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post #21 of 40
5/8/08 at 12:51am
My MIL calls my pumped milk "formula." I'm not sure if it's because she can't bring herself to use the word "breastmilk" or if she's just so used to saying formula she forgets. I think it's kind of funny, though.

My 3yo is careful to distinguish between all the different kinds of milk there are in this house. There's "mommy's milk," which is for Simon. Then there's "milk from a cow," which he drinks. Then there's "daddy's milk" which is the lactose-free cow's milk my husband drinks. Corbin refuses to drink daddy's milk. "Noooo! Milk from a COW!"
post #22 of 40
5/8/08 at 1:29am
I don't think I've ever heard it referred to as "milk"... everyone I know calls it formula, including my grandmother. It wouldn't bother me, but I guarantee that I wouldn't know what someone was referring to formula unless the context made it clear, and I'd still be a bit confused. I can't see calling it milk. "Milk product" maybe. But around here we don't really call anything "milk" - everything is prefaced: breastmilk, cow's milk, goat's milk, soy milk, rice milk, etc.

And now the word "milk" seems weird to me because I typed it too much. It's not even a word anymore!
post #23 of 40
5/8/08 at 1:49am
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I guess I'm bothered by formula being "milk" because it's NOT always cow's milk based (soy formula, for instance) -
but "soy milk" is a common term, and i'm betting that in many houses where its the only milk served they just call it milk...?

My foster baby is on formula, and while i usually use "formula" (as in "i have to make up some more formula" or "there's a bottle of formula in the fridge"), when i'm talking to the baby (he's almost four months), i usually say "milk" or "milkies".

The main ingrediant in most formulas (if its not soy) is cow's milk.


Katherine
post #24 of 40
5/8/08 at 1:51am
before i read anyfurther

post #25 of 40
5/8/08 at 12:10pm
I don't have an issue with it; it is made from cow's milk. But I always call it formula!
post #26 of 40
5/9/08 at 12:23pm
It does irritate me a bit, but not so much that I'm going to get all upset about it.

When BIL's girlfriend had a baby, we went to see them in the hospital. There was a bottle of formula on the table in the room, even though she had JUST told us they were breastfeeding. My husband asked "is this milk?" (meaning have you already pumped so much breastmilk!". They responded that it was. I saw the lable and said, "Oh it's formula" to which they replied - "yes, milk for the baby because he was getting hungry". Whatever.

(The good news is that with lots of help from me they did nurse for almost a year, even while continuing to supplement with formula).
post #27 of 40
5/9/08 at 11:45pm
Everyone in my area revfers to formula as "milk" or "baby milk".
ugh.
It drives me up the dang wall!
I make a point to always say formula.
I make milk - not Ross Labs

of course I am practically the lone BFer in these parts - So i am pretty sensitive to holding human milk as the standard for babies.
post #28 of 40
5/9/08 at 11:50pm
we call ds's pediasure milk, because theres no sign for it or formula, and its just easier on him to understaand and communicate.
post #29 of 40
5/11/08 at 1:11am
When we see babies with a bottle, I tell her that the baby is getting its milkies. I want her to learn that babies get milk(she does not remember nursing, and has seen more babies with bottles than nursing - hopefully that will change in a couple months, but based on the issues I had with her, I don't know), and will later teach her the difference between breastmilk and formula.
post #30 of 40
5/12/08 at 3:43am
Thread Starter 
I don't want to put down formula -- because it is useful in some instances -- but at the same time, I don't want to *equate* it with milk because it is NOT equal. KWIM?
post #31 of 40
5/12/08 at 7:02pm
It kind of bothers me because it seems like people are trying to be sneaky by calling it milk. Even though it's made from cow's milk, "milk" isn't the normal term for baby formula where I live. I actually never thought people called it milk until I came to this thread.

Milk to me means breastmilk. I rarely call mine milk & prefer "breastmilk" or "milks" that sounds more like "Meeeeeeeeelks!!!" but that's just me being weird.
post #32 of 40
5/12/08 at 7:06pm
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Originally Posted by MilkTrance View Post
I don't want to put down formula -- because it is useful in some instances -- but at the same time, I don't want to *equate* it with milk because it is NOT equal. KWIM?
post #33 of 40
5/12/08 at 7:30pm
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Originally Posted by Teyu View Post
It kind of bothers me because it seems like people are trying to be sneaky by calling it milk. Even though it's made from cow's milk, "milk" isn't the normal term for baby formula where I live. I actually never thought people called it milk until I came to this thread.

Milk to me means breastmilk. I rarely call mine milk & prefer "breastmilk" or "milks" that sounds more like "Meeeeeeeeelks!!!" but that's just me being weird.
see, to me, i just dont equate milk with my breastmilk, that num nums.
post #34 of 40
5/12/08 at 9:24pm
it doesn't bother me for some reason, besides, it is still milk - just processed.
post #35 of 40
5/12/08 at 9:39pm
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Originally Posted by robertandenith View Post
it doesn't bother me for some reason, besides, it is still milk - just processed.
I don't agree, especially when the first or second ingredient is corn syrup solids.

Milk is made by mammals, not "processed" and made by man. I think this is where the formula companies cross the line. They want mothers to believe it is "milk". Formula is excellent when necessary, but not comparable to milk. IMHO
post #36 of 40
5/12/08 at 10:48pm
Infant formulas do not have corn syrup, those are the "next step" ones.

I don't see what the big deal is. It's a form of milk.
post #37 of 40
5/12/08 at 11:07pm
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Originally Posted by FREEmom1120 View Post
Infant formulas do not have corn syrup, those are the "next step" ones.

I don't see what the big deal is. It's a form of milk.
Interesting...

Both milk based, neither "next step".
Enfamil Gentlease infant formula...scroll down to ingredients and composition.

Straight from the makers of enfamil's page...MeadJohnson
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Composition

Ingredients: Corn syrup solids, partially hydrolyzed nonfat milk and whey protein concentrate solids (soy), vegetable oil (palm olein, soy, coconut, and high oleic sunflower oils), and less than 2%: Mortierella alpina oil,# Crypthecodinium cohnii oil,** vitamin A palmitate, vitamin D3, vitamin E acetate, vitamin K1, thiamin hydrochloride, riboflavin, vitamin B6 hydrochloride, vitamin B12, niacinamide, folic acid, calcium pantothenate, biotin, ascorbic acid, choline chloride, inositol, calcium carbonate, calcium phosphate, magnesium phosphate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, manganese sulfate, cupric sulfate, sodium hydroxide, potassium hydroxide, potassium chloride, sodium selenite, taurine, L-carnitine.
Similac Sensitive infant formula (milk based)

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Ingredients
Corn Syrup Solids, Sugar (sucrose), Milk Protein Isolate, High Oleic Safflower Oil, Coconut Oil, Soy Oil (less than 2% of:C.Cohni oil*,M.Alpinaoil), Calcium Phosphate, Potassium Citrate, Potassium Chloride, Sodium Citrate, Magnesium Phosphate, Ascorbic Acid, Calcium Carbonate, Choline Chloride, Ferrous Sulfate, Magnesium Chloride, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Choline Bitartrate, Taurine, M Inositol, D Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate, Zinc Sulfate, Mixed Tocopherols, L Carnitine, Niacinamide, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Palmitate, Cupric Sulfate, Thiamine Chloride Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Beta Carotene, Folic Acid, Manganese Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Phylloquinone, Biotin, Sodium Selenate, Vitamin D3, Cyanocobalamin, Potassium Hydroxide, Nucleotides (Adenosine 5'-Monophosphate, Cytidine 5'-Monophosphate, Disodium Guanosine 5'-Monophosphate, Disodium Uridine 5'-Monophosphate
post #38 of 40
5/12/08 at 11:55pm
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Originally Posted by Cutie Patootie View Post
Interesting...

Both milk based, neither "next step".
Enfamil Gentlease infant formula...scroll down to ingredients and composition.

Straight from the makers of enfamil's page...MeadJohnson


Similac Sensitive infant formula (milk based)
Yes but the normal non special needs formula according to the link you provided show nonfat milk as first indgredient.Enfamil Lipil (this is the one with DHA etc) is proably more common and used among people who formula feed than the two that you listed as examples.
post #39 of 40
5/13/08 at 12:27am
Formula it's just a type of milk, like SOY milk, GOAT milk, BREAST milk, ALMOND milk.

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Originally Posted by veganf View Post
Nope. Doesn't bother me at all. By definition "milk" can be anything that resembles mammal milk....

from Dictionary.com:
–noun
1.an opaque white or bluish-white liquid secreted by the mammary glands of female mammals, serving for the nourishment of their young.
2.this liquid as secreted by cows, goats, or certain other animals and used by humans for food or as a source of butter, cheeses, yogurt, etc.
3.any liquid resembling this, as the liquid within a coconut, the juice or sap of certain plants, or various pharmaceutical preparations.
it's just the term.
post #40 of 40
5/13/08 at 1:29am
FYI, about corn syrup in formula..."regular" formula, at least the brands that i give to my fson, do not have corn syrup, i'm looking at a can of both Enfamil Lipil and Similac w/ Iron right now. But the other types, soy, sensitive, etc, apparently do....

It freaks me right out that the main ingrediant in a baby formula could be corn syrup.


Katherine
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