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post #21 of 112
Not in second grade. I've taught second grade, so I have some idea of the maturity level of kids that age. I think it's a bit young. Fourth, maybe fifth grade, is when I'd start talking about it with mine. If it was me, though, I would just keep him home that day.

I think kids have enough to worry about. I'm all for sex education, HIV education, any kind of education as long as it's accurate, truthful, and age-appropriate. But I think second grade is too young for this particular one.

I must say, though, that anti-smoking education is something I'd wholeheartedly support, starting WAY younger than 7!
post #22 of 112
Thread Starter 
Okay, the name of the movie is " Thumbs Up: Aids Education". I am going to go look for it now.

And I misunderstood the dates. They are showing it next week, but the form had to be in today.
post #23 of 112
I found this, OP http://outlet.discoveryeducation.com/product/show/32952

It sounds like it's mostly about it being safe to play/be around people who are HIV+
post #24 of 112
From the description, it sounds perfectly appropriate.
I'm all for making an informed decision.
post #25 of 112
I wouldn't allow it until I had seen the movie myself.
post #26 of 112
See, this is the problem with assuming that HIV ed means talking about sex.

I'm going to bet that it's probably not even mentioned, or peripherally so.

Sometimes we have to take a step back and not assume that health education is not like what we remember (because I bet most of us here got squat until preteen age, which is a different stage).

Just like "sexuality education" for 5-6 year olds doesn't involve watching a porn movie and is more focused on accurate names for body parts, safe touches and reinforcing the child's right to tell about an adult that makes her uncomfortable, and how different families are made (well, OK, I get that some people probably wouldn't want their kids exposed to same-sex parent families)...I'm going to guess that probably the film will be about basic blood safety without being scared to death of everything, and not about Steve and Bill go barebacking.

OP, I really hope you see the film. Why on earth would you sign that sheet if you were really concerned about misinformation and/or inappropriateness? You could be doing someone a favor if you find inaccurate information, and at least then you could be put at ease or at least would have some concise points about how "crazy" it is so you could get other parents on your side.

If you just give up to not make waves, then personally I don't see the point of complaining about the school.
post #27 of 112
How do you feel about your child's teacher and the administrators in the school? I trust my daughter's teacher and principal to only show appropriate movies and I'd allow it if they felt it was appropriate. But if I didn't trust them I'd at least want to watch it first. If I didn't trust them, a short movie on one day wouldn't be my biggest concern either.
post #28 of 112
Thread Starter 
Tigerchild - I am very interested in your point of view. I posted this question because i wanted to hear other opinions different from my own to help me decide. However, I don't understand why you keep misinterpreting the things I have written.

I never said anything about sex. You actually seem to be focusing on it.
I never said anything about misinformation and I certainly did not sign the sheet because I am afraid of making waves. I explained why I signed it.

Anyhow, when my son joined Boy Scouts, I had a similar issue with the pull out in the scout guide that dealt with abuse.

I don't want my son to worry. That's pretty much it. Sorry if I wasn't making myself clear.

Crazy.
post #29 of 112
I'm glad you ended up saying yes.

My daughter (5.5) and I have been really into the musical, Rent, and listening to the soundtrack and watching both the movie and the live performance, we've talked a lot about HIV/AIDS. She is not scared about it, but she is becoming informed and I think that's great!

Personally, I'd not trust a school to present accurate info, so while I'd absolutely allow my child to attend the movie, I would ask to see it so that we could discuss any discrepancies.
post #30 of 112
I don't know if this is part of your state curriculum for AIDS/HIV education, but I know that my state (NY) has such a curriculum, and it really is very age appropriate - at least, so far. In K it was part of a wider "staying healthy" unit. They talked about handwashing and good hygeine, brought up the terms AIDS and HIV and talked about how you couldn't get them just by touching a person or being their friend. Very straightforward. Certainly not putting rubber on bananas or anything that people seem to be imagining.
post #31 of 112
I would have no problem with it. I think it's best to get to these serious issues before they're at a more jaded age where they're more likely to laugh and joke during the movie than pay attention. I saw a movie about train safety in 2nd grade and to this day will not walk on train tracks, even if they're out of use. If I'd have seen it when I was 12, I probably would've completely ignored it. Not equating trains to AIDS, just making the point that little minds are more receptive.
post #32 of 112
I wouldn't have a problem with it. I lost a friend to AIDS when I was in 2nd grade.
post #33 of 112
I have worked with HIV positive 2nd graders. I absolutely think the topic is relevant and can be handled in an age-appropriate way.

My mom is another old-school MD who was one of the first ID specialists working with AIDS in the 1980s. So I grew up receiving a lot of information. There is still a lot of misinformation about the disease, and I think talking to second graders about how AIDS is *not* spread is one good way to deal with some of the misperceptions out there.
post #34 of 112
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I have worked with HIV positive 2nd graders. I absolutely think the topic is relevant and can be handled in an age-appropriate way.

My mom is another old-school MD who was one of the first ID specialists working with AIDS in the 1980s. So I grew up receiving a lot of information. There is still a lot of misinformation about the disease, and I think talking to second graders about how AIDS is *not* spread is one good way to deal with some of the misperceptions out there.

Very good point.
post #35 of 112
I would see the movie first. If they talk about sexual transmission a lot, i wouldn't let them see it. as 2nd grade is 7 and 8 years old. Hm..thats a tough one.
post #36 of 112
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Originally Posted by stik View Post
I have worked with HIV positive 2nd graders. I absolutely think the topic is relevant and can be handled in an age-appropriate way.

My mom is another old-school MD who was one of the first ID specialists working with AIDS in the 1980s. So I grew up receiving a lot of information. There is still a lot of misinformation about the disease, and I think talking to second graders about how AIDS is *not* spread is one good way to deal with some of the misperceptions out there.
ITA!

I would def allow dd to see this and would watch it myself and follow up with a conversation between us. I want my dd to interface with her world and I see myself as a loving guide for her to do that.

What I remember about HIV education growing up is that it was offered only as a part of sex edu and was offered too late imo.. I feel grateful that this important issue is being considered in a more broad format and for a younger audience. I think kiddos can handle more than we sometimes give them credit for. This is coming from a woman who used to travel around to schools and offer relationship and dating wksps that focused on respect and peaceful communication.
post #37 of 112
I would let my child watch it.

I think that education is a good thing.
post #38 of 112
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Originally Posted by savithny View Post
Certainly not putting rubber on bananas or anything that people seem to be imagining.
Where on this thread has anyone said anything like that?


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post #39 of 112
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Originally Posted by Tigerchild View Post
I'm going to guess that probably the film will be about basic blood safety without being scared to death of everything, and not about Steve and Bill go barebacking.
post #40 of 112
Isnt grade 2 mainly 7 year olds? Anyway, I also question why kids that young need to know about HIV/AIDS. I think I would refuse since it was sprung at the last minute without parents being able to screen it first. I would have thought that would be more appropriate when they are teenagers and learning about sex education in school.
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