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post #101 of 257
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Originally Posted by Baby Makes 4 View Post
For Mothers' Day my husband and older son are out in the yard digging up 70 square feet of flower beds and shrubs so we can get a vegetable garden in this year. It's gone from a potential hobby to a real necessity!
good for you! I wish you the best in yer gardening efforts! lots of big fat veggies to last you though the winter.
post #102 of 257
This sounds like a great idea to me... except we never get many vegetables from our gardens. I don't know what we've done wrong, maybe we're just terrible gardeners. We spend a lot of money and time on cultivating plants and get very little return.
post #103 of 257
Me too! I spend so much money trying to make the things grown and they never grow! I could have bought a lot of veggies for what I spendon them!
post #104 of 257
the last place i lived at had a lot of walnut trees. i could never get anything to grow there and it always tasted terrible. so glad i moved to a place with no walnut trees.
post #105 of 257
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Originally Posted by spughy View Post
Is anyone else a little suspicious that maybe grocery stores are hiking prices more than they strictly need to, because people are expecting food prices to rise... not quite a self-fulfilling prophecy, but close...
I doubt it. There are grain and rice shortages and gas prices are through the roof. There have been many types of fruit and vegetable crops that have been severely damaged due to unusual weather in various regions.
Grocers are charging according to what they are paying I would imagine.

DH delivers Juice for a major juice company...the other day one of the receivers at a Major Grocery store told DH that all of the receivers are getting their hours cut because the stores are trying to find any way that they can to keep prices low.

I am not the type to get all worked up anmd think the sky is falling.
But I am VERY CONCERNED about what is going to happen to the cost of food over the next 2 years.


I will be re learning how to grow my own foods and I will be canning everything that I can get a good deal on. You can preserve meat and beans and soups along with veggies, fruits, jams etc

We are using part of our stimulus payment to buy soil and veggie starts, as well as second hand canning supplies. We are also going to start stockpiling grains. We will buy a little extra (in bulk) each grocery trip to put away.


I cannot imagine not being able to provide food for my children.


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post #106 of 257
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Originally Posted by majazama View Post
good for you! I wish you the best in yer gardening efforts! lots of big fat veggies to last you though the winter.
Thank you!

The small bed (8'x4') got finished today. We dug compost and lime in and planted 3 blueberry bushes and 15 strawberry plants. It looks a bit bare but once it gets established we will have lots of berries coming out of there.

The vegetable garden needs another weekend or two of work before we can plant it.

I'm actually a very good gardener so I expect a good yield. The last 10 years I have lived in places without a yard so I've only been able to do containers.
post #107 of 257
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Originally Posted by spiderdust View Post
This sounds like a great idea to me... except we never get many vegetables from our gardens. I don't know what we've done wrong, maybe we're just terrible gardeners. We spend a lot of money and time on cultivating plants and get very little return.
You know, I've had really bad gardens in the past, but every year you learn something new! Maybe your soil is too sandy, too much/not enough fertilizer/compost even, maybe too much clay, maybe too much or not enough right minerals/water/sun, maybe it's getting eaten by deer/pests?? It's pretty easy to figure out, actually.

Last year I had a garden that didn't have enough " plant matter" in it, and the water wouldn't hold in the soil. The answer to that was add peat moss!! OR do lots of mulching! or add compost. Plants love compost so much to grow in.
here's a good first timers website... keeps it simple.. lol http://www.urbanext.uiuc.edu/firstga...ics/index.html
post #108 of 257
Well that is great for learning to garden. Not so great for getting food,w h ich was the point of your suggestion, right? Food too expensive? Grow your own?

Last year, our garden yielded 0 vegetables. I don't know why. I didn't learn anything form it. Thankfully, we were not depending on it.
post #109 of 257
Thanks for the list Majazama. I am expecting my vegetable garden to flourish this time around and thus cut my grocery bill big time!
post #110 of 257
Due to a paycut at dh's work our already tight budget has gotten even tighter. But at least he still has a job & not laid off! So I am trying to get more creative. We've started a little garden & I'm trying to get as many good ideas as possible from this forum. I've definitely noticed over the past year every couple months certains things keep going up in .10-.20 cent increments.
post #111 of 257
We have what used to be an extremely comfortable food budget of 415/mo for a family of 5-7 based on the day. I can usually make that stretch the month but it's getting harder. Before that would feed us for a month and a half at least. We don't buy milk, juice, cereal, or eggs as we have WIC. (We don't really drink juice but I can get pineapple juice for cooking with). We limit our red meat and pork products. I can get chicken BOGO for a 4lb bag of frozen breast pieces and that lasts over a month. We use a little meat to flavor our food, it's rarely the focus. We also do not plan for left overs but when they happen we use them right away. So, the other day I made fajitas with tons of sauteed veggies. Today, we'll have the veggies and possibly a chicken breast over rice.

I buy in bulk whenever possible but we do not have any HFS out here, nor do we have produce markets. We DO have several local meat markets where I can get decent meat, when I'm out that way. If I'm not heading in that direction, I don't go. We don't have the $$ for gas to go out of the way. Usually I'm stuck with VGs, Meijer, and Kroger. Everything else is too far out and we do not have a discount grocery in the area.

Gardening is not available to us, I cannot afford the cost of the pots and soil to garden on the balcony. We are in an apartment so we don't have a yard. It's not a matter of finding a way to make it work, it's just not accessable at this time. (If I happen across some pots, I'll get the soil and we'll try it)
post #112 of 257
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Well that is great for learning to garden. Not so great for getting food,w h ich was the point of your suggestion, right? Food too expensive? Grow your own?

Last year, our garden yielded 0 vegetables. I don't know why. I didn't learn anything form it. Thankfully, we were not depending on it.
If that's what you got from her post, you missed the point. If your garden is missing something(like the ability to hold water) then you won't get veggies. If you have super sandy soil that doesn't hold water then adding peat moss will allow it to hold water & your veggies will grow.

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Gardening is not available to us, I cannot afford the cost of the pots and soil to garden on the balcony. We are in an apartment so we don't have a yard. It's not a matter of finding a way to make it work, it's just not accessable at this time. (If I happen across some pots, I'll get the soil and we'll try it)
Are there any community gardens around you? My sister paid $50 for hers, but part of that(half I believe) is a deposit & she'll get it back after the garden is done & she cleans it up. The community gardens here are $30/year(we live in a much smaller community than she does). I don't know if any of that is a deposit we get back or not. You can do small things in pots for cheap. A 5-6" pot is about $3, the dirt to fill the pot $3, package of say lettuce seeds is $2 at the most. The seeds will last quite a few plantings & you'll have extra dirt to refill as needed. The lettuce can be cut back 2-3 times after you take some. The overall cost is cheaper than buying lettuce in the store(especially in the winter months).
post #113 of 257
Yeah I got that from her every year you learn something new. That is true, and I think it is good. However, it is not helpful for someone who is gardening because they can't afford food.

Another thing is some people simply can't afford to garden, no matter how cheap it is. They may need that money to buy guaranteed food.

Oh and I still don't know what was wrong with my garden last year.

We are moving to our new house at the end of the month. I don't know if it will be too late to do much planting by the time we settle in, but I am going to try and hope that the problem was specific to our current house.

I am so lucky and blessed that food prices are not an issue and we can afford potential increases.

I hate that most people on this board cannot understand true poverty and how it is not as simple as planting a garden.
post #114 of 257
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Originally Posted by CarrieMF View Post
Are there any community gardens around you? My sister paid $50 for hers, but part of that(half I believe) is a deposit & she'll get it back after the garden is done & she cleans it up. The community gardens here are $30/year(we live in a much smaller community than she does). I don't know if any of that is a deposit we get back or not. You can do small things in pots for cheap. A 5-6" pot is about $3, the dirt to fill the pot $3, package of say lettuce seeds is $2 at the most. The seeds will last quite a few plantings & you'll have extra dirt to refill as needed. The lettuce can be cut back 2-3 times after you take some. The overall cost is cheaper than buying lettuce in the store(especially in the winter months).
No community gardens, bummer. I can get seeds with FS, and if I can find the pots we'll try it. We've had mixed success with gardening in the past, mostly due to little boys who are so excited when the plants flower.
post #115 of 257
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I hate that most people on this board cannot understand true poverty and how it is not as simple as planting a garden.
WOW! I think that's a little harsh! I don't post often but I lurk & don't have that feeling at all! Also you really don't know anything about most of the people on this board & their real situation. I understand that some people can't or don't want to garden. Also I know a garden isn't a cure all to serious poverty. But I don't understand how you are so against just the suggestion of a garden as possibly saving money. Obviously you don't think gardening is a good option. Fine... But I know my $1 packet of lettuce seeds has produced at least $20+ of salad greens & is still going strong.
post #116 of 257
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Originally Posted by Audra View Post
. Fine... But I know my $1 packet of lettuce seeds has produced at least $20+ of salad greens & is still going strong.

I'm glad it’s working out for you, but personally I had so much money go down the drain because my garden just failed to produce. My plants had enough water, food, etc, but the only thing I got was arugula that was eaten in two days. I think the problem is not enough sun in my yard. That area points to the east so it only gets a few hours of sun in the morning. The Redwood trees next door, our house and other houses block the sun for the rest of the day. The front yard is a big slope/hill so that doesn’t work either.
post #117 of 257
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Originally Posted by Audra View Post
WOW! I think that's a little harsh! I don't post often but I lurk & don't have that feeling at all! Also you really don't know anything about most of the people on this board & their real situation. I understand that some people can't or don't want to garden. Also I know a garden isn't a cure all to serious poverty. But I don't understand how you are so against just the suggestion of a garden as possibly saving money. Obviously you don't think gardening is a good option. Fine... But I know my $1 packet of lettuce seeds has produced at least $20+ of salad greens & is still going strong.
You have clearly misread my posts.

I am not against the suggestion. For some people, it is a great suggestion. I think gardening is a great option *for some people* I garden myself. While it definitely has the potential to save money. If your garden doesn't produce, then you are out that money, and those few dollars make a serious difference for some people.

Some people don't have the space and no community gardens to use. Some people don't have the knowledge. Some people cannot afford the upfront costs, as small as they may be. If the choice is eating that week or buying garden supplies to hopefully eat for free later, people need to eat. Some people work 12-16 hours a day and simply don't have the time or energy.

People need to look beyond their own experiences to know that what works for them is not going to work for everyone, and we need more encompassing solutions to the food problems that we are facing.
post #118 of 257
I think that nothing makes more sense than finding a way to grow your own food.

Where there's a will there's a way. We always make things that are very important to us happen.

I really think that food costs are going to continue rising. People should do whatever they can to start learning to garden because we have the coming years to consider as well.

And yes I realize that for a very small fraction of people there really isn't ANY way to make it work.

I think that people need to realize how important knowing how to garden is going to be. If food is too expensive this year then what will they do next year when the prices will surely be higher???

and we are poor. So please don't pull the "You don't understand poverty" cr*p because we most certainly do. That is exactly why we are taking this so seriously in my household.
post #119 of 257
I really truly understand that some people can't grow a garden for various reasons. Or even just don't want to & feel their time, effort, money etc. is better spent on different aspects of saving on food costs. There are so many different & good ideas on this forum as to how to save & that's just one option. You have to do what's right for you & your family. It just seemed like a few people were getting offended that someone would suggest gardening as a possiblity. It's just an idea among many, that's all.
post #120 of 257
I agree it is important if one can do it.

Having grown up poor, volunteered with anti poverty groups, it is not crap that a lot of people don't understand poverty on this board. Some people are so poor that they cannot even afford the one dollar for a packet of seeds, not to mention everything else needed for gardening.

Perhaps people should start a gardening help organization for people in need.
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