Yeah for getting in for a June IVF cycle. May it produce that longed for bfp

Perdita - May your waiting go quickly and peacefully to a beautiful ending. : Did your dr think the nursing affected the treatment at all? I'd love to hear more about that since I'm curretly nursing a 22 mo and was recommended to go to IVF.

to all of the new ladies joining us. May you soon graduate.

An update on me. I had the re-consult with the re on Thursday. They did another ultrasound at that time (CD19) and my multiple follicles were still no larger than 9. The dr came in the room during the ultrasound and had me look at the follicles on one ovary and try to count how many there were (over 10). He then proceeded to tell me that he was going to recommend IVF because of the large number of follicles. When we talked after the ultrasound, he told me my options. 1) I can use the fertility shots with intercourse or iui, but this is not recommended based upon the large number of follicles I produce (PCOS). Basically, he said that I would likely ovulate many eggs and there is a good chance I could have a higher order pregnancy. We're not talking twins here, but more like quadruplets, quintuplets or more. So, he's strongly recommending IVF so we can control how many embryos are transferred to reduce the risk of a multiple pregancy. I never thought I would be in this position, at least not nearly this quickly. Since I don't ovulate or have periods on my own, we can start anytime once we concur. My dh and I are talking, but we don't know yet what to do. Any thoughts, ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
post #29 of 162
No personal experience here, but you might think about how you feel about selective reduction too. My RE told me that if Femara doesn't work we'll have the option of injectables/IUI or IVF, and she said that if we are strongly opposed to selective reduction we should choose IVF. I don't know anything about the risks to other babies/risks to mom with selective reduction, not to mention the heartbreaking nature of the decision (particularly after infertility). Not to mention the increased cost of IVF.

So... for having to make these decisions at all. Hopefully someone else can chime in with a better answer. I haven't given a lot of thought to it, because I've got some time before we get to that point, and I'm hoping we never get there.
post #30 of 162
Update

I’m going back and forth if I should starting seeing an acupuncturist or try some other method. Western anything never worked for me in the past, but I wonder how I would do.

In the past, I didn’t give acupuncture enough time (two months) so nothing really happened. At the time, money and time (since I work full-time) was/is an issue.

Acupuncture is at least $300 a month (more like $400+ if you have to go in more than once a week). That doesn’t include herbs etc. Finding the right person is imperative.

I have not been temping this cycle because I need to get some distance. I’m on CD 26 and have NO idea where I am. We made sure to BD or couse especially when I had EWCM (yesterday) but that the extent of ttc right now. In a perfect world, it would be enough.
post #31 of 162
Hey everyone! Wow lots of news and I can't remember all I wanted to say. Good luck with your 2ww Perdita!!

Please add/change for me:
Weaned dd in order to do IVF, doing weekly acupuncture and gearing up for another cycle of IVF/ICSI.
post #32 of 162
: Sorry for all whose unwanted guest, AF, showed up.

: Here's hoping for the best to all of those waiting for results!

Julia'sMom, I don't know your history, but would Clomid be an option to try before IVF?

I started IVF yesterday and I'd make an awful nurse! It took me four times of injecting myself, before I finally did it right.
post #33 of 162
Welcome to gumby74 and puffnstuff!


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Originally Posted by baturay View Post
I'm here. We thought we were heading for clomid to conceive dc #3, which is how the other two were conceived, but instead found (after my HSG) that both of my tubes are blocked. so we are starting IVF for the first time this sunday. i'm both excited and nervous, and totally feeling overwhelmed by the mini-pharmacy i have in my refrig.
hoping it works on the first time!
Baturay-- I'm sorry about your tubes, that must have been really difficult to hear . I'll keep my : for your IVF cycle.

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Originally Posted by baturay View Post
I started IVF yesterday and I'd make an awful nurse! It took me four times of injecting myself, before I finally did it right.
I am an RN and learning to give shots takes practice for everyone !

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Originally Posted by Aly22681 View Post
Well AF showed, so I guess its off to IVF for us, I'm really excited bc they got me into a June cycle YAY!!!!!!!!!!! However I am really nervous about the whole process!!!
Aly, about AF! June! That was fast, I'm so happy to hear that they were able to get you in so soon!

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Originally Posted by EastbayK View Post
As for me, the IUI went well. The weekend Dr. was on duty and it was a little rough on my cervix, but it all went well. DH is convinced we are going to have twins b/c there were at least two eggs in there. My chart shows I ovulated saturday, so hopefully we timed it just right. In the mean time, I'm battling a cold causing disgusting amounts of snot.
: :

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My update: In the 2ww - we had two nice Day 3 embryos transferred yesterday. So now we just sit and wait...
Yay, Perdita!!! Consider my : for you, too!

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Originally Posted by Julia'sMom View Post
An update on me. I had the re-consult with the re on Thursday. They did another ultrasound at that time (CD19) and my multiple follicles were still no larger than 9. The dr came in the room during the ultrasound and had me look at the follicles on one ovary and try to count how many there were (over 10). He then proceeded to tell me that he was going to recommend IVF because of the large number of follicles. When we talked after the ultrasound, he told me my options. 1) I can use the fertility shots with intercourse or iui, but this is not recommended based upon the large number of follicles I produce (PCOS). Basically, he said that I would likely ovulate many eggs and there is a good chance I could have a higher order pregnancy. We're not talking twins here, but more like quadruplets, quintuplets or more. So, he's strongly recommending IVF so we can control how many embryos are transferred to reduce the risk of a multiple pregancy. I never thought I would be in this position, at least not nearly this quickly. Since I don't ovulate or have periods on my own, we can start anytime once we concur. My dh and I are talking, but we don't know yet what to do. Any thoughts, ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
As a former NICU RN, the steeply increased risk of prematurity for high order multiples (HOM) would be a huge consideration for me, and I don't know if I would have the heart to go through with selective reduction. I, personally, would lean toward IVF, but nothing is failsafe. And, in my case, what worries me about going straight to IVF is that if it doesn't work, there's no other higher level of intervention to go to, the buck stops there (although, there are always various changes in protocol that can be made to increase chances of success in subsequent IVF attempts). Good luck with whatever you and your DH decide .

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Originally Posted by songbird45 View Post
No personal experience here, but you might think about how you feel about selective reduction too. My RE told me that if Femara doesn't work we'll have the option of injectables/IUI or IVF, and she said that if we are strongly opposed to selective reduction we should choose IVF. I don't know anything about the risks to other babies/risks to mom with selective reduction, not to mention the heartbreaking nature of the decision (particularly after infertility). Not to mention the increased cost of IVF.
Selective reduction is an issue to think about either way you go because, while you can control the number of embryos put back with IVF, you can't account for the possibility of the embryos splitting (and the risk for identical twinning is slightly increased with ICSI and/or assisted hatching).


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Originally Posted by barose View Post
I’m going back and forth if I should starting seeing an acupuncturist or try some other method. Western anything never worked for me in the past, but I wonder how I would do.
Barose, the first RE I spoke with was a doc at the Pacific Fertility Center in SF and she does free 30 minute initial phone consults-- if you were considering trying Western medicine again (maybe in conjunction with acupuncture, etc.) you might consider taking advantage of the free opportunity to talk to an RE about your situation and see what her thoughts are.
post #34 of 162
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Originally Posted by Julia'sMom View Post

Perdita - May your waiting go quickly and peacefully to a beautiful ending. : Did your dr think the nursing affected the treatment at all? I'd love to hear more about that since I'm curretly nursing a 22 mo and was recommended to go to IVF.
Thanks :-)
My RE doesn't know about the nursing - he wanted me to wean DD. After a lot of soul-searching, I made the decision to continue. She's not nursing much anyway because she is in daycare, so it's before work, after work sometimes, and bed-time. For our second (unsuccesful IVF in Jan - the embryos didn't survive to transfer) I was night-nursing, but we night-weaned not long after. Based on the three cycles, I haven't seen any differences between the first in 2004 and these in terms of dosage, # follicles, response, etc. With a younger child, or a child who nursed more, there might be more of an effect. There's no right answer here. I decided to continue because I'd researched the safety and felt it was safe and I didn't want to lose that relationship over an attempt to get pregnant. Other women have made the opposite choice and I can completely understand that - it's very personal.

I agree about the multiple births - that would worry me a lot.

Take care!
post #35 of 162
hi everyone! i am in the 2ww as well. had my ET on mon. they transfered 2 embryos, 1 7 celled and 1 6 celled. I am a bit nervous b/c they are supposed to be 8 celled by day 3, but i am keeping my finger and everything else crossed that they will stick!! DH & I both really want twins b/c ivf is out of pocket for us and emotionally it was too difficult on me...i don't want to go through it again. originally i wanted 4 kids, but if we got twins with this ivf i think we would stop all together or pursue adoption once we have the financial means.

please send my embryos sticky thoughts
post #36 of 162
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Originally Posted by kristinc View Post
hi everyone! i am in the 2ww as well. had my ET on mon. they transfered 2 embryos, 1 7 celled and 1 6 celled. I am a bit nervous b/c they are supposed to be 8 celled by day 3, but i am keeping my finger and everything else crossed that they will stick!! DH & I both really want twins b/c ivf is out of pocket for us and emotionally it was too difficult on me...i don't want to go through it again. originally i wanted 4 kids, but if we got twins with this ivf i think we would stop all together or pursue adoption once we have the financial means.

please send my embryos sticky thoughts
Consider it done Kristin! From the West Coast...
:::



I'm sorry this process has been and is so hard on so many levels. It is so hard to "rewrite" the story of how all this was supposed to go. I hear you. I wanted a *family* and at 34 with no kids and this IF ticking along, I cannot help but feel things slipping away a bit. My heart goes out to you and I really hope, with goosebumps and tearing eyes that it works.

Baturay, Yes, hugs and hugs for the HSG results. I'm so sorry and hope that ivf is a smooth path for you. Hang in there.

GL Perdita! Congrats on your transfer! Thinking all the stickiest for you as well!

GL EastbayK! How is your DH doing? I've been thinking about you.

Aly, I'm so sorry AF showed, but I'm glad you are moving forward with the IVF so soon and at a lower cost. Everything positive your way...

Juliasmom, I don't have any advice, but . I hope you find what's right here for you.

Barose, I do a blend of Eastern and Western and it feels "right" for me. I go to acup. weekly and take Chinese herbs and have a yoga/meditation practice. I also take 100 mg clomid, progesterone and am now doing IUI's. I like to have all my bases covered ffrom all directions. Then at the end of the day, I can say hey I'm doing everything I can, so I have to let go as much as I can here. GL!

As for me, I'm 17 dpIUI, but this is not exciting news. Ii take progesterone and it takes me a while to get AF. The bfns are stacking up like dominos, but I did get a blood test today to help clarify it all.
post #37 of 162
oh kristen I'm sending you all the sticky vibes I've got!!
post #38 of 162
you girls are so sweet you make me cry
post #39 of 162
Thread Starter 
Updated to here.

Good Luck to everyone in the 2ww! Perdita and Kristinc, you two are cycle buddies! I hope it works for both of you.

I hate that any of us are stuck in the ART position and as Poetgirl said, are having to rewrite the story of how it's all supposed to go.

As for us- DH is hitting the hard part of treatment now. Radiation is making him feel like garbage and he's on a mostly liquid diet due to the pain of swallowing. He gets weighed 2x a week to make sure he's eating enough. It's tough on me to hear him all night long moaning and whispering "ow, ow, ow" every time he swallows. But this too shall pass. I had a job interview yesterday so hopefully there is good news on the horizon on more than one front for us.

Kim
post #40 of 162
my temp dropped like a rock this morning. : I expect AF any second now... on to cycle 7, IUI maybe now with clomid?

Kim, I'm so sorry that you and your DH are going through that. I'm thinking about you...

kristinc, I hope you get beautiful twins
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