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post #21 of 27
There is no need for the foreskin opening to line up with the urethral meatus. In a small child, the foreskin tip will act as the urethral meatus and in an adolescent or adult, they pull the foreskin back slightly to expose the tip of the glans and urethral meatus so that alignment simply doesn't matter. The only thing that may come up as a result of a mis-alignment is a tendency to spray. With retraction at the normal time, this will cease to happen.

It really sounds like this doctor was looking for an excuse to circumcise your son. With that opinion, make the decision you feel is necessary for the safety of your son.



Frank
post #22 of 27
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OP here...

I've examined his foreskin to see if it looks malformed and, honestly, I don't see anything wrong. I mean, he is only 4 DAYS old!!!

It does seem like the doc was talking about hypospadias, actually. But she (or the other doc she works with) didn't tell me anything about it. The doc did ask if ds pees in a straight stream or not. I don't know yet.

All she sounded like to me and my DH was "something could be wrong with your son's penis but we can't really tell and might not be able to tell for another two years or so." So, then why even bring it up? I'm so confused.

And she used the term "pre-circumcision" in this context..."Sometimes you see things with pre-circumsized penises that..." I just thought that was strange, she could have said "un-circumsized" if she didn't want to say "intact."

I, honestly, don't feel there is anything wrong. This doc sent out huge red flags about other issues as well, so I'm not taking her practice too seriously. But if it does turn out to be hypospadias, I'm glad to know that circ. is contraindicated and it's not considered a reason to circ.

I'm paying out of pocket to get it checked out by Dr. Paul Fleiss just to be sure, though.
post #23 of 27
I don't think she was referring to hypospadias at all, I think she just doesn't know much about intact penises, like a lot of peds, unfortunately.

I think she was using the term "pre-circumcision" because she assumes that all babies are going to be circumcised eventually...
post #24 of 27
Here are some pictures of hypo you can clearly see there is a issue even on the least affected.


Hypospadias drawing: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...l%3Den%26lr%3D

Hypospadias pictures with chordee at the bottom & surgery Warning graphic pictures: http://www.emedicine.com/PED/topic1136.htm

Hypospadias from mild to severe: http://www.medscape.com/content/2004...89956.fig4.jpg


Hypospadias drawing of were all the urinary opnings can be: http://www.hypospadias-emotions.com/images2/hyposp6.jpg

Normal foreskin on the left: http://www.cirp.org/library/hygiene/...e1/figure3.jpg (the one on the right is being partially retracted :


Hope that helps you see the difference between a hypo and normal penis.
post #25 of 27
First of all, Congratulations on your new baby!

second, may I just say, I REALLY DISLIKE THE TERM "pre-circumcised".

If your ds has wet diapers then there is no need to worry. She is looking for an excuse to circ your ds.

Even if she is "gently pulling back the foreskin (oh no its not retraction)" she will NOT see a pee hole.

My ds's foreskin opens to pee then contracts when he is done. I've seen this.

Your ds's foreskin will look shut. There is no way, unless she ripped the foreskin back off the glans ouch!, that she could ever find the meatus. Its just not possible. Either she is dangerously ignorant or she's playing you for a fool. The latter is what a con artist will do to her victims.

Enjoy your WHOLE baby mama! Have a wonderful babymoon.
post #26 of 27
exactly what frank said. there is no reason the foreskin needs to to line up with the meatus "pee hole" . Heck some intact men with long foreskins can have theire meatus pointing up and the opening of their foreskin pointing down and could pee just fine. that doctor obviously has zero education about foreskins. Imagine the urethra as a fire hose, and the foreskin being a sort of aimable nozzle, like on a fire truck. There is no need for the two holes to line up because the nozzle redirects the stream of the fire hose just as the foreskin does for the urethra.
post #27 of 27
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Originally Posted by MCatLvrMom2A&X View Post
Here are some pictures of hypo you can clearly see there is a issue even on the least affected.


Hypospadias drawing: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...l%3Den%26lr%3D

Hypospadias pictures with chordee at the bottom & surgery Warning graphic pictures: http://www.emedicine.com/PED/topic1136.htm

Hypospadias from mild to severe: http://www.medscape.com/content/2004...89956.fig4.jpg


Hypospadias drawing of were all the urinary opnings can be: http://www.hypospadias-emotions.com/images2/hyposp6.jpg

Normal foreskin on the left: http://www.cirp.org/library/hygiene/...e1/figure3.jpg (the one on the right is being partially retracted :


Hope that helps you see the difference between a hypo and normal penis.
Notice how much hypospadias looks like female genitals?
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