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jaxinsmom...how old is Nellah? my dh wants to get one for Henry...we think he would LOVE it. I feel like he isn't ready yet...how can you tell?
she's 3.5 months. If he can hold his head up without ANY help -- meaning great neck control (when he's sitting and his head he looks up, can he move his head back to a 'normal' position, or does it fall backward and need your help?)

I think she just likes the independence of being able to look around and move on her own.
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Instead I'll settle for catching Grace and getting to kiss her before the nicu team stole her away from me for nearly 2 weeks. ]
, I'm so sorry this happened.
However; she is freaking adorable Love the pic with all of them!
post #263 of 379
birthmommom-
The fact that you think he is "unsatisfied" probably has to do with a growth spurt. Just let him nurse when he wants to, and often, and he will work through it. REally what he's probably trying to do is increase your milk, and constant nursing is the solution.
I would suggest trying to eliminate one thing from your diet before moving to the next. You could start with dairy and still keep eggs in your diet for now. Beans are good for cheap protein, too. Remember that Americans tend to eat way more protein than they actually need, so you probably don't need to worry about it.
I'm not sure that ffing at night would work. Some women will lose their supply under those circumstances. Also, if he IS allergic to something, who is to say that the formula won't make it worse? Then you may be stuck without a supply but without a formula. And, formula will be much more expensive than bfing, even if you have to eliminate eggs and dairy from your diet.
No judgment, just trying to throw these things out there!

I have to go, but am reading.
post #264 of 379
Since folks are talking about formula choices, I just thought I'd throw this out there: http://www.westonaprice.org/children/recipes.html

I don't know how many of you are familiar with the benefits of raw cow's milk, but I personally know one family whose children had horrible allergies to pasturized milk, but not raw. Just something to think about. There's lots about it over at Traditional Foods here.
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Birthmommom For what it's worth, River's reflux symptoms are rearing their head again now, and so is the night-waking, and I know he's getting plenty of boobyjuice. Without boring you with the technicalities of breastfeeding, the hormones that support brastfeeding are produced in the pituary gland which is stimulated by, amongst other things, darkness- and so typically most women experience a rush of oxytocin at around 2am, and often babies feed more frequently from this time onwards in response to this stimulus, and also encouraging it. Therefore, by supplementing at night (from 2am onwards) you'd actually do far more damage to your milk supply than you would giving those quantities of formula during the day. Does this make sense?
FWIW, I can totally relate. At this age, Alex was on baby rice because he never ever stopped rooting and screaming for food, his weight gain was good, etc.- health visitor suggested solids, I was too clueless to know otherwise. It did settle his reflux down, though, which was probably the main cause. What I should have done, and I'm kind of recommending you try, is cluster feeding- feed him on one boob for 3 hours at a time, taking it to 6 hours if needed. I'm right in thinking that you've had a lot of milk, aren't I?

Dea, a little more light reading at www.babymilkaction.org I run the local group round here, and it's a subject very dear to my heart. I can waffle on at length, so don't get me started.
post #266 of 379
Holy Moly Mindi!! It's so good to see you!!! I've been wondering about you and your sweet boy! Good to see you around!

Birthmommom, you can find a way, you really will! I sometimes let giving up on breastfeeding flit through my mind too. I'm sure many mommas think on it. Selesai is right about adding beans to your diet to increase your protein, they really are cheap, a little time intensive, but not if you get a system of cooking them down. I reckon she's right about nursing to up the supply too. Sometimes 'Nara will only take a bottle too, usually right before she goes to bed, especially if we've had the routine interupted (and I suspect if I have had more than a cup of coffee). I need to eliminate dairy and caffeine I think, I've halfway tried it before, but I think that might be the source of some of Senara's irritability issues at night. We can work on it together! (Where's a holding hands smilie?) Is Henry teething? Oh you did talk about an amber necklace... 'Nara likes to chew the nipple of the bottle (seems to be the only acceptable chew for her), could that be something Henry likes?

Interesting to know that about readiness for certain seats. 'Nara does NOT like to lie down that much any more, and she won't be ok with sitting if someone's holding her for too long. She MUST stand, and that's final! She doesn't do the bouncy thing, she's just straight legged and really rather strong. I wonder if we should look for a bouncy bounce thing.

Oh Mommas I'm so sorry I brought up the birth issues thing, I hate to think I stirred some difficult stuff up for you by mentioning it. Really, I have no business whining (whinging?) about my experience. There was nothing but my own failure/panic. That's kind of why I've not written a birth story or said much about it. I really don't feel that, given some of the really rough things some of you have been through, I've got any place to whine about what was my own doing.

ok I want to end this on a positive note... C Sharp! Anyone got any plans this weekend? It's a 3-dayer for the Americanas here who work in an office situation. I'm so thrilled for a minibreak. We're going to my Gram's summer home. We're going to have fires at night. I cannot wait, I've been itching for some fire!!
post #267 of 379
There's a great group on livejournal called birthtrauma (birthtrauma.livejournal.com) especially for Moms whose births didn't go the way they'd planned. If you're on lj you should check it out. You're not alone in having regrets or unresolved feelings about your births.

Today is my 4 year anniversary. Wow, time flies. Things have been hard at home, making this a kind of bittersweet occasion. ALSO, it marks a full year since I last had a period. One year ago I got my period, and 2 weeks later I conceived Robin.

I'm trying to arrange play groups with other Moms in my area, mostly so I don't go nuts being home all the time while dh is at work. I'm excited to have the summer off for the first time in years!! I am loving the 3 month old stage, Robin seems to bloom more every day.
post #268 of 379
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Since folks are talking about formula choices, I just thought I'd throw this out there: http://www.westonaprice.org/children/recipes.html

I don't know how many of you are familiar with the benefits of raw cow's milk, but I personally know one family whose children had horrible allergies to pasturized milk, but not raw. Just something to think about. There's lots about it over at Traditional Foods here.
I was really hoping to make my own formula using Goat's Milk. However, as much as I LOVE liver... fried with onions;
I can't stand the thought of grating it up raw in my baby's formula. :Puke
I need a pet ape.
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I'm leaving for the burn. Should be fun.
post #270 of 379
Have fun!


I have an ear infection....again...for the fourth time since DS2 was born. Granted I havent been to the dr. yet, but I've been trying to avoid antiBs like the plague since we've already done the thrush thing. This one is so bad I was having nightmares last night from the pain. So we're definitely going to try to get in to a dr. soon.

Bad thing is my house is a wreck and I don't have the energy to clean it. They'll be here around 7:30/8 tonight.

Well Steven is no longer happy on the floor so I'm off to get Austin his drink and then nurse Steven hopefully into a nap.
post #271 of 379
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you know I was wondering if it was like that... one of those things you can never get *perfect* no matter what you do.
Well, i've only had four births, so i'm no expert, but i do know that "i'm glad you had the birth you wanted" is what the jugemental, anti-homebirth anti-uc people said when Terran was born instead of "congratulations" even though i most emphatically did NOT have the empowering water birth i've been wanting for over 20 years and was heartbroken that i had to out and out lie to ds1.

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=820278

I'm not about to complain in front of birthrape.survivors, but I am going to suggest that you don't assume that all UCs or all planned C sections are the same. "Congratulations" or "S/he's beautiful" are much kinder things to say to a new mom who may still be processing trauma and regrets, however large or small.
post #272 of 379
Welcome new mamas!

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So we have been having some nursing and sleep issues. Ds doesn't seem to nurse very well lately. he will nurse for 5-10 mins then pull off. I will latch him back on or he will latch himself and pull off...after 3 or 4 times I will decide he is done or try the other side...which he will do the same thing. He is nursing but doesn't seem to be benefiting from the milk, I can feel that my breasts get softer. Sometimes he will take a bottle after a nursing session and I am not sure why. I did discover today that he nurses a little better in a quite room laying down...so we did that today.
Kaia just finished about a week of this kind of behavior! On, off, on, off, making me nutso. I was starting to get freaked out because it seemed like she never settled into a "real" nursing session, and I became *painfully* engorged, like how you describe. The laying down in a dark room was a trick I had been using before when she wouldn't / couldn't seem to calm herself down enough to nurse, but it wasn't seeming to help her at this, even laying down she was on, off, on, off. I think it is the getting ready for a growth spurt thing, and it *did* pass, as hard as it is at the time Hugs, love, and hang in there!

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I also feel like giving up b/c it looks like he may have food sensitivities to dairy or eggs...I posted something about his mucousy poop and I got a response about eliminating dairy, eggs and citrus. We are super broke and cheese and eggs are cheap sources of protein. if I don't eat these things I feel like I do not eat enough during the day.
Now of course I'm bias here on account of being vegan *but* I have to put in that we're poor as dirt right now, and it totally can be done It takes some learning and expanding. Seitan, for instance, is a great and delicious protein source, and while it takes a while to make, it is mostly stove time and very little actual prep time. The big thing it took for me to settle into my veganimity, yes, veganimity, just pretend it's a word, was find good recipe sources. After that, it was suddenly very very easy and exciting. If you're interested, check into the Veganomicon, it has day-today foods and labeled recipes that take under 45 minutes.

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ok I want to end this on a positive note... C Sharp! Anyone got any plans this weekend? It's a 3-dayer for the Americanas here who work in an office situation. I'm so thrilled for a minibreak. We're going to my Gram's summer home. We're going to have fires at night. I cannot wait, I've been itching for some fire!!
We're going up to a cabin DP's uncle owns with my older brother, his wife and their baby, and my little brother. It's in the middle of the woods in the middle of nowhere, I'm so excited for hiking, chilling, playing, and fires, too!

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I have an ear infection....again...for the fourth time since DS2 was born. Granted I havent been to the dr. yet, but I've been trying to avoid antiBs like the plague since we've already done the thrush thing. This one is so bad I was having nightmares last night from the pain. So we're definitely going to try to get in to a dr. soon.

Bad thing is my house is a wreck and I don't have the energy to clean it. They'll be here around 7:30/8 tonight.
In the meantime, have you tried neti potting? I struggle a lot with ear pain for reasons I've never been able to identify, but neti potting helps to warm and loosen all that stuff in there up, and it really helps me out. I hope you feel better soon! Also, I know you aren't happy about it I'm sure, but I am GREATLY relieved to hear that someone else's house is a wreck I am so frustrated about it but with what very little free time I have I just can't get myself to devote all of it to picking up and cleaning. I was just trying to show my MIL a dress I started working on for DD and I got, "I just wish you'd put away the laundry." bah! I need to do *something* else, my brain is turning to jello! I need to figure out how to get out more.. how to meet some other mamas, or just other *people* FFS.

Justmama - The picture of your three girls is just GORGEOUS!!
post #273 of 379
Juise, I know gas prices could be a big factor, but I'd be happy to meet up with you. We're close enough that it wouldn't be impossible. Maybe we could do a park somewhere between. Just a thought.
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And another thing! Haha I'm splitting up my post for two reasons, 1) So it doesn't look as long (shhhhh, no one will notice!) and, 2) Because I spend all day trying to write them, a sentance here, a couple words there So I wanted to get the first part out before my computer crashed or something.

I find myself so often feeling crazy and overwhelmed, frazzled, hectic, and caught up in the negative things going on, that I sometimes forget to really focus on all the wonderful things that are also going on. When this period of her life passes, it will just be gone, and I don't want to forget to hold on to these precious things as they pass. Anyway, I apologize for *another* long one, but I wanted to share these things.

I am sooo in love with my daughter. She is the *best*! It's so wonderful that she now gives, not just receives. She is full of smiles and giggles and she is just so beautiful. There is nothing like waking up in my normal state (angry, groggy, miserable, and ready to go back to sleep) and looking at my baby who just woke me up, and she SMILES. This big, goofy, excited smile. Every morning. Oh my gods. I love always having her with me, clinging to her mama, taking everything in. Learning, growing. I love sleeping wrapped around my baby with her little warm body tucked into my stomach. I love waking up at night to see her naked pink body scrambling on her tummy, eyes shut, blindly snuffing, snorting, trying to find a boob. Like a little piglet. Something about how PRIMAL she is, I love it. I adore the family bed. When we go to bed at night, we lay her in the middle and she has a little routine where she lays there on her back and turns her head to look at me, then whips it the other way to look at DP, then back, and forth, and back and forth, all the while smiling, and then goes to sleep.

I am so grateful that I am able to give her only boobfood and put cloth on her bum. I'm glad she sleeps with us in our bed, which, actually, we just took the bed frame apart and hit the floor with the mattress since Kaia is learning to roll more and more. I don't know what it is about it, but our bed now consists of 4 inch memory foam on the floor + pillows and blankets and I totally dig sleeping on the floor like that. I don't know why it makes such a difference to me, but it is so much more nest-like or something, I just really love it.

While I still don't EC full-time and am often frustrated with myself, some days we're so connected and she keeps the same diaper on allllll day and it feels so good. And she always really appreciates being able to empty out between diapers, not to mention the skin time. She poops a few times a day, but almost never in her diapers anymore. Maybe once every few days? So we save a lot of diaper washing / water / energy, yay!

Sometimes, while she is nursing, she notices I'm looking at her, and she looks up at me a loses her latch to grin at me, latches back on, starts to nurse again, pauses like something has occurred to her, stops nursing, and grins at me some more. There is just nothing like that charming little face smiling at me with a faceful of boob! No matter how empty I'm feeling, whenever she does this, it just fills me up with love a joy to overflowing.

Anyway, I guess that's all for now

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Juise, I know gas prices could be a big factor, but I'd be happy to meet up with you. We're close enough that it wouldn't be impossible. Maybe we could do a park somewhere between. Just a thought.
Ooooooo, I would totally love to!
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Sometimes, while she is nursing, she notices I'm looking at her, and she looks up at me a loses her latch to grin at me, latches back on, starts to nurse again, pauses like something has occurred to her, stops nursing, and grins at me some more. There is just nothing like that charming little face smiling at me with a faceful of boob! No matter how empty I'm feeling, whenever she does this, it just fills me up with love a joy to overflowing.
Oh juise, I loved your whole post but especially this... jackson does the same thing, he'll pop off the boob, look up at me and smile then starts babbling sweet baby talk I never want it to end!
post #277 of 379
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Anyone else loving the time spent at home with your baby/kids but missing being able to go to work and have that part of your life too?

I miss going to work sometimes... although I am doing some sahm work (just got my website up, although it is just promotional for now eventually it will be an ecommerce site, and I'm doing some art/craft shows around the area) trying to make a little extra $$ for the fam. But where I used to work was a lot of fun and sweet gals and I miss just getting out and not being at the house so much. We also are really hurting without my extra pay, even though it was only about $1000/mo it is the difference between dipping into savings to pay bills every month and having enough to put a little away. I wanted to start Jackson a savings account but when we can't even make the bills...

I've decided I need to get out and do something else besides errands and the occasional friend visits, I would love to do a mom/baby yoga class, join my friends at a belly dancing class or water aerobics... I wish all those things didn't cost $$!!

Maybe just a LLL meeting would be fun tho - what do you do at a LLL meeting?
post #278 of 379
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My critter up and outgrew all his early clothes at once, too. And it happened literally overnight. I know it was overnight because last Thursday, I had no trouble nursing him in my lap, and on Saturday we had nothing but trouble trying to get comfy - the old postures and holds don't work for my giant huge enormous baby!

It's strange, nursing. I was totally not enthused about it, and from the beginning had a very grim but-it's-good-for-him attitude. The first month was no fun, either. None of the happy hormones, no maternal glow. But I swore I'd give it the thirty days people said I needed to get the hang of it, and round about day 29... it got easier. Now, I still don't feel like glowing, but the sight of his pudgy little legs gives me such joy. I can't explain it.

A lady at the grocery store tried to get me to give him a cookie ("it's very soft! Let him gum it!") even though I said no. The thing was as big as his head and covered in pink sugar. I tried explaining that he was only three and a half months old, exclusively breastfed, etc. She would not let it go. She meant well, and was older, so I didn't want to be mean... so I grabbed the cookie, ate it, and said "Thank you so much, he'll get it in about two hours."

Thought you guys might enjoy that
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Anyone else loving the time spent at home with your baby/kids but missing being able to go to work and have that part of your life too?.
i teach a class 2 hours a week but i'd like a little more. the problem i have is living out of town so it's not worth my time/gas to do more. i'd love to find something in our small town for like 3 hours 3 days a week with childcare included......ahh..i love day dreaming!

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So we have been having some nursing and sleep issues.
allyn, this sounds liek a growth spurt. the best thing you can do is to just keep nursing away. try some oatmeal and lots of water to help him out. i know you are also treating some thrush and the on off thing makes me think a little of that so you may want to up the acidopholis for a couple days. i know these phases can be hard but it is so much easier in the long run! just hang in there and resist the urge to supplement as much as you can because that will extend this phase of him increasing your supply. The big growth spurts are around 3 weeks, 6 weeks, 3 months, and 6 months so you are definately "on schedule" for one. Hang in there! I hope today is looking brighter for you.

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Oh Mommas I'm so sorry I brought up the birth issues thing, I hate to think I stirred some difficult stuff up for you by mentioning it.
I think you should share your story and feel free to open up about your birth. I know I've wondered (I'm kind of nosey though) I don't think you could "trigger" someone else to have issues. I do think it's like Cheryl said, it's one of those things you never get "perfect". That's the way it is for me atleast. I had a lovely homebirth this time and there are still things I think about and wish had gone differently. Birth is somehting that is so anticipated and planned it's virtually impossible for it to go exactly as planned. That's not to say that birth can't be wonderful and empowering and even better than anticipated but all that thinking and planning is hard to materialize for some women. Just be good to yourself and work thru it as you need to.

Lauren I hope things improve for you!

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It's strange, nursing. I was totally not enthused about it, and from the beginning had a very grim but-it's-good-for-him attitude. The first month was no fun, either. None of the happy hormones, no maternal glow. But I swore I'd give it the thirty days people said I needed to get the hang of it, and round about day 29... it got easier. Now, I still don't feel like glowing, but the sight of his pudgy little legs gives me such joy. I can't explain it.
I remember with my dd, when she was like 4 months old, realizing that she was grown purely from me. I grew her in my body and nourished her from my breast and I was so damn proud of myself!!! I totally get it.

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"Thank you so much, he'll get it in about two hours."
Good one!

juise- i loved your post!

So I made a diaper cover last night. It turned out pretty darn good! I was very proud. I made it for DD because she is still in a diaper overnight and I put her cloth away (she's outgrown it now anyway) and we were using a disposables over night. I just realized that it was ridiculous and so I made her a cover to use. We'll see in the AM how well it works! Tonight I'm making a sling for my cousin. I really like sewing when I can get a few uninteruped moments!

For those of you that pray, please do for my sister. She is battling severe depression (and has for over a year now) and is currently very suicidal. It's both scarey and stressful for all of us after this long let alone what she's going thru. Other than her husband I am her main support person and she spends a lot of time with us when she can't be alone and he works so it's a heavy burden to bear for myself as well. It is defiantely easier now that I'm not pregnant, but we could use some prayers/good vibes/hopes that her new med increases take effect quickly! Thanks, I kind of just needed to vent that out a little.
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Hi everyone! I haven't posted here in a loooong time. And I have no idea what is going on with everyone although I am part of the yahoo group and read about the latest saga there. But I am so happy to see us back on MDC. (Am I going to get in trouble for saying that?!)

Natalie is three months old now and is so fun with her smiles and starting to chuckle at the strangest things like someone yawning or the cat walking by.

I went to a LLL meeting last night. I have decided that I really want to pursue breastfeeding education in some way, shape, or form so I thought that LLL would be a great place to start. THe leader last night is also a nurse who took time off to be with her kids, just like me. That was cool to have an old profession in common.

On other news, we just adopted an ex-racing greyhound named Scout. Yeah, yeah, I know the dog racing industry can be shady and abusive, but this guy is from a good kennel and was a great racer so he likely wasn't abused. We are glad to have him and give him a second chance but I think I am crazy to get a 72 lb dog when I am still trying to get used to having 3 kids, a dh, 3 cats, 2 fish.....

I haven't read the other posts much, but how are you ladies keeping your head above water? I feel like I am a successful mom to Natalie, but it seems like everything else is suffering.
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