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post #21 of 39
5/21/08 at 5:48pm
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Originally Posted by fullofquestions View Post
I think she was nurse bc she was in scrubs. She took my sisters blood and did a blood pressure on her. She was in the lab not in an OB's office though.

Even if she was a tech though. This is the biggest maternity hospital in the area.
She could have been a medical assistant. They can have some formal training, or none at all other than what the dr. they work for teaches them.
Just about all heath care workers wear scrubs. I really wish there was a way to differentiate nurses other than by name tag. (many dont wear them, or turn them around) I hate how nurses always get a bad rap, when many times it wasn't even a nurse being discussed, they just appeared to be a nurse. (facilities love this, they have the public believing nurses with degrees are caring for them, when in reality the care givers may have very little or no training)

Many medical assistants call themselves nurses, but if you ask them what type of nurse they are, an LPN or RN, they stumble, and say they are a MA but can do many things that nurses do. (which is true, but only when talking about an office setting, as nurses can work in many other area's than offices)

If this was an actual LPN or RN, I would be very curious as to know what program the attended. I was in both an LPN and an RN program, and Lactation was discussed and we were tested on it.

Rant over.

Whatever their title is, they obviously need a bit of education and should not be working in an OB clinic without at least some basic info. I would talk to the OB next time about it. Not to get her into trouble, but to prevent false information being given out and bfing being sabotaged. Some people take info given by health care workers as gold, and do not research anything themselves. Those people do deserve a little bit of protection from workers like this.

I just noticed she was in the lab. Normally, nurses do not work in labs.
post #22 of 39
5/21/08 at 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by sapphire_chan View Post
They might have really forgotten. They all have to take algebra too and the nursing students in my chemistry class couldn't remember how to find x in a problem like 25=x+17. (And they'd had algebra like 3 months earlier.)
Whaaaa? :
post #23 of 39
5/21/08 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by anne1140 View Post
Whaaaa? :
I figured it was because they had a ton of stuff to memorize, most of them had these anatomy coloring books where they had to like draw in all the major veins and arteries and name them and stuff. Anyway, if breastfeeding information isn't covered every single year in nursing school, I really wouldn't be surprised if they really did forget it. Still wrong in an OB office, but as someone else said, maybe she was a temp?
post #24 of 39
5/21/08 at 9:38pm
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Good job! Nursing in front of people, speaking up for it, and passing out info! You rock. Every opportunity for education is great -- every chance to get the message out could make a difference. Especially someone who interacts with pregnant women! Yay!
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I think she was nurse bc she was in scrubs. She took my sisters blood and did a blood pressure on her. She was in the lab not in an OB's office though.
Everyone at the office I go to wears scrubs- even transport and housekeeping. It sounds like this is a lab tech, which means she probably didn't get lactation information in school. But you educated her and that's great!!
post #25 of 39
5/21/08 at 9:48pm
When I had my hysterectomy, a gal came in the room and was giving an ultrasound to the lady in the bed next to me. She had her gall bladder removed and was not able to urinate yet. So they kept her over night, the '"nurse" was measuring the size of the bladder to determine if a catheter was needed.

Anyway so I was talking with her later, and I noticed she was just a CNA. In Missouri that is a 6 week course. Yet they were letting her do pretty medical stuff.(beyond emptying bed pans, and giving baths, I am a CNA and I was told if it had to plugged in leave it alone)

Her tag was indeed turned around backwards. She was in scrubs, the only reason I evened questioned how long she had been a nurse was how young she looked. Tags ought to be clearly visible, it is difficult to ask a nurse if they are a nurse or a CNA with out sounding like a wouse. I want the best care not an impersonator
post #26 of 39
5/21/08 at 10:28pm
Yikes!! Everywhere I go I feel affirmation for choosing a birth center instead of an ob!
post #27 of 39
5/21/08 at 10:31pm
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Originally Posted by nevaehsmommy View Post
When I had my hysterectomy, a gal came in the room and was giving an ultrasound to the lady in the bed next to me. She had her gall bladder removed and was not able to urinate yet. So they kept her over night, the '"nurse" was measuring the size of the bladder to determine if a catheter was needed.

Anyway so I was talking with her later, and I noticed she was just a CNA. In Missouri that is a 6 week course. Yet they were letting her do pretty medical stuff.(beyond emptying bed pans, and giving baths, I am a CNA and I was told if it had to plugged in leave it alone)

Her tag was indeed turned around backwards. She was in scrubs, the only reason I evened questioned how long she had been a nurse was how young she looked. Tags ought to be clearly visible, it is difficult to ask a nurse if they are a nurse or a CNA with out sounding like a wouse. I want the best care not an impersonator
Thats EXACTLY the crap I was talking about above.
post #28 of 39
5/21/08 at 10:36pm
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Originally Posted by sapphire_chan View Post
They might have really forgotten. They all have to take algebra too and the nursing students in my chemistry class couldn't remember how to find x in a problem like 25=x+17. (And they'd had algebra like 3 months earlier.)
is the answer x=8??


I think EVERYONE should know that yout milk just doesn't 'dry-up' after a few weeks. Not just medical people.
post #29 of 39
5/22/08 at 12:10am
My mother in law (RN) has never understood bfdg at ALL. She never nursed, no one in her family nursed ONCE, and she really didn't think I would make it to a year. I didn't register for bottles, and she said "you'll have to give THAT baby bottles sometime!", and when I said "yes, but not necessarily with formula", she was SO confused.

They really don't teach health care workers anything about bfdg. So sad.

Not to be cynical, but doctors make more money off of sick babies, right? Add to that society's health care being reactive instead of proactive, and that bfdg would (statistically) solve so many health problems...it really is tragic that health care workers know so very little about something so very fundamental.

Stepping off soapbox...
post #30 of 39
5/22/08 at 5:00am
When I was newly pregnant with my first the OB nurse asked me if I was going to breastfeed when she was gathering my information. I hadn't looked into it at all yet so I said "I'm not sure" She had the perfect opportunity to educate me about it and she said nothing.

She did lecture me for quite awhile on the benefits of having an HIV test. I had to sign a waiver refusing it.
post #31 of 39
5/22/08 at 9:36am
Slight OT but I was told if I refused the HIV test they would not allow me to nurse my child. They would hot line me (should I try) and test my placenta with out my permission. "for the health and welfare of the baby"

so much for informed consent
post #32 of 39
5/22/08 at 10:06am
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Originally Posted by nevaehsmommy View Post
Slight OT but I was told if I refused the HIV test they would not allow me to nurse my child. They would hot line me (should I try) and test my placenta with out my permission. "for the health and welfare of the baby"

so much for informed consent
post #33 of 39
5/22/08 at 10:53am
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Originally Posted by GooeyRN View Post
Many medical assistants call themselves nurses, but if you ask them what type of nurse they are, an LPN or RN, they stumble, and say they are a MA but can do many things that nurses do. (which is true, but only when talking about an office setting, as nurses can work in many other area's than offices)

If this was an actual LPN or RN, I would be very curious as to know what program the attended. I was in both an LPN and an RN program, and Lactation was discussed and we were tested on it.

Rant over.

Whatever their title is, they obviously need a bit of education and should not be working in an OB clinic without at least some basic info. I would talk to the OB next time about it. Not to get her into trouble, but to prevent false information being given out and bfing being sabotaged. Some people take info given by health care workers as gold, and do not research anything themselves. Those people do deserve a little bit of protection from workers like this.

I just noticed she was in the lab. Normally, nurses do not work in labs.
BINGO! Yes I was tested on it! And I passed..haha! And when I worked as a L&D RN the nurses wore surgical green scrubs and the techs and aides wore blue to tell them apart and they had name tags SEWN into the scrubs so you had to see their name and title. Now I work in a OB clinic and my OB only ALLOWS nurses and MAs to wear scrubs, the gals at the front wear nice office clothes. We also have to take as part of our medical training a class in breast feeding awareness to work in his clinic. My OB and his wife (who is also an Ob and runs a LLL) are huge pro-breast feeding people. There are no formula hand outs, only breast feeding posters and he has a huge list of area places where moms can get help with breast feeding. We also have lactation rooms and breast feeding magazines in the waiting room (that was my idea..haha!) I just think you should make your doc aware of the situation at hand like Gooey said.
post #34 of 39
5/22/08 at 12:53pm
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Originally Posted by mytwogirls View Post
BINGO! Yes I was tested on it! And I passed..haha! And when I worked as a L&D RN the nurses wore surgical green scrubs and the techs and aides wore blue to tell them apart and they had name tags SEWN into the scrubs so you had to see their name and title. Now I work in a OB clinic and my OB only ALLOWS nurses and MAs to wear scrubs, the gals at the front wear nice office clothes. We also have to take as part of our medical training a class in breast feeding awareness to work in his clinic. My OB and his wife (who is also an Ob and runs a LLL) are huge pro-breast feeding people. There are no formula hand outs, only breast feeding posters and he has a huge list of area places where moms can get help with breast feeding. We also have lactation rooms and breast feeding magazines in the waiting room (that was my idea..haha!) I just think you should make your doc aware of the situation at hand like Gooey said.
Wow you're OB sounds great! What a great place to work for!
post #35 of 39
5/22/08 at 12:59pm
My PEDIATRICIAN with dd1 told me that I shoudl start giving her whole milk at 12 months because I would dry up soon.

Obviously I left him... but I would have liked to see his face when I was still nursing dd1 at 4 years and had been tandem nursing for 10 months...
post #36 of 39
5/22/08 at 1:53pm
My sister is an RN (no kids though) and was very puzzled as to why I would nurse my baby.
post #37 of 39
5/22/08 at 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by MommytoTwo View Post
My sister is an RN (no kids though) and was very puzzled as to why I would nurse my baby.
Oh my goodness! It is people like that who just give us good RNs a bad wrap. Grrrrrrr!!!!!

Belle He is a great person to know and his wife is just as great. She cut her hours back so she could spend more time at home with her two year old and four year old (and is still nursing both!) I also know of two other OBs in the area who are very similar in practice as these two and it is hard to get a job to work there because the staff just loves them. And it is without saying the pregnant mommies love them too! I LOVE MY JOB
post #38 of 39
5/22/08 at 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by Ruthla View Post
If she took blood then she must at least have phlebotomy training- which is something like a 6m course?
Phlebotomist is an entry level position at many hospitals : with very minimal training, like hours instead of months.
post #39 of 39
5/22/08 at 7:42pm
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Originally Posted by Ziggysmama View Post
is the answer x=8??


I think EVERYONE should know that yout milk just doesn't 'dry-up' after a few weeks. Not just medical people.
Agreed.
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