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post #21 of 41
Grrrrrr . . .

I actually wondered if I had somehow been overly sensitive and somehow "imagined" that they had been badgering ME at the time of my Now-Circed-Five-Year-Old having been newly born!

I DID yell at them that I didn't want to circ. Numerous Times. But x-dh "insisted".

ByTheWay: Congratulations On The Birth Of Your Son!
post #22 of 41
Who the heck could take a knife to something that cute, sweet, innocent and peaceful? GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

post #23 of 41
I also find it amazing how doctors can push aside compassion and common sense to cut into the flesh of a beautiful new born Babe.
post #24 of 41
Just wanted to say I think this occurs in lots of hospital situations...I mean beyond circ. That's why there are so many medical mistakes. Docs, nurses, tech, etc, don't take the time to read through the charts.
post #25 of 41
Thread Starter 
Wow Jennie! It would have been great to have a few of those things you had for your 2nd ds's birth! Of course, we were *planning* a homebirth, so I didn't expect all this... And yes that mag sulfate is evil evil evil. I feel SO sorry for women who have to be on it to stop pre-term labor and are on it for days, weeks, months... the hot flashes, headache, and feeling like I had the flu (complete with vomiting, and feeling like my muscles were play-do) were the worst.

Thank you for the compliment on Orion He looks like his daddy, with my nose!

The hospital was Kaiser, in Walnut Creek Ca. for anyone who wants to write. I will get a letter together, but it will take awhile I'm sure, my time is pretty much taken up with Orion, and when he's asleep I have to weigh my options (eat, sleep, do dishes, ect)... but I will write something out as soon as I can, and I'll post it here for you all to see I'll cross post to FYT then Lauren.

Aloe, I do think it was simply not looking at my chart as well. Which I could understand with the couple of nurses who were just 'making conversation' with me about it. But for the person who schedules the circ? And *especially* for the doctor or whoever it was who was coming to take Orion for it? Totally no excuse.
post #26 of 41

Scroll down to State Medical Boards.

Solicitation for surgery and promotion of unnecessary circumcision should be reported to the State Medical Boards.
post #27 of 41
Thread Starter 
Thank you Gitti, I will certainly CC them when I get my letter written.
post #28 of 41
Originally posted by Nathan1097's 1 Day Old Pictures 005.jpg

T Oh wow! What a doll! Is that Orion, Lisa?

Ds is sitting here on my lap, he just pointed out the baby's eyes, nose, and mouth, then started smothering the monitor with kisses! Then he insisted on me giving the baby a kiss, too!

What a sweetie....he's gonna be a good big brother!

And Orion is such a sweetie, too! Totally deserves to be smothered with kisses!
post #29 of 41
Thread Starter 
Awwwww Sarah! That must have been too cute to see! Your ds is gonna be a great big brother!

Yup that's my little Orion! I've got more piccies of him on my sig too (no no, I'm not the totally proud mama or anything! :LOL This little guy is 3 weeks old and I've already got about 8 scrapbook pages filled!)
post #30 of 41
I can't believe anymore that all of these solicitations are accidental.
The same thing happened to my friend about circing but they made it out of there intact.
However, after she repeatedly refused Vitamin K shot, they waited til she was asleep and guilted her husband into doing it.
She was NOT happy.
post #31 of 41
Makes me glad I had girls!!
post #32 of 41

Same scenario

My first son was circ'ed without my permission, my mother consented because I was under age, however had I been knowledgable I would have left him whole.

My 2nd son, graciasly born at home, circ'ing wasn't even mentioned. I was criticized by my family afterward, but they just figured since he was born at home it wasn't possible to circ him, so they dropped the subject.
post #33 of 41
When I had ds, I had made a birth plan saying no circumcision. After he was born and they put him in the bassinett, they asked me if he was being circumcised and when I said no they stuck a sticker on his bassinett that said "NO". I didn't have anyone push me to circumcise him after that. It was a big decision for us. I am very upset that they would treat you and your son that way. I'm thankful that you were able to stop them from taking him away. I would definately write a letter to them. Congrats on the new little boy!

Megan 8.10.99
Jacob 10.22.01 Intact
post #34 of 41
Sort of OT, but kind of in-line: After Will was born, I "had" to stay in hospital for three days (he was still in NICU, so rather than check myself out then commute, I just followed hospital procedure and stayed until he was released). So the nurses would bring pills in the morning and evening - pills that the doctor had ordered (pre-natals and I don't know what else, occasionally pain pills).

When the first nurse brought all these pills for me to swallow, I told her I couldn't pills - never had been able to, probably never will. She said fine, she'd mark it on my chart, and could my husband bring my pre-natals from home. Sure could.

Imagine my surprise (and irritation) when the pills appeared in the evening. I refused them again, again telling the nurse I couldn't swallow pills. Same routine the next two days. Finally, the last day of my hospital stay, a nurse came back on duty who I'd seen before. She brought me my pills and asked if I'd like to "try a little harder this time - the doctor doesn't like it if you don't take your pills"!!

I told her (not very pleasantly - I was quite tired and just wanted to GTHO) that I didn't give a fig if the doctor liked it or not - I hadn't swallowed a pill in 23 years, and I highly doubted that I would magically be able to swallow these, even if I 'tried a little harder'. I also told her not to come back in my room.

Last month, I went to look at my hospital records and just out of curiosity, I looked at the nursing notes. Not one of those nurses had noted that I can't swallow pills! Every single one of them wrote "PT refused". Hello!! I refused for a reason, not just b/c I was having a tantrum! I'm in the process of making sure the hospital is NOT reimbursed for all those pills that I didn't take. I sincerely hope they take the cost out of the nurses' paychecks. All it would have taken was for ONE of them to note "PT cannot swallow pills", but no one did. They even brought me pain pills, which I had to chew up and swallow. Let me tell you, most pain pills do not taste good. A lot of them make me gag - not fun when recovering from a c/s.

So the point of this long, OT story is that I understand your frustration (I realize swallowing pills is not the same as circumcision, but YKWIM). Even if their repeated offering of the circumcision was completely innocent, it's still carelessness - read the #($*# chart, already!

Congratulations on your new (intact) son, Lisa!
post #35 of 41
Congrats on your new son Lisa!!

How horrid that they asked 6 times!!! I am so glad you are going to write a letter. I do not think it is accidental either. Its probably enough to pressure a mom who is waivering about it. ARGG!

With my son they didnt ask me to sign any papers.....right when he was born and they took him over to do the foot print, etc etc I kept saying "dont circ him" LOL I was paranoid they would do it right then and there. She said "we wont!" They did do the VIT K and the eye goop even though my plan said NO and I was irritated! But I asked to go home when he was 12 hours old and they let me, they just had the ped come pop his head in our room (I didnt let him out of my room up until that point) and said "you want me to circ him before you go?" I said NO! Then right after that they said to discharge him he had to go be weighed bla bla bla, so I did let him go then but I said "if you CIRC him I will sue you!" LOL He is intact.
post #36 of 41
Every time I hear stories like this I'm happier than ever with the hospital I birthed at. At one pre-natal visit a nurse asked if we were planning to circ. We said no and her response "good for you."
At the birth classes given by the hospital we learned the procedure was no longer done in the hospital -- you had to schedule with you pediatrion for an office visit later if you wanted it done. And they showed pictures of the procudre and recovery that fully convinced my husband that we wern't going to do that to our baby.
I didn't like everything about the hospital but they never mentioned circ at all and even the on call delivery doctor read the birth plan and was very repectful when talking to us about procedures and things he felt were necessary.
post #37 of 41
So glad that my three sons were born at home.
post #38 of 41
Thread Starter 
Originally posted by applejuice
So glad that my three sons were born at home.
Wish my one had been. Hopefully the next one will be...
post #39 of 41
I was VERY drugged up for 99% of my stay at the hospital (mag sulfate) and it made things very very fuzzy.
And you still managed to ward off the vultures? Congratulations! You are so strong! What a lucky baby to have such a wonderful mommy!

Happy letter writing. You've already proven your strength and determination to protect your son, now it's time to fix the problem for other little boys. =)
post #40 of 41

Re: Geeeez! *How* many times did I say we WEREN'T circumcising?!

Originally posted by Lisa_Lynn

Later that evening Nurse *4* asks if he's being snipped the next day. OMG come ON people, that's SIX people asking about circ'ing my son, five of them AFTER it should have been clear from one of our charts that no way was this happening!
I hope you made a complaint to the hospital about this. That is just unacceptable.
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