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post #1 of 8
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My DD is now 6wks. We've been battling nipple confusion since we finally brought her home after 5 days in NICU, but I thought our troubles were managable until today. We've not had huge leaps in weight gain, and lately it's been bothering me a bit. Nursing sessions are about 2-3 hours apart, but only 5 minutes long or so. Lately she's even been pulling off and screaming at me just a few minutes after let down. I've been assuming that she's done, but today I realized it's only that she's suddenly getting confused about the nipple in her mouth halfway through nursing. If I keep my finger in there the whole time, she'll suck for a good 20 minutes. The implication here, is that she's not actually nursing tilll she's full. No wonder her weight gain has really been slow.

Our confusion is not with the proper latch, or how to hold the nipple in her mouth. The trouble is that she can't sense, or forgets, that there is breast tissue in her mouth at all. She won't suck it into her mouth, or clamp down on it. About 50% of the time in the past she's needed my pinky in her mouth for the cue that there is breast tissue there to suck on at all, but generally I can remove it after 3 or 4 good sucks and she's off and running. Things seem to be deteriorating now, however. Tonight she refused to nurse at all on the right side unless I kept my pinky there-but did seem to get a usual amount of milk based on the swallowing I was hearing.

The problem is the binky. What she loves about her pacifier (introduced in NICU and further encouraged by me once we got home) is that it's firm in her mouth and she can always feel it in there. I know the tounge is in the proper location and massaging the breast tissue properly, because i can feel it when she's doing the same thing against my pinky while nursing. But I can't imagine we'll get proper nipple stim if I keep my pinky there the whole time.

Clearly, I've GOT to ditch this pacifer. It's not gonna be fun around here while we break this habit. What can I do to help her soothe if she doesn't have it? She actively fights the breast half the time, so that's not gonna cut it! Has anyone else run across this particular issue with nipple confusion? For those of you who had to break the binky habit-give me advice! I'm beside myself that I've basically half starved my baby for the first 6 weeks of life!
post #2 of 8
perhaps breast compressions to help her get milk when she forgets to nurse. the quirt of milk will get her moving again. As for the binky, it would be much easier to rid yourself of it now, versus when she is a toddler.

I would look into finding a good breastfeeding support meeting.
post #3 of 8
A lot of times the pulling off and screaming after let down indicated a forceful let down and if she is only nursing until that point weight gain would be slow.

Use your finger instead of the pacifier. My DD likes it when my finger nail is on her tongue.
post #4 of 8
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Originally Posted by nevaehsmommy View Post
perhaps breast compressions to help her get milk when she forgets to nurse. the squirt of milk will get her moving again.
I was going to suggest the same.
post #5 of 8
What about a nipple shield? We just started using one because ds has the same problem (among several). He can suck a firm nipple like a bottle or pacifier, but my nipples are too soft and large for him to maintain good suction.
post #6 of 8
I second the nipple shield suggestion. We used one (also an early baby, but a short NICU stay) for maybe 3 months with great success. They can feel it in their mouths, so remember to keep sucking - it supposedly touches their palate so triggers the suck reflex. Almost all babies can be weaned off of them when they're ready. For us it took about a week once we were ready to try.

It was a lifesaver for us... If you do try one - I would suggest the Medela contact shield, much thinner than the regular ones. And have someone show you how to use it.
post #7 of 8
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I've been tempted by the nip shield... but the LC I spoke with recently said she didn't recommend it yet. She did say that a pinky in the mouth wasn't really any better than a pacifer in this case, so I've got to work really hard at not giving her ANYTHING but a boob in the mouth.

I got a clear weight measurement today at our 6 wk check up-it seems she's up more than I thought she would be at almost an ounce a day. Perhaps I'm freaking out a little more quickly than I should be.

Today has been pretty good so far. We are in the process of gathering up all the binkies to chuck em in the can. It's hard though! I think they are as important to me as to her! They represent a way I KNOW I can soothe her... and now I'm tossing that out. GULP!

We've cheated a few times with a pinky or a really soft binky (it's even softer than my pinky) but overall, she's already latching on well. We've only had two times when she wouldn't latch on at all. I'm sure we'll have days when it will be worse, but I'm trying to spend as much time as possible topless. I even mastered (at least for a bit) nursing in the sling.

Another tip the LC gave me that seemed to help-at least a few times, was latching on asymetrically. She said to pull my nipple upwards until it pointed at the sky by putting a finger at the top of the areola. It's supposed to help keep it bumping against the palate further. apparently it's okay to be pretty extreme about it-she's even seen moms who almost fold their nip in half to keep it pointing against the roof of the mouth.

Thanks so much for your replies. I'm not feeling quite as panicked today as I was yesterday evening.
post #8 of 8
BTW - Love your 'name' - DH is Peruvian and I love alpacas!

I'm so glad today is going better - it's nice to know the NS is there if you need it. Good luck on latching - the Jack Newman website has good video of the asymmetrical latch. I found them helpful when we were weaning off the NS.

Once latching is well established, pacis aren't so bad (for us anyway!). But, we made sure to have nursing going well before we gave her one...
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