Originally Posted by Bm31
Until the pro-circ fathers who thrust their sons forward to be mutilated understand and accept this, they will continue to do it.
I know one guy too that is 25 now and chose to get it done when he was 15. He didn't have any problems but was afraid of "fitting in." He now regrets it. Cosmetically, he ended up with a glans that is strangely twisted to the right and after ten years KNOWS he has lost sensation...Do I think he is representative of all guys who have it done when they are older? I have no idea and it really doesn't matter. For him and others that CHOSE to do it later, you have to realize there is a great mental
benefit that comes with them making the choice themselves. Plus, as I've said, most of them haven't had 10, 20, 30, 40 years of the effects of the circ set in yet like someone done as an infant will have. They may think all is good....but get back to me in 20 years is all I would say. I know at your age you can't fathom wanting a sex life at 40, but trust me....you will.
Yes, its true, until pro-circ fathers AND pro-circ mothers fully understand the risks, and alterations they are making, parents will continue to do it. I agree with you there.
But you also make a point that supports mine, guys will have different feelings toward circ. Its good for some guys and not for others, its a personal decision. Its not surprising that a guy who got cut because he wanted to "fit in" regretted it later. But as you said, (which is the core to all my beliefs around this issue) True, pure choice is what makes the difference.
Where I disagree with you, is when "others" in our society think they have a better understanding of what a male is going to want for their penis, then what the actual owner of that penis does. When you say, many circ guys will be singing a different tune when they are older, is the same thing like mothers who say "o, his wife will thank me that I had him circumcised."
I actually know three men in their 50's with very active, functional sex lives. One being my father, another being my ex-girlfriends Dad, and my other friend's Dad. (He is single again, and we actually walked in on him with someone by mistake. Horrible moment, but trust me, he was having a good time)
I will want a sex life after 40, I know that, lol and I believe if I restore, or not, thats fully possible. But making judgments on how other mens penises should be, is what started circumcision in this country, and I dont care if you disagree with me or not, but your opinion is corruptive to this cause.
I dont say this to be mean, but to instill the point that all of this will not be resolved just when we stop circumcisions in this country. But when we get rid of the idea that male body is something meant for outside forces to impose their beliefs on. There is no "winning" argument here, only that everyone has a right to their own bodies, and be able to do what they want with it, without the threat of ridicule from others groups who feel they have a "better" idea.