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post #121 of 531
By the way--on docking and cropping: The time to dock tails is from birth to about three days. So that ship has sailed, and did a long time ago. Ears would be foolish to do; neither breed involved has cropped ears and they'd look very silly with them. It may or may not be legitimate for new owners to remove dewclaws whenever some other major surgery is being done; again, the time you remove them on puppies is birth to three days, so you'd never do them now unless the dog was already under for something else and then only if the dews were actually a danger to the dog (the type that are barely connected and could rip).

I am vehemently anti-cropping; I refused to do it on my Danes, which are a cropped breed. I would definitely prefer not to dock tails, because I think it gives the dog a speech impediment (so many signals are given with tails) but I think it involves far less pain than the ears do and so I'm not downright nauseated by it the way I am with ears. Dews I can really go either way; I didn't remove them (front dews) on the Dane puppies, but I will probably do them on the corgis because the standard calls for it in the Cardigans.
post #122 of 531
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Dews I can really go either way; I didn't remove them (front dews) on the Dane puppies, but I will probably do them on the corgis because the standard calls for it in the Cardigans.
We removed Miles' front dewclaws at the time of his neutering. I'm sorry that I did either of those procedures, but I was not educated at the time. His dews were not loose or really in danger, but I was afraid that he might rip them off while running in the woods or whatever. Unfortunately, I believe removing them has hindered his ability to grip while turning sharply--something he needs to do in agility. He slipped last weekend during a trial and it caused us to lose a Q (by .33 seconds--ack) and I wonder if he wouldn't have slipped if he had those dews

ETA: OP, your puppies are beautiful! If we weren't already expecting our new Golden pup in a few months, I may have been swayed.....
post #123 of 531
I talked to my sil, and she isn't interested. They are looking for a puppy, but she told me my niece was attacked by a Jack Russell once, and so she wants to stay far away from that breed.

She said she's heard they need a lot of socialization, right from birth -- since these pups are in the barn, is this going to be an issue we'll have to deal with? I'm not changing my mind at all, just want to be prepared...
post #124 of 531
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I talked to my sil, and she isn't interested. They are looking for a puppy, but she told me my niece was attacked by a Jack Russell once, and so she wants to stay far away from that breed.

She said she's heard they need a lot of socialization, right from birth -- since these pups are in the barn, is this going to be an issue we'll have to deal with? I'm not changing my mind at all, just want to be prepared...
I guess its good to be concerned, but just because she met one that was not friendly it does not mean they all are. All the jacks I have met (save one) are way awesome with kids. In the horse world EVERYONE either has a jack or a corgi. I have only seen aggression when they are guarding thier truck, and some with cats.

These puppies sound like they are getting a good deal of handling, its up to you to continue the good work MCatLvrMom2A&X has been doing. Im also thinking they will be well on thier way to being housebroke. They will probably follow thier moms lead at going outside when you need to use the washroom.
post #125 of 531
Oh, I know! But she seems to have a prejudice against the breed, so it's probably better that she stays away, kwim? They haven't had a lot of success with dogs in the past (had to return their last dog b/c it was poorly socialized and the poor thing was terrified of my niece and nephew, neither of whom are boisterous or in-your-face). She has done a lot of research since then, though, and now feels confident in knowing what to look for wrt to the right dog for their family.

Just for fun, I did the "find the right dog for you" quiz at Eukanuba. com. It returned the result that the Parson Russell terrier is the best fit for our family.

A question, though -- dogbreedinfo.com (don't know if that's a great site or not, just the first one google returned) says that both JRT and doxies are diggers. So... will that tendency be stronger or lesser in a mix of the two? Our dog won't spend much time outside unsupervised, but I would hate for it to be able to dig under the fence...

What other things are we going to have to watch for, temperment-wise? Is there a good site to check out? Recommended reading?

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I just spoke to my mil, who is so excited for us! They have two long-haired doxies, and she told me that her vet (here in town) who she loves, raises Jack Russells. So between the two of them, hopefully we'll be covered, lol.
post #126 of 531
Oh, and we have four kids and fully intend for this puppy to be a full member of our family, so I don't think a lot of handling is going to be a problem, lol.
post #127 of 531
Digging:

All dogs are instinctive diggers. Digging, barking, and chewing are the great self-comforters that dogs do when they are bored or worried. I've never seen a dog that never dug, and in the Dane world there is a famous story of a breeder's pack of four Danes that dug and dug and dug and had a great time making what she thought was a nice cool pit in the yard. She could see them kind of go under to go into it, but didn't think much of it.

Then one day she had a contractor bring a Bobcat on the property to repair some walls. The Bobcat drove in, went into the back--and DISAPPEARED.

Turns out that the dogs had built a MASSIVE underground room that took up half the back area, and when something heavy enough rolled over it, the "roof" caved in and the whole thing went down about three feet.

Moral of the story: All dogs dig. You're not likely to ever have an underground room, but you may certainly have some nice pits, especially where the dog can get down to cool damp ground or where it thinks a mouse or rabbit might be. One very good dog trainer told me that the best way to prevent a dog from destroying the yard was to make one area acceptable digging, in fact inviting digging, by making it sandy and interesting and running the hose over there every once in a while. You can help by burying some toys or treats in that area. That way the dog knows that digging Disney World is in area x, and hopefully doesn't go everywhere in the yard.

The only other thing that would be a unique challenge to this "build" of dog (we discovered this when we got corgis) is that they can go under shockingly small things. We had to lay chicken wire at the base of all the fencing and attach it to the bottom wire (so now our fence makes an L, with the tall fencing and then two feet of chicken wire). We threw about an inch of dirt over it so the grass would grow, and that has prevented the breakouts.
post #128 of 531
That story totally reminds me of the book The Digginest Dog
post #129 of 531
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That story totally reminds me of the book The Digginest Dog
OMG!! That was my *favorite* book when I was a kid
post #130 of 531
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I talked to my sil, and she isn't interested. They are looking for a puppy, but she told me my niece was attacked by a Jack Russell once, and so she wants to stay far away from that breed.

She said she's heard they need a lot of socialization, right from birth -- since these pups are in the barn, is this going to be an issue we'll have to deal with? I'm not changing my mind at all, just want to be prepared...
I am sorry your niece was attacked that really is horrible.

The puppies are handled every day by my brother and then by me on every other day I go down. My dd has been petting them, but not holding them yet she is 7yo and ds has to give every single one a kiss on the head he is 3yo. As they get older I will be letting my kids play with them more and more. Jill always leaves the barn to use the bathroom so they may learn that from her.

On the digging Jill is definatly a digger she actually hurt some of her teeth trying to dig under wood after a rat

A road trip sounds fun Bunny Just let me know what you decide.
post #131 of 531
That dane story is hilarious! A den of great danes is something I'd like to see.

My dog does not dig. She really doesn't. Ive even tried to teach her. She is a mutt of the working/herding variety. Came from a mennonite farm.
post #132 of 531
I just got off the phone with NorthWest Airlines (FTR I was on hold less than a minute )

They can do either Great Falls or Calgary. The pooch would have to change planes in Minneapolis/St. Paul and b/c the layover to either place is more than 4 hours he would need to be kennelled for the interim. While in the kennel area the pup would be let out to be exercised/played with, fed and watered and the kennel cleaned if necessary. Which sounds good, but at the same time I wouldn't want to get to the airport to pick up my puppy and find someone else's angry siamese in the kennel. (Obv. I'm joking, but I'm also sure mistakes do happen...)

Anyways...

The cost to Great Falls is $170 + $50 kennel fee. Flight leaves Knoxville @ 8:40am, arrives MSP at 10:18am. Departs MSP at 9:15pm, arrives Great Falls 10:45pm.

To Calgary is $185 + $50 kennel fee. Flight still leaves Knoxville at 8:40am, but then leaves MSP at 5:10pm and pup would arrive in Calgary at 7:02pm.

So, very nearly the same price! She gave me some info about customs stuff, etc. but you would probably want to phone them yourself and get the info. The number is 1-800-692-2746, website is: nwa.com shipping site.

I don't know which is better for the pup -- a longer layover to Great Falls, followed by a night at a pet-friendly hotel getting to know dh and I before we bring him home to the madness of our four kids (mil has already said she would keep the kids overnight for us, she's almost as excited as we are that we're getting a dog ) or the shorter layover, but followed almost immediately by a 3 hour car ride. Since the price difference is only $15, dh and I could really do either way. Although I like the idea of an overnight in MT...

Joanna? What would you suggest? What would be better for the puppy?
post #133 of 531
I am so thrilled that it's happening! I think that either way is fine. The puppy will have a big, big day regardless, and as long as you're making sure he or she gets some potty breaks I think it would depend on which way works better for you guys.

Sounds like NW is quoting a much lower price than Delta--good to know.
post #134 of 531
Oh, Joanna, me too! Dh and I are not going to tell the kids until much closer to the time... but I don't know how I'm going to get through the next six weeks or so!

MCat, I think we are leaning towards Great Falls rather than Calgary. It's more of a getaway for us that way, as we would likely come home the same night from Calgary. If we go to GF, we can drop the kids off at my in-laws -- it's on the way. If we do Calgary we add more than an hour onto our travel time, as we end up kind of backtracking a bunch from the in-laws place.

Actually, as for telling the kids... They think that a dog is still a long ways down the road. I would LOVE for this to be a surprise for them, but is that just going to create mass chaos? Would it be better to tell them "you are going to grandma and grandpa's because we are bringing home a dog tomorrow"? Or could we just let them think we are going away for our anniversary (which IS in July) and then come back the next day with our furry friend? Is that just asking for trouble? I know the excitement level is going to be wicked high either way...

I know I am totally babbling, but I am just so excited about this all. I'm so happy that we will be able to give one of these dogs a home.
post #135 of 531
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Who wants to see more pictures

To cute

Close ups

Close Ups

Either way is fine with me. I think would be easier on my end to send to MT instead since I wont have to deal with the customs stuff going to canada.

I admit I am nervous about this since I have never done anything like it. I do ship fish via USPS but this is a lot different. I ment to call my vet. and ask her if she had the right forms but got upset about my vaccum breaking and forgot it :

Surly it isnt that hard to schedual a flight is it
post #136 of 531
NWA does look cheaper. I think to us in Va it would be about $150 compared to over $200 for Delta.
post #137 of 531
MT it is, then! There will still be papers and stuff you have to send w/ the puppy but your vet can help you out with those. One big difference is that to come into Canada the vet cert. must be issued no longer than 72 hours before the dog is to enter the country (shipping w/in the US it can be up to 10 days).

If you call the 1-800 number I posted they will totally talk you through everything you need to do. The woman I talked to was so helpful, and offered information I didn't even think to ask. I will definitely call back just before the big day, to make sure everything is in place on my end.

I don't think scheduling the flight should be that hard, and again the 1-800 # will be able to tell you exactly what you need to do. There is a recording that you listen to first (before you enter the caller queue) and I think it said they need 24 hours to 10 days notice. Oh, they also won't ship if it's going to be hotter than 85F at any point along the route (so if it was forecast to be 75 in MT, but 90 in St. Paul, they wouldn't allow the pup to fly, as I understand it).

Hey, are you calling them by the names you have listed under the pictures? Dh and I are already fighting over what to name our pup but I don't want to confuse a dog by trying to give it a new name... do they recognize their names already by 8-9 weeks?
post #138 of 531
No, puppies don't remember their baby names. So rename away.
post #139 of 531
Dh and I are trying to figure out what we are going to call ours, too. We probably won't decide on anything until we see him in person.
post #140 of 531
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The names I have posted are just to make it easier on me to talk to brother about and he has named a few. So far I just call them sweety when I pick them up
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