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post #1 of 15
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I'm so flippn angry about this!

Add this to the "Methods of Circs" list. Its truly discussing. :

Notice the comments: they glorify over the newborns exposed glans. Its SICK!

I cant' figure out if the men who say, "I'm going to circ my ds and watch you can't do a thing about it, HA!" are saying it because they feel they're backed in a corner.

WARNING ITS GRAPHIC!
post #2 of 15
I'm afraid to watch it. Do they show the whole procedure?
post #3 of 15
that's just horrible! yes they do show the whole procedure and you can tell the real audio is not there and the kid might be older and he is crying. I responded to a few and to that one last post. Oh gosh, I am turning into a big time intactivist here by just looking at all these horrible videos, this is just barbaric!
post #4 of 15
Please, warning notice!
I actually got to the part where they did the clamping part.
That is what they did to DH january 3rd, 1981. We've figured it out from the placement of the scar, the fact that he has stitch marks, etc... from still pictures from a women's mag article from the same year.
I think I'm gonna puke.
post #5 of 15
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Originally Posted by thixle View Post
Please, warning notice!
I actually got to the part where they did the clamping part.
That is what they did to DH january 3rd, 1981. We've figured it out from the placement of the scar, the fact that he has stitch marks, etc... from still pictures from a women's mag article from the same year.
I think I'm gonna puke.
I'm terribly sorry for what your dh went through.



I added a warning. sorry about that.
post #6 of 15
wow. I cant believe that video. Was that done in the US?

Yeah, many in the US think circ is a needed surgery, but all surgeries done in the US have standards your legally allowed to perform them by. That guy was was not even cutting, he was just scrapping the foreskin off the side of that tool.

If a doctor did something like that with another surgery, (say scrapping open holes during heart surgery) they would be fired on the spot. I just cant imagine this was done in the US. If it was, my god even the pro-circers should be out there protesting to at least improve the standards of this surgery!
post #7 of 15
Wow, that is the first Circ I've ever seen. (Never even thought for a moment about circing DS, so no need to watch videos)

I am sorry, but I honestly feel that anyone who can put a baby boy through that OR be a party to it, well, I won't say what I think in mixed company, but I know that that this does not escape the eyes of God.

It really affects how I feel about the medical system in general. I would not even want to be in the same hospital as a hospital who would permit that, or go to a doctor who has ever done that. A doctor who circs is no doctor at all, IMO. Maybe they are a medical professional, but they are in no way a healer! :cry:
post #8 of 15
I am ashamed to admit I live in a culture that could condone something like this!
I couldn't even watch the video! The descriptions are bad enough!
I don't understand how a DOCTOR sworn to do no harm can perform a "surgery" that's not medically recomended, and what kind of sadistic f$%^, could do THIS to a child!!
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by perspective View Post
wow. I cant believe that video. Was that done in the US?

Yeah, many in the US think circ is a needed surgery, but all surgeries done in the US have standards your legally allowed to perform them by. That guy was was not even cutting, he was just scrapping the foreskin off the side of that tool.

If a doctor did something like that with another surgery, (say scrapping open holes during heart surgery) they would be fired on the spot. I just cant imagine this was done in the US. If it was, my god even the pro-circers should be out there protesting to at least improve the standards of this surgery!
I can assure you, it is and was done in the US, and was one of the main methods used before the plastibell became popular (Plastibell is/was touted as a "no cut" circ and much more humane ...
And scraping along the clamp is pretty common as well, with any flat clamping methods: freehand, mogen, etc.
Also, the freehand method was the one most used BEFORE they started asking parental permission. To this day, DH and I don't know if his mother even consented.

Freehand circs are responsible for the "high and tight" cut, so favored by circum-fetishists because it removes more skin than other techniques. Which also results in more complications for the grown man-- often, so much skin is removed that there is absolutely no "excess" skin even flacid.
We aren't sure if Dh had a frenulectomy at the same time, or if over the years the growth of the penis stretched and snapped the frenulum.

Here is that women's magazine article i was talking about:
WARNING: GRAPHIC STILL PHOTOS http://www.circumcisionquotes.com/magcirc.html

Anyway, you'll all be happy to know that even though DH (and yep, I have his permission to talk about it here) had 50-90% of the skin on his penis removed withthis method... manual tugging has helped him regain some of that skin. Instead of having a scarline that is about half-way up the shaft, there is actually a little wrinkle of skin right behind the glans! Erection is no longer uncomfortable for him, and sex is more pleasurable for both of us.
I guess what I'm saying is-- even with that much skin removed, it is still very possible to regain some normal functioning.

ETA: CircInfo says in the 1980's, the popularity of methods went: 1)Freehand 2)Gomco 3) Plastibell 4)Mogen
So, basically, any victim of RIC born before say... 1985 most likely had a freehand circ.
post #10 of 15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=PtzfeVNpLDc

This is very graphic, too. I don't think they left ANY skin!
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by Nathan1097 View Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=PtzfeVNpLDc

This is very graphic, too. I don't think they left ANY skin!
I have no problem with that last video (as horrible it is too look at). Because that is an adult who decided to go through that himself. There are people go through scarification, where they take hot metal rods, burning the flesh to make a design. Or people who pierce hooks through their backs, and hang from them, or people who get tattoos the old fashion way with small needles that have to be tapped into the skin, sometimes thousands of times, and not at a very quick rate.

Adults should be able to do whatever they want with their bodies, body-modification is a very powerful thing, and can mean a lot to people. I fully support and understand this, but ONLY when its being done on themselves, and only when that person is an adult.
post #12 of 15
Right, but did this person know WHAT kind of circ he was getting?
post #13 of 15
Those videos were disgusting. It looks like the circs were done by an Arab doctor. So, I doubt it's the US.
post #14 of 15
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Those videos were disgusting. It looks like the circs were done by an Arab doctor. So, I doubt it's the US.
I don't think he is a Medical Doctor. It says he is a professor. Professors can be doctors but they'd use their MD title if it were so. This guy didn't use an MD title.
post #15 of 15
He is either in Australia (general surgeon) or in UAE (United Arab Emerites).
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