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It's a new month so here's the new thread. :

April's thread: http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=874397
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We had a good day yesterday. Flew a kite at a nearby field. Had a wrestling match in bed. I quickly became out numbered when ds found an arsenal of "friends" (stuffed animals) which he put up to mischief. Ds took me out for a jog, meaning he rode to get water ice and I had to jog to keep up. Such a sweet boy, making sure I get some exercise.
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We're taking a day off, sort of.. yesterday we were out with friends in the morning, came home for a quick nap, then ran out for haircuts and a trip to Target. For 35 week pregnant me, that is a busy day. So today we're just hanging around the house, though I have the goal of crossing off three things from my pre-baby to-do list, as well as generally keeping the house semi-picked up. We'll probably head outside this afternoon to check on the garden, too. Tomorrow we're meeting friends for breakfast, visiting the midwife, and maybe going to the park in the afternoon.

Generally speaking, we've been slacking a bit as far as me providing entertaining/educational outings.. we were sick for three weeks and now I'm just so tired. But my two and a half year old surprised me by being able to count to fourteen, with actual one to one correspondence. Crazy stuff.. just goes to show that having an older sibling can be a great motivator.
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Happy May all It's Beltane so Dd and I made new candles (out of the old) for the altar and we'll make some goodies to eat later. I picked some dandelions too. People underestimate the beauty of a dandelion boquet.

Dd is reading the second book of the Twilight series now, and it's making her mad in a few ways. Apparently the one girl has "lost her effing mind!" and she's confused by some changes in the author's writing style in this book. Anyway, it's been fun to hear her to talk about it.

Ds is researching bikes for his upcoming birthday. He's also been reading up on the new Grand Theft Auto game. We have a couple of them already and I'll probably pick this new on up for him soon, if not as a b-day gift. I guess it's wayy better visually than the last so that's cool. He was reading an article last night in the paper about how MADD is calling for the game to be stopped. He was not pleased at all. He was telling me that he thinks part of the problem is that people think video games are purely a kids' market but that in recent years the population has shifted to the 30 year old guy market. Sure, kids and teens are still heavily into it, but adults have the cash for the increasingly expensive games. He thinks that that parents (or another adult) must be purchasing these rated M games for their kids so if that's the case they lose all rights to complain to the company. (He likened it to running over your kid with the car and then suing/boycotting Ford, buying them a beer and then being angry they drank alcohol, etc)

I love hearing them talk!
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happy may!!!
we are flying to bangkok on saturday :
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You know, the current video game thing is sort of like the heavy metal music thing when I was a teen. Then it was heavy metal that made people kill themselves or others, now it's video games that is the root of all evil. I wonder what it was a 100 years ago? 1,000 years ago? Someone's always complaining about something, eh? And it's usually one generation complaining about the pasttimes of the next generation
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4evermom ~ You always seem to have so much fun! I wish you could show me how to do it. I'm so bad at just playing.

UnschoolnMa ~ My 4yo gives me dandelion bouquets all the time. They are beautiful!

Bedhead ~ Is that homeschooling group a requirement of your government or is it something you chose to do?

We've been busy. We drove to Norfolk, VA, 4 1/2 hours, to see my dh and my 17yo. He shaved off all of his hair! He still looks good, though. He's been having a hard time. They had to stay on his grandfather's boat because the electricity at their house was turned off. While they were gone someone stole ds' XBox 360 and all of his games. : They think it was either his dad's ex-girlfriend or one of her friends. She swears she'd never steal from him. My dh has been trying to get him his driver's license while he's up there but one thing after another has stopped them. It's becoming quite comical. He's got one more change this Saturday and then he comes home. I sure hope they can get it done.

My mom has been visiting the past few days. She and my 4yo made pudding pops from scratch. We went to Emerald Isle beach today. It was a little chilly for me but beautiful. The water is still freezing! The baby kept trying to walk into anyway, when he wasn't eating sand. 4yo ds played laser tag for the first time last Sunday. He was invited to a friend's birthday party. I thought that was so cool because the boy is 7, 3 years older than my ds, but they still love to play with each other. I'm sure there's a ton of other stuff.
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4evermom ~ You always seem to have so much fun! I wish you could show me how to do it. I'm so bad at just playing.
The key is realizing I will get extremely frustrated if I try to accomplish the smallest thing because ds demands near constant interaction and will interrupt and purposefully thwart me. So, I rarely try to do anything except keep ds happy and put together some kind of dinner for dh on work days. And I find ds and how his mind works very interesting (I assume most parents, at least here, feel the same) which helps.

We had some major excitement, tonight! Ds knocked over his ant farm and the lid came off. Two dozen biting red Harvester Ants were dispersing themselves in our very messy living room. Dh was about to start stomping them (which would have been extremely upsetting to ds) when I remembered ds had a bug vacuum. It saved the day and the ants are safely back in their container. This is probably the third time the bug vacuum was actually used for bugs. Ds uses it more to suck up steam from the kettle or smoke from out backyard campfires.
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And I find ds and how his mind works very interesting (I assume most parents, at least here, feel the same) which helps.
I feel the same about my children. I love to watch ds do things and I love to listen to him tell me all about it. I'm just not very good at doing it with him.

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We had some major excitement, tonight! Ds knocked over his ant farm and the lid came off. Two dozen biting red Harvester Ants were dispersing themselves in our very messy living room. Dh was about to start stomping them (which would have been extremely upsetting to ds) when I remembered ds had a bug vacuum. It saved the day and the ants are safely back in their container. This is probably the third time the bug vacuum was actually used for bugs. Ds uses it more to suck up steam from the kettle or smoke from out backyard campfires.
Wow! That does sound like excitement. Are Harvester Ants like fire ants? That's what we have here and I hate them. They sting and they hurt! My ds has a bug vacuum, too. I don't think it's ever been used to suck up a bug. He uses it as a gun.
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You know, the current video game thing is sort of like the heavy metal music thing when I was a teen. Then it was heavy metal that made people kill themselves or others, now it's video games that is the root of all evil. I wonder what it was a 100 years ago? 1,000 years ago? Someone's always complaining about something, eh? And it's usually one generation complaining about the pasttimes of the next generation
good point.
I think 70 years ago it was Billie Holiday.
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And I think at one point even books were considered the evil downfall of society. Onward and upward!
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I feel the same about my children. I love to watch ds do things and I love to listen to him tell me all about it. I'm just not very good at doing it with him.
Actually, I think I just do what ds tells me when we play. He makes me redo it if I get too creative on my own. Our play is much more me following orders than anything else.



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Wow! That does sound like excitement. Are Harvester Ants like fire ants? That's what we have here and I hate them. They sting and they hurt! My ds has a bug vacuum, too. I don't think it's ever been used to suck up a bug. He uses it as a gun.
I think that is the same kind of ant. Dh got bit/stung and said it was pretty nasty. It is the kind of ant you get if you use the mail order form from the ant farm. I wouldn't suggest it for people with young kids! It's bad enough with ds at 6 1/2! I don't remember what the recommended age on the box was. I hope 8.
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Marinewife, the guy who visited is from Wisdom, which is a school board. All kids of school age have to be registered with a school board here, and the government requires that they do two home visits a year and some kind of evaluation as well.

You guys are all doing such fun stuff. Dd doesn't want to do much of anything, and just spends her days on the computer, sleeping, eating, and visiting friends. I have to get my brain out of the mode of thinking I should be getting her to DO things!!! It's so hard - I keep finding myself slipping.

At least DH has smartened up. He hasn't mentioned a thing to dd or I about the whole thing since that one night, and he seemed impressed with the facilitator
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You guys are all doing such fun stuff. Dd doesn't want to do much of anything, and just spends her days on the computer, sleeping, eating, and visiting friends.
That's what we do 99% of the time except we substitute playing with each other for playing with friends since we've been hard up for playmates. And we mix up the computer with tv and dvds for variety's sake.
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I think that is the same kind of ant. Dh got bit/stung and said it was pretty nasty. It is the kind of ant you get if you use the mail order form from the ant farm. I wouldn't suggest it for people with young kids! It's bad enough with ds at 6 1/2! I don't remember what the recommended age on the box was. I hope 8.
Why in the worl would the ant farm kit people send biting ants? There's no way I'd bring those into my home no matter how old my kids are. I'd have to find some other kind. Those things not only hurt really, really bad but they swarm and attack all at once. That could be dangerous.
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Marinewife, the guy who visited is from Wisdom, which is a school board. All kids of school age have to be registered with a school board here, and the government requires that they do two home visits a year and some kind of evaluation as well.

You guys are all doing such fun stuff. Dd doesn't want to do much of anything, and just spends her days on the computer, sleeping, eating, and visiting friends. I have to get my brain out of the mode of thinking I should be getting her to DO things!!! It's so hard - I keep finding myself slipping.

At least DH has smartened up. He hasn't mentioned a thing to dd or I about the whole thing since that one night, and he seemed impressed with the facilitator
Ah, ok. When you said it was run by homeschoolers I thought maybe it was some kind of voluntary co-op or something like that.

We do a lot of TV watching (the TV is turned on to cartoon network all the time when ds is in the house) and computer, too. If you're worried about your dd not doing anyhting, look more closely at what she's doing on the computer. She's reading, probably typing (writing, spelling, grammar). If she's playing games, she's probably doing some math, logic, problem solving, strategy as well as reading and writing. Depending on the game she may be learning some history, geography, mythology. If she's doing stuff with myspace or facebook, she's learning about design and computers and setting up webpages. I'm sure there's a ton more that others could come up with.

Listen to what she's talking to her friends about if she doesn't mind. My teenager had some very deep conversations with his friends about politics, humanity, the environment, healthy living, working and on and on. Engage in conversation with them if you can. It's so much fun. I miss those conversations with my teen and his friends.

Make a list of all the things she's doing and translate that into academics if it helps you (and your dh, too, maybe). In the meantime, try to let go of all that stuff. Forget about thinking in terms of schooly things. She is learning all kinds of things all the time just like you and I. All of it is important and valuable. I know that sounds kind of contradictory but I think it's very hard to completely let go of all that school stuff right from the get go. Seeing that she is learning may help you do that.
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Ah, ok. When you said it was run by homeschoolers I thought maybe it was some kind of voluntary co-op or something like that.

We do a lot of TV watching (the TV is turned on to cartoon network all the time when ds is in the house) and computer, too. If you're worried about your dd not doing anyhting, look more closely at what she's doing on the computer. She's reading, probably typing (writing, spelling, grammar). If she's playing games, she's probably doing some math, logic, problem solving, strategy as well as reading and writing. Depending on the game she may be learning some history, geography, mythology. If she's doing stuff with myspace or facebook, she's learning about design and computers and setting up webpages. I'm sure there's a ton more that others could come up with.

Listen to what she's talking to her friends about if she doesn't mind. My teenager had some very deep conversations with his friends about politics, humanity, the environment, healthy living, working and on and on. Engage in conversation with them if you can. It's so much fun. I miss those conversations with my teen and his friends.

Make a list of all the things she's doing and translate that into academics if it helps you (and your dh, too, maybe). In the meantime, try to let go of all that stuff. Forget about thinking in terms of schooly things. She is learning all kinds of things all the time just like you and I. All of it is important and valuable. I know that sounds kind of contradictory but I think it's very hard to completely let go of all that school stuff right from the get go. Seeing that she is learning may help you do that.
Nope, Wisdom is a school board set up by homeschoolers. It's pretty cool.

Thanks for the reminder about what she's actually doing. I do know all that stuff, but it's so hard to let go of the notions I've had all my life about school!!!! Especially when I have a 16 yo in grade 11 that I have to still hound to do his homework. Switching modes isn't easy. But I'm so glad dd is doing this. I just have to learn to trust her and let her do it.
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BH, it sounds like your facilitator's a pretty awesome guy. Yay!

I forgot that yesterday was our unschooling group's weekly get together day. The admin of the group's yahoo group hasn't added me yet, so I have to actively call a friend in the group to ask for details about where we'll be hanging out, instead of just having the info/reminder emailed to me, so I forgot. Oops.

So it's been a pretty laid back week for us here. We've mostly just been hanging out around home, and I've been trying to make some headway on cleaning DS1's room.

DS1 has done his part to educate me in natural history this week though. He likes to sit around and talk with me about what different animals eat: a couple days ago we were having one of those conversations. "Rabbits eat grass"; "And foxes eat chickens"; and so on, both of us coming up with animals and volunteering suggestions of what they eat. So on we went with this for a while, and we got to owls. "And owls eat kittens" (not to be gross -- but they do! as attested to my farm-boy husband); "And owls eat mice..."; and my DS1 chimed in: "Owls eat pizza!"
"They do?", I asked. He nodded and affirmed, "Owls eat pizza. " (thinking it a great joke.) "OK," I smiled and agreed, "Owls eat pizza." Who knew?
post #19 of 91
Ds and I went out to the store and to watch "Iron Man" today. It was FREAKING AWESOME. I can't believe how well Robert Downey has aged. He looks downright yummy. When I told Ds I used to watch him in stuff back in the day he was surprised. He says he'll have to go look for his stuff.

I am so tired!
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Ds and I went out to the store and to watch "Iron Man" today. It was FREAKING AWESOME. I can't believe how well Robert Downey has aged. He looks downright yummy. When I told Ds I used to watch him in stuff back in the day he was surprised. He says he'll have to go look for his stuff.

I am so tired!
DH took the kids to see this tonight while I browsed the used bookstore. They loved it, Nic is so excited. He had to come home immediately and play Ultimate Avengers and be Iron Man on the wii. He's getting so into superheroes, never really has been before. Pretty cool stuff.
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